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What's so tasty about my tattoos all of a sudden ?

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  1. Bedbug_Undertaker

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    Having hosted many times over the last 3 years I have noticed that over the last 7 weeks ( yes I know a very long stint) that the bed bugs are finding the skin around my tattoos more tasty than anywhere else. This is something new.
    I spend a lot of money on my ink, and as much as I find it attractive I can't understand why the sudden attraction for the bed bugs.
    At first I thought it was because two of them are quite new then yesterday I noticed they had bitten around two I have had for a little over 22 years. So, this discounted this theory.
    On one occasion I actually had a bite on the tattoo itself, this was one of my oldest tattoos, 26 years old.
    Any ideas from you scientific types on here ?

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    I have noticed the same with my tattoos. I didn't notice it in the beginning, their attachment to biting me around my tattoos but they are doing it now.

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    Hi,

    I nominate Bedbug_Undertaker for an arena trial next time we have the chance.

    I will take a few non fed bedbugs and let them settle on you to see if they go for the tattoo'd skin rather than the non inked parts of exposed skin.

    I would offer to do a replicate with mine but my tattoo is in the kind of place I cant post pictures online, well not to a polite forum like this and I cant use Harris as a stand in on this occasion (apologies to those who have not met or seen Harris yet, I will bring to New Orleans).

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    David

    as you know I'd be happy to do an arena trial on this one, once this round of hosting is over and I am bite free . But in the meantime I have uploaded some pictures of the bites close to my tattoo's . Like you I have some in places which I wouldn't want the world and his dog to view ( you didn't know about them did you?), soI have only taken photo's of the more respectably placed tattoos and bites.
    They are on my flickr account so folks will need to be signed into yahoo ( I think ) to be able to see them although it does state they are open to public viewing .

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/bedbug_undertaker/sets/72157627780080476/

    As for Harris what a gent he escorted me to the Vatican bless him !

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    Harris???

    I started and run the site but am "not an expert."
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    Man, I don't know how you do what you do, but good for you that you can. I don't mean to threadjack, but just out of curiosity, how often (if ever) do you actually see bugs when you host?

    -rs1971

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    Nobugsonme

    Harris is a very valued member of our team am sure David will introduce him to you sometime.

    rs1971, I see them regularly when I'm hosting, more often than not when they are heading towards me all hungry and ready to feed and, quite often the more sneakier ones I spot straight after I've felt them bite me and they are scurrying away, those I usually take great pleasure in squashing the life out of a case of it's my blood and they're not keeping it ....

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    Ok,

    I'm new. So, does a host go into a house for a few days to see if there are BBs? To serve as a lure? ARe you videotaped?

    I was surprised that you sometimes catch them right after they bite. I thought we didn't feel them. But, if you are awake and alert (not sleep deprived), you might feel it, right?

    Another odd question, do you wear shoes when not in bed? I tend to go barefoot so I come home, take off the shoes and packtite them, and then go shower and put on clean clothes. I keep on wondering if they are likely to eat the feet first...so I should have shoes on when heading to the shower.

    Interesting about the tatoos. The only tatoos I have are from radiation (they tatoo you to know where to beam the laser or whatever it is in).

    Lou Sorkin has a birthmark on his arm and I remember watching a video where they really liked that area. It kind of grossed me out...since i have several small birthmarks all over..but also on the arm.

    I'll have to read your other posts. Will you write a Stephen King like novel on your experiences?

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    BB Undertaker

    Really cool user name... BTW

    Just wild speculation... but do you think BBs might be mistaking the ink for a visual indication of an underlying vein.

    I appreciate that BBs sense heat... but not sure if they actually "look" for veins under the skin.

    Just curious... Does acting as the world's best active BB monitor pay well?

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    Bedbug_Undertaker - 15 hours ago  » 
    Nobugsonme
    Harris is a very valued member of our team am sure David will introduce him to you sometime.

    Thanks, Sparks -- David has now enlightened me.

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    Ok,

    I admit it. I am fascinated by this post and have a ton of questions. Just say no idea if you don't know or don't want to say.

    1. Do you sleep on white sheets?
    2. This is odd question, but I thought that BBs began "fecaling" and maybe even shedding skins RIGHT after a feed (not like 10 minutes later). So, do you have to wash the sheets every day in a really infested house?
    3. Do you take iron (I think David Cain said something about that)?
    4. Do you read in bed, watch tv, etc.? Do you monitor whether the items get infested? (book, tv, alarm clock, etc)? I just read Patrick's post on dispersal under Chicago 2011 and found it fascinating.
    5. Is someone videotaping you to watch where the little guys are coming from?
    6. Can you see nymphs or do you need a loup or magnifying glass?
    7. Do you feel them crawling on you? You said you sometimes feel them biting you and that threw me off?
    8. Where is the oddest place you've hosted? (probably can't answer but I'm getting a haunted hotel vibe in Transylvania or something...)
    9. Do you go somewhere else and sleep during the day?
    10. Do you throw out clothes (do they get blood stained)?
    11. What grosses you out the most about BBs?

