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  1. P Bello

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    Dear Folks, (and NBs, yes. it's time to roll your eyes right about now, sorry mom ! )

    Warning, this post is likely not for everyone but I'll do my best to actually keep it clean !

    One of the interesting aspects of my role is the diversity of pest situations I get to assist on.

    And, as you may have heard before, often times observed "truth is stranger than fiction".

    Yesterday I took a call for assistance from a professional in an area I like to call Chicago.

    Reportedly, he was working at a bed bug infested home but came across some unusual and sensitive items that needed to be treated.

    Unfortunately for my virgin ears he went into graphic detail during his description of the items that needed to be treated.

    As it were, he'd never encountered this situation before, either in variety nor quantity but his professional experience correctly indicated to him that these items could not be treated in a traditional way.

    As the conversation progressed he described to me a number of electronic type devices, non-electronic devices, battery operated devices and other such items.

    His muffled voice was rather low and difficult to understand so I had to ask him to speak up. He responded that he could not speak too loudly because the bed bug customer, who happened to be the lady of the house, was in the very next room.

    Now, as much fun as it would be for me to fully recount our conversation with great detail, much to the ammusement of our fellow BBFers everywhere, suffice it to say that these various items, at least to me, comprised one sorded batch of "dna soup", if you will.

    So, folks, if you have an item, or items,where the intended use involves, uh, er, how do I say this, let's go with, "areas where the sun don't shine", are battery operated, usually wielded by a girl named like Bambi, Luv Angel, Double Dee-Loris or similar. And, these items are comprised of various pourous and non pourous materials. And, the use of these items might involve KY jelly (please note that's NOT Kentucky but it could happen in KY, nor is it apple mint flavor intended for toast either). Then, pretty much you're not going to be wanting to handle these items without gloves and you're certainly not going to be applying pesticides to these things either.

    I'm a curious guy so by nature I simply had to ask a few questions right? I mean wouldn't you? OK, good. So I'm thinking like how many of these "things" could there be? So, I asked. He told me she had three boxes full and all of them were different. Yee-ouch ! As pco's we sometimes get to see stuff we don't wanna see, for sure, right guys?

    OK, so the question was how to treat these things. The pro was thinking that he was going to bag or containerize 'em and treat em using pest strips to which I stated: NO !

    The last thing I need is some "person" calling about why their luv muffin feels like it's on fire or something of that nature and then have to hear the story of how these symptoms possibly happened all due to bed bugs and the bed bug treatment thereof. And, simply stated, yuck !

    (Now let me get this straight so y'all don't think I'm "hittin for the other team" or anything like that. I like me dem wimmins jus fine. However, don't think you're coming after me with a friggin appliance ! Just sayin.)

    OK, so here's the answer.

    Should any of yooz gize ever have the need to treat or "de-bug", uh let's go with, "adult toys" DO NOT, under any circumstances, attempt to treat them with any type of pesticide product ! DO NOT use any traditional nor non-toxic type pesticide products on "these type products or devices" !

    Additional comments:

    > These toys are best treated/de-bugged in a non-chemical fashion.
    > Avoid handling customers luv tools & toys however, if you must, wear golves and avoid the "dna soup" or other contaminents that may be present. (God knows where they've been and with whom or what !)
    > It may be best to suggest some non-chemical treatment methodologies that the customer, in this case Double Dee Loris, can implement herself.
    > Suggest these items be treated using a pack tite so that DJ can get the follow up phone calls and not yours truly.

    I can sense that some of you ma not believe the authenticity of the topicality aboive however, I assure
    you it's true.

    PLEASE be careful and make good decisions out there guys !

    Have a nice day, as for me, I'm going to church now ! paul b.

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    Please remove batteries from electronic devices before attempting to run them through a Packtite. There's always risk of damaging an electronic device even with the battery removed, but as Paul said, you don't want pesticides in your lady- or man-parts.

    I started and run the site but am "not an expert."
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    OMG-- Paul, did you just plug using the Packtite to treat butt plugs!?!

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    First of all, I can't believe I get to post before david cain.

    Second, well done Paul with your advice as always.

    And yes this thread will go up on the wall of fame at the factory along with the packtite xmas poem and others.

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    P Bello - 18 minutes ago  » 
    The last thing I need is some "person" calling about why their luv muffin feels like it's on fire . . .
    paul b.

    Luv Muffin, seriously?! LM*O Paul Bello!!!

    Ok, but now, on a serious treatment question . . . if one can be serious . . . and absolutely NOT saying this information is for myself, but just to cover all possible possibilities/scenarios . . .

    Couldn't one theoretically treat said items with said pest strips for however long the recommended time period, and then wash/clean the "heck" out of them?!

    Again, just for the sake of someone that might not be able to afford a PackTite . . . thankfully I have one! (But I do understand your preference for the follow up questions to go to David James rather than you!)

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    So, to NBs & Abs,

    The way I read the above it's like you're asking "about your friend that has a problem with . . ." type thing.

    Yeah, your friend, right. Hmmm . . .

    OK, in all seriousness to answer the question as posed:

    NO, we don't want any object, be it battery powered, latex, rubber, plastic or a friggin gerbal to come in contact with ANY pesticide for ANY reason prior to coming in contact with, as NBs states, "your lady parts or man parts", period ! (OK, some poor word choices there. Perhaps our resident wordologist can help clean this up for me; socal, any assistance here?) And, were taking this position in light of the fact that there are alternative & viable non-pesticide methodologies that may be utilized to get the bugs out of and off of your nasties.

    'nuff said on this methinx but; wow, it sure is fertile ground for bathroom humor as that part of my brain has never progressed past, like, 8th grade. Kwik, pull my finger . . .

    It's my pleasure to educate and entertain y'all, have a nice day ! paul b.

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    Clearly there is a one word solution, intervention!

    Clearly this women has a kinky addiction that needs to be addressed.

    NOT with a PackTite. Certainly not with Nuvon Strips as this may, down the road apiece, only further this broads addiction --and yes, anyone who's lived a little knows that truth is stranger than fiction.

    Riding on the success of Bill Wilson's fellowship, AA, other fellowships have evolved. NA (narcotics),
    NA (nicotene), and SAA (sex addict}

    Now you may be thinking that I'm pointing this women toward the later fellowship. Well, I'm not exactly sure. From what I've gathered, Sex Addicts Anonymous is usually comprised of people with very pitiable stories of child hood sexual abuse which often leads to addiction to alcohol, drugs and yes, ironically, sex. (Particularly in the case of women). It is a tragic story--one that should not be taken lightly as one would have to be something of a heavy weight to be find themselves with a bedbug infestation AND all manner of sex toys, 3 bags full, baa.

    There is however another meeting, and-or fellowship if you will. It is a treatment/forum designed for individuals who have been paroled from the penal system. One of many conditions of parole for individuals in this population would demand participation in such a program, (though I believe these parolee's are more likely male). If this program is extended to include women who have been paroled after serving time for sexual felonies, I would guess the meetings would be gender specific!

    My other thought is that this pervert is perhaps a pro, and I don't mean pco but pdo (professional dominatrix). And, unless this particular breed of dirt bag comes to see the light -- or simply grows too long in the tooth or too weak to continue to ply, if necessary with pliers(!!!) her service, then, perhaps Sex Addicts Anonymous would do.

    Paul, my advice to your pco pal in Chicago would be to slap the bitch around some after first slapping some duct tape over her mouth and then, maybe-- and with gloves, inject a butt plug into her you-know-where until she can be convinced to throw her toys away; all for her own good.Then and only then should your pal get on with the job of treating her home. She'll probably need to be restrained and I've no doubt the equipment to do so is on site and readily available.

    At this point I would invite any bugger reading this post to chime in with their advice/opinion, whether it be to embellish upon above suggestion or disagree!

    Oh Boy, let me get off my soap box and have a nice shower-- and I don't mean golden.

    And Paul, thank you for sharing--(applause)

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    I packtite my items. You should replace your old items with the newer BPA free or whatever it is items. Some of the old ones (you know..the ones that smell like plastic) aren't good to put in those parts anyway. Glass and steel are popular, and I do have one that goes in the freezer first (is that too much TMI?)....

    It does take me time to packtite my 5 boxes of items...the client must be a young woman, with only 3 boxes. I do CLEAN first, fully dry, remove batteries, etc. It is a full time job...whew...