    I've had these questions but wouldn't want to ask someone traumitized by it. It seems like it's 30-60 days or longer before people realize they have them, so you are probably seeing much more extreme cases than is the norm.

    TAOT

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    I don't think it's that they find your tattoos attractive is more likely that you just react more when bitten in the inked area. It's not uncommon to get raised lumpy bits on an inked area from time to time particularly on the outlined areas. I have lots of ink and this happens now and again. A tattooist once told be it's something to do with damage to nerve endings and another said its something to do with ingredient in the pigments not sure which one or if either are true but I react worse to bites on my coloured in bits

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    OK inundated with questions here so ....

    theyareoutthere... as a host I sleep with bed bugs whilst a room is under treatment to lure them out so they walk over the chemical. Otherwise they will hibernate unfed due to no human being in the room, this is a service mainly used for hotels and hostels who cannot rent infested rooms but need live hosts to help the treatment work. No I am not video taped.
    When I enter an infested room I remove my shoes and the rest of my clothing place them all into black sacks and then wear the shorts and vest top I will be sleeping in, these do not leave the room until they are due to be laundered and then only when sealed in a plastic bag . I'd love to be able to afford my own packtite closet but if I did need to use one I'd borrowone of bed-bugscouk's as having watched them being used as a de-con method by his company I am a total fan of packtite, an awesome invention which has proved a very effective and efficient way to de-con infested belongings.
    Yes I feel a pin prick when bitten IF I am awake at the time.
    No I am not going to write a Stephen King type novel as writing novel's isn't really my forte!!

    DougSummersMS... thanks, the name was chosen due to my day time job of post treatment deep cleaning, which is basically chemical removal and dead bed bug undertaking
    Interesting theory on them possibly seeing the ink as veins, have often wondered about their vision. As for payment well it covers my expenses and almost makes up for missing my own bug free bed, but only almost. It's not so much about the money for me, it's more the education as I get to learn more about their habits by being in there with them in a natural environment. Whilst laboratory testing can teach us a lot about them, it's not quite the same as actually being in an infestation in a home. I can study while I work without being emotionally attached to the infested property.
    I can also empathise with customers who are under treatment, and can actually honestly say to them I understand without coming across as patronising.
    As soon as I tell them I am a host it gives them a sense of comradeliness, let's face it living with an infestation in your home is stressful and customers can often have mood swings and be grumpy towards those trying to help them. Not their fault it's very understandabl. Can get a tad grumpy myself after long periods of hosting, although mine is often due to missing my own home and having to live out of plastic bags and not eating properly , as hotels and hostels don't have cooking facilities or home comforts.

    Nobugsonme... glad you're enlightened

    Bedbugman I actually take a hot bath or shower each morning I am hosting to bring the bites up as I am making note of this to give me an idea of how the treatment is going and it's only been during the last 7 weeks that I have found bites around the outside of my tattoo's, I know the tattoos themselves often come up with lumps and bumps normally but they don't usually have bed bug bites around them. This is why I posted as I find this unusual after 3 years of hosting and never seeing bites in these area's before. They are usually on my arms, feet and legs but until recently the haven't been this close to my ink.

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    theyareoutthere...

    1. I sleep on whatever colour sheets are provided with.
    2. I've never seen faecal on the sheet or cast skins but have seen blood spots and stains and dead bodies which I have obviously killed in my sleep. Hence the blood stains.
    3. Yes I take iron if in a heavy infestation and feel the need for it, I take a ferrous sulphate base iron supplement.
    4. Yes I read in bed and have on one occasion nodded off and woke to find an adult bed bug crawling across the page. I always throw books away after hosting just in case. No I don't watch TV I don't have one at home either as TV just doesn't interest me. I do however take a notebook and dongle so I have internet access and to date have not have a problem with either getting infested.
    5. There is no way I would sleep with anyone video taping me for any reasons, that's just creepy.
    6. Yes I see nymphs they remind me of mobile dandruff when unfed and are like mobile red dots once they've fed.
    7. I rarely feel them crawl over me but yes as I said if I am awake I do feel a pin prick and when I check there's usually a well fed fat one crawling away. Yes I catch these ones and kill them.
    8. I am bound by customer confidentiality on this one.
    9. No I go to work through the day, hence I can empathise with infested customers.
    10. No I don't throw out clothes as I wear black vest tops and black mens boxer shorts when hosting and wash them at 60 degrees and use them only for hosting.
    11. Being female there are certain times they can get a tad too close to the legs of my boxer shorts and I can feel violated because they got too close. ( blunt answer but you did ask )

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    Bedbug_Undertaker - 1 day ago  » 
    Nobugsonme
    Harris is a very valued member of our team am sure David will introduce him to you sometime.
    rs1971, I see them regularly when I'm hosting, more often than not when they are heading towards me all hungry and ready to feed and, quite often the more sneakier ones I spot straight after I've felt them bite me and they are scurrying away, those I usually take great pleasure in squashing the life out of a case of it's my blood and they're not keeping it ....