    Paul, I usually listen to your advice, but I think Mr. Cain may have more expertise here. Doesn't the packtite dry out the leather items?

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    LOL !

    LMAO !

    OMG !

    TMI !

    W T F !

    pjb

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    As a "product" consultant (putting my Ole Miss education to very good use...lol), I truly appreciate your contribution, Paul B., into saving our, um, shall we say, "best way to pass 30 minutes" items We bored housewives have to have something to do other than lady lunches & you'd be surprised at how fast a nice collection can turn into 3+ boxes. Now, what to do with the blonde, brunette & red wigs that are also stored in said boxes...

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    My first thought was that, yes, batteries needed to be removed before heat was applied to such objects--that applies as much to heat treatment of structures as to the use of a Packtite.

    I know that I may have more inhibitions than many people, but I made really, really sure that any objects that might fit into that category were, in fact, not visible in any way in my apartment before treatment. I had too many mental images of the very nice PCOs who were coming to rid my apartment of vermin being in exactly the situation that Paul described. I did everything I could to head that off.

    Of course, because I am not into embarrassment or humiliation in any way (hey, if humiliation is one of your kinks, cool, but I do subscribe to the general principle that everybody involved needs to consent to the activity in question, and unwittingly bringing your PCO into such play seems really, really uncool if you haven't asked if humiliation is one of his or her kinks or not), if such objects had theoretically been present in my apartment (and I'll just remind you all that I'm a lesbian, so you can make some educated guesses about the statistical likelihood that certain kinds of objects may or may not have been), they would be stored in the container equivalent of a plain brown wrapper.

    Rumor has it that toolboxes are an excellent storage container for such items. They're a good size, they are easy to move around, and they have the ability to be locked to keep prying eyes out of them.

    Of course, the one downside to using such a container is that also true to stereotypes, many lesbians also have actual tool boxes filled with things like screwdrivers, hammers, electrical tape, tape measures, pliers, wire cutters, etc. I'm fairly sure it's a card-revoking offense to be a lesbian and not have the basics needed for the simplest home repair jobs on hand.

    Since on occasion neighbors borrow things like screwdrivers or hammers, anyone choosing to secret other objects away in another toolbox would have to be careful that no one confused the toolboxes . . . but, well, uh yeah.

    Or so I would suspect.

    < evil grin >

    For the record, since I did treat the non-heat treatable items in my home with DDVP strips, it seemed 100% completely obvious to me that there were certain objects I did not ever want to treat with DDVP strips. The contents of a secondary tool box would clearly hypothetically have been among those items. Silicone and jelly rubber both seem way too porous, and I suspect a historical analysis of sex toys from the, say, mid to late aughts would reveal those to have been common materials used in the fabrication of such. Metal and glass items were not quite as popular then. Leather also seems best treated by inspection and/or isolation for a long period of time if you're worried about it drying out. These days, at least in the LGBT community, there are so many vegans, that you would find fabric versions of most items like harnesses and restraints. Sure, they may not have the same aesthetic impact, but we do have to make some sacrifices in the fight against bed bugs. Going 6 months without your favorite restraints seems a smaller price to pay than damaging the leather.

    On a less salacious but no less intimate note, I also managed all on my own to conclude that unused packages of feminine hygiene products (like tampons in particular given their more, uh, interior usage) were best treated with heat, not DDVP.

    Menstrual cups were something I hadn't yet heard of, but if there were any in a home, I would likely treat them the same way since they're generally made of the same medical grade silicone as higher end sex toys.

    Ditto on reusable menstrual pads.

    At any rate, I can't say that I was as scrupulous about making sure that any unused and still wrapped feminine hygiene products were all safely squirreled away before treatment since my whole apartment was being heated. Even if I had been careful, the problem is that my cat thinks my tampons are awesome toys, and she tends to bat them around on the carpet or linoleum after liberating them from dresser tops or the bathroom floor if they fall in there and I don't notice, and then they slide under things, so, uh, well . . . yeah. I'm sure I didn't get them all. Since they're wrapped in cellophane-like material, they slide very effectively when batted by a cat. It's the one and only downside I've found of applicator-less tampons.