    So I'm not crazy you can feel them bite you? my husband read somewhere you cant feel it due to something that numbs you when they drink your blood? I swear I feel them bite me! he says it's in my head and I'm just paranoid. All the ones I have found have been flat so I dont think they have fed yet they were coming out to feed. shudders ugh

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    Sleepingwithvampbugs:

    Hi, in one of her replies to me she stated the following "Yes I feel a pin prick when bitten IF I am awake at the time".

    I've read both on this forum. They numb you combined with a delayed skin reaction may mean you are SURE you were just bitten, but it was hours ago.

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    sleepingwithvampbugs... no you're not crazy I genuinely feel them bite.

    theyareoutthere ....you may have read on a forum that we do not feel them feed and this is true but how do you think they anaesthetise you to feed ?? they obviously pierce the skin first and this is the pin prick I feel, I did not at any time say I feel them feed, I said I feel them bite.
    As for saying am I sure I am not feeling this hours later. How come when I feel that pin prick I peel back the duvet I find a live bed bug close to the spot I felt the pin prick? This is a matter of seconds not even a whole minute from feeling the pin prick to peeling back the duvet and finding that live bug.
    I know what I feel and I know what I see and I know it takes me less than a minute to react to the feeling of being pricked not hours.

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    BedBugUndertaker - You interest me strangely. I got a lot of bites on a tattoo, I never figured out if they were simply an increased reaction, or an actual increased incidence of bites in that specific area, as my bite response is complicated by an ismorphic reaction.

    However, and I hate to tell you this, I now have blanks in my ink. Tiny, pigmentless pinpricks throughout the design. I'm very picky about who needles me so I'm totally confident in the work, and none of the highly respected tat artists to whom I`ve shown the damage have ever seen the like.

    It may be the combination of bites + psoriasis that caused my problem but do keep an eye on your ink

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    Hi, BB Undertaker:

    Yep, I was thinking of feeding vs. the initial bite for numbing.

    No offense meant. I meant both sides of the story were on the forum. Sometimes, on the forum, when people say they feel a bite at 9 am, but nothing is there...someone else has said it can take hours for some people to react. So, if my understanding is correct, two people in the same bed may react at different times...even to the extent of a very strong reaction from one and nothing from the other. Obviously, you react right away...which would be very useful in your position.

    If I understood right, the BBs are biting AROUND the tattoo as well as in it and this is a new issue.

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    Koebner... you're not the first person to say that !! A lot of people find it fascinating but strange that I willingly sleep with other people's bed bugs.
    But I am relieved I'm not the only one to have my ink attract the little blighters.
    I'm also very fussy who inks me also I have used the same guy for 18 years now
    theyareoutthere..
    Yes they have suddenly started biting AROUND my tattoo's but only one occasion so far I have had a bite on the ink itself, but they seem to be getting closer to it. I have postponed my next one until this bout of hosting is over. I was due to have it done at the weekend
    No I don't always get a skin reaction straight away even when I've felt the bite it often doesn't flare up until I have had a hot bath or shower or am hot and bothered on the tube (which is always a hot stuffy form of transport no matter what time of year) or hot through working.
    I do tend to study my bodies reactions as I host for self education as well as the fact that without a host an infestation will not be cleared.
    I may come across as some kind of weirdo but I am fascinated in the different reactions I get depending which part of me is bitten.

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    1) I find it really interesting that it is around the tattoo. Maybe they don't like the tattoos and are too lazy to circle back?

    2) I don't think it's weird to be curious. Having someone who is more emotionally unattached may help us learn their habits. I found Patrick's and Jeff's comments regarding the harborages (under Chicago Summit) interesting. It's also interesting that you are more sensitive after that time with 1,000 bites. It's such a scary thought to me to have that many bites.

    I finally figured out that doing an EXCELLENT job of cleaning up after BBs would be really important to the hospitality industry. People freak out if they find one whether it's dead or alive since it means there may be more.

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    the post treatment deep clean works well in homes too. It's an essential part of the way we work. On many occasions I have turned up on deep clean day and the tenant or home owner is in a flap as they have noticed one or two live bugs still. Yet once I've finished and advised them to give it two to three days before booking a re treat more often than not we never hear from the again as the deep clean dealt with the stragglers.
    But my method of deep clean is more manual labour than house keeping, I literally take their bed frames apart and clean every single screw hole and nook and cranny, then rebuild it and,remove all chemical residue from the treatment. The final but vital part is when I give myself a good vacuuming before leaving the room. This has caused many an odd look from customers who have walked in to find me vacuuming myself, but to date this method has stopped me taking my work home with me.

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    BedBugUndertaker - its some measure of how accustomed I have become to BB concerns and control that your hosting work wasnt what I meant. That seems quite straightforward, if beyond my own skin`s capacity to bear. I was just intrigued by the tattoo issue.

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    Koebner... Ahhh I see, I'm just a bit of an ink addict but don't like these little blighters going near it


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