    I feel no shame about about unused tampons, though, and I don't think they're really party to either RACK or SSC guidelines since they aren't usually sexual.

    Also, I may even have used them from time to time to make particular men uncomfortable from in very specific and strategic situations. More than once I snuck a camera into a no camera venue by nestling it inside a large box of tampons in my bag. Shockingly, I have found that many of the men who work as security at venues are remarkably reticent to look too closely at a box of tampons. I may also take particular pleasure in sprinkling them around in my luggage when I know I'm headed to an airport for the TSA to find. Since they're unused, it's not like they're dangerous--but yeesh do guys tend to act like they are.

    For the record, though, I do think it's pretty uncool to leave your toys out for someone you're not playing with to find. Doesn't matter if it's the PCO or your parents/kids after your death. Many people I know have designated local friends to come and de-porn or de-toy their homes before their families arrive in the event of something that would require someone to go through your home happened to them. Again, one of the primary ethics of most kinky communities is that you don't involve people in your play if they haven't consented to being a part of it, and I'm pretty sure the PCO didn't sign up for a crash course in the state of sex toys in that particular part of the country.

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    P Bello - 1 hour ago  » 
    So, to NBs & Abs,
    The way I read the above it's like you're asking "about your friend that has a problem with . . ." type thing.
    Yeah, your friend, right. Hmmm . . .
    OK, in all seriousness to answer the question as posed

    Paul,

    The only question I asked was completely rhetorical.

    Buggyinsocal,

    This sort of smart, reasoned, thoughtful, helpful and mature response is why we love you!

    In case you were wondering about that.

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    Hey, Ho's, why you gonna give all this information to the guys? They never tell us gals a thing.

    On the other hand, maybe they need to know. Ya think it'll make a difference with average duck, ( and I'm not talkin' length or girth, tehee!

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    This is incredible. Paul nicest guy I've never met starts an amusing thread detailing a never before experienced event in a day in the life of a pco's associate and..... wham-a-lang-a-ding-dong (not!) the girls are letting their hair down! Now that's phat.

    @nobugs, is this a first? When you started the site didja ever think just how buggin cool yer baby would grow?

    @Buggyinsocal, pleased to meet you, hope you like my name, yeah.

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    Boy oh boy!! So, I've been busy as of late and have not been on the forum that much. I come on the other day and hear about a lot of trash talking (point me to the trash I missed) but don't see much of it on the surface. I start reading topics to see where I may be of assistance and Bam! Paul, you crack me up. I'm not even sure where to begin in here or if I should even try to =)

    And if you're wondering the answer is YES. We see this stuff all the time!!!!!

    Perhaps the freakiest moment in Boot A Pest history was when my tech, Bobby, went to a gay mans home (Bobby is heterosexual) for an inspection. He felt as though the client was hitting on him and felt rather uncomfortable because of it. He's working through the inspection and then pulls the blanket and sheets back to see the top of the mattress. He's looking at a blood stain that is about 2 foot round. With the client in the room he paused for a second and the guy said to him - wait for it, wait for it .... "I can assure you that is not from bed bugs". Picture it with the most twisted, I'm putting my sexy voice on, type of way.

    lol Still cracks me up

    You kids are funny!

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    Oh, and after I head home remind me to tell you about the young adult that answered the door to his apartment wearing nothing but a diaper. He asking me to stay and hang out with him because other then the bed bugs he doesn't have much company over and is lonely.

    Yeah - I got stories

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    Could "toys" be treated with alcohol, its on the list of ingredients for the cleaner they give u at the store.... at least i would assume so ........ even steam some are water proof (or so ive heard) and i imagine would withstand a bit of steaming .... not that i would know anything about that stuff tho

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    KillerQueen - 7 minutes ago  » 
    Oh, and after I head home remind me to tell you about the young adult that answered the door to his apartment wearing nothing but a diaper. He asking me to stay and hang out with him because other then the bed bugs he doesn't have much company over and is lonely.
    Yeah - I got stories

    omg i was crying at the first post but this put me over the edge ......

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    OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI
    OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI OMG TMI

    Wow, you guys know I can't just sit here and say nothin, right? However, picture me standing here with my hands over my ears yelling: na na na na na na na, I can't hear you, I can't hear you, I can't hear you . . .

    NBs, well, if that's your story . . .

    BBanx, uh, er, I'm not sure what to say but if I had to ask you a question the first half is: Do you know the difference between going out to lunch and . . . ?

    socal, I have a number of tool boxes however, you can bet your sweetass that mine are all packed with tools, and I mean actual fixin stuff tools.
    And see, we do have somethin in common, I think I'm a lesbian too : )

    taot, well, if you must, please go with the heat treatment and when that's done, you can then go with the other kinda heat treatment

    bbut, y'all jus gotta tell us straight caus we be dumb about that sh#t . . .

    KQ, help me out here bro, I'm way outnumbered and yeah, we do get to see some amazin stuff out there huh

    And all, imagine what fun we'd have sitting around a huge table, our beverage of choice flowing freely and shootin the sh#t, just laid back n relaxed, it would be a blast; who's up for a BBr Road Trip ? (and that's a whole nutha thread problably)

    You guys are fun, thanks ! paul b.

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    @ KillerQueen, I dunno John-- you, Bobby, me.....I figure we're cut from a similar cloth, new yorker's,
    good ole blue collar kids, and how well do we know you can't make that shit up.

    Realize ' u can't make that shit up' applies everywhere, but c'mon, Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens?
    It percolates here in this town just like the bugs. Lookin forward to some laughs, straight up.

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    theyareoutthere - 4 hours ago  » 
    . . . but I think Mr. Cain may have more expertise.

    I agree with TAOT on this one. So just where IS David Cain when you want/need him and his expertise?!

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    Could "toys" be treated with alcohol

    It really depends on what the toys in question are made of.

    Many silicone toys are dishwasher safe and/or come with instructions about putting them into boiling water to disinfect them, and I'm pretty sure that a dishwasher cycle would get hot enough to kill any bed bugs and/or eggs. I know the boiling water would. I would guess ditto for glass or metal toys. I'm not sure about the newer wood ones. Yes, it's true that many battery powered items aren't waterproof, but a surprising number either lack batteries and/or electrical cords or are waterproof. I'm pretty sure that Good Vibes's website still has a special icon for toys that are waterproof.

    However, some of the less expensive toys are made of various kinds of plastic, and my experiences with the liberal application of 91% alcohol was that it made some kinds of plastics get tacky. (Not badly decorated tacky, but sticky to the touch.)

    It's been a long time since my bed bug infestation, so I can't remember exactly what plastics that happened to--other than the inside of a leather travel folio I have (it stores my passport, has a see through pouch for a identification card, and has two currency pockets on the back, in addition to being large enough to hold an itinerary and boarding passes--from the days before you could just get pdfs emailed to you on your phone and use electronic boarding passes. I got it when I was doing more international traveling, so it was nice to be able to have some cash from various countries near to hand upon arrival at an airport.)

    While the exterior of that was leather, there was some kind of plastic or vinyl lining on the divider inside the boarding pass/itinerary interior pocket, and the alcohol absolutely trashed that.

    I seem to have vague memories of the 91% alcohol making other plastic items more melty, but (and this isn't subtle irony or an attempt at humor, I'm being sincere here) I honestly can't remember what. (I know it wasn't the contents of the toolbox since that was ziplocked after being padlocked before I left it in the apartment with three men who were strangers to me.) I mostly remember that my first experience with a chemical making a plastic melt was spraying insect repellent on a digital watch when I was a teenager, and the effect of the alcohol on some plastics seemed a lot like that.

    At any rate, I do sometimes think that a point David Cain made a long time ago is a good one to remember: I think sometimes in our initial waves of panic we overlook how useful inspection can be. You can't inspect the number of books I have in my apartment--there are too many hiding places in too many books and fatigue is a factor. However, I would suspect that most peoples' toy collections are small enough--and the design of most toys are such--that these are items that if they can't be treated with heat (dishwasher, packtite sans batteries, and/or boiling water), inspection if the owner of the toys has been adequately trained (by practicing on items less likely to cause embarrassment to both the PCO doing the teaching and the bed bug sufferer doing the learning) can be used in a lot of situations.

    And, wow, who knew there was going to be this much actual content in this thread.

    On a non-content note, Paul, plenty of people I know would say that *both* of my toolboxes are actually packed with tools. Just different kinds of tools.

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    My mom always said better to have your own tools vs rely on someone else's.

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    theyareoutthere - 19 minutes ago  » 
    My mom always said better to have your own tools vs rely on someone else's.

    O M G TAOT - Hilarious!!!!

    P Bello - 2 hours ago  » 
    And all, imagine what fun we'd have sitting around a huge table, our beverage of choice flowing freely and shootin the sh#t, just laid back n relaxed, it would be a blast; who's up for a BBr Road Trip ? (and that's a whole nutha thread problably) paul b.

    Count me in Paul Bello! We just have to agree on a central location . . . unless you're buying, then we will come to you!

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    bbut, y'all jus gotta tell us straight caus we be dumb about that sh#t . . .

    Paul & any buggers hoo wanna' hear me--Boogaloo dudes (and I want to talk to all of you)
    Carry the news......go to youtube, see Mott The Hoople play All The Young Dudes, yeah, David Bowie.... Bowie did eventually sing it in concert.....("I've wanted to do this for years...") Could be on youtube, dunno. F*c* Bowie, listen-up_______________________________________

    Yeah, I've been wanting to do it for years too. Straight-up, anyone don't get me? Y'all be school smart but you ain't got edumacated like us. wanna edumcation? get offa your tia zecnology and hit the street. Start with a few misdemeanors. Buggyinsocal's walkin the walk. Cmon kid, les go. Sell a sucker a kilo o' catnip Don't get caught. Test yer skills boostin'. Y'all schooled in buggin' but can ya boost? You'll soon take a pinch but tha's okay cuz thats where u get edumacated real fast, dig?

    And Paul, I seen you comin'. Think I'll talk? I was hit by a truck. I don't know nothin; Plead to the 5th.

    *dis-claimer--all statements on this post are fiction taken from my tv set--now go turn a trick.

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    I agree, this thread is growing like Jax magic beans.

    And wow, the turns it's taken. Good thing I'm comfortable with where I'm at, who I am and in touch with my fem side.

    Hmmm . . . road trip destination, whadyathink ? it's a big country.

    pjb

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    Damn, stick the words Adult toyon a brand new thread. Now there's a rocket in yo pocket.

    Example:

    Do I (adult toys) have to (adult toys) bag everything? 3 1 mattressflipper 1 minute

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    Roger, Rabbit =)

    [+] Embed the videoGet the Video Plugin

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    bedbugsuptown - 16 minutes ago  » 
    Damn, stick the words Adult toyon a brand new thread. Now there's a rocket in yo pocket.
    Example:
    Do I (adult toys) have to (adult toys) bag everything?

    LOL BBUT!

    P Bello - 28 minutes ago  » 
    Hmmm . . . road trip destination, whadyathink ? it's a big country.
    pjb

    PB, that sounds suspiciously like you are not buying then, so GA's out. Does anyone know how we can get DJ's credit card number for Bed Bug Road Trip "BBRT" 2013?!

    @KQ, what are you doing up so late . . . didn't you work all day?!

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    Ten Years After yeaah. Great taste John, ground breakin' Alvin Lee. The English brought the blues to many a northern white boy.

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    This thread cracks me up.

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    Items like these can be an issue when several items are involved and clients remove them from the treatment area containing bed bugs and then reintroduce them. This is especially true of more hardcore items. Rope, leather and other materials need to be treated as any other clothing items, rubber latex etc can usually be boiled and it is a good idea occasionally in general for hygiene reasons. As an applicator if you encounter these type of items be professional and ask the folks to remove them and perform bed bug prep measures as they would any other similar item. Obviously treating in any chemical manner is ill advised as these items may/will come in contact with sensitive areas and tissue. Blow driers (no pun intended) can be utilized by owner or their submissive in an enclosed area like a tub to treat. Metal gets hot so be careful. Packtites as previously stated might be a good idea, and again and again no pun intended.

    PS: Paul next time include pictures, lol.

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    Yes, Winston, photos are in the development phase and we're thinking we'll go with "scartch n sniffs" as well; kinda-sorta as an added bonus for all.

    : ) pjb

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    Winston said

    Blow driers (no pun intended) can be utilized by owner or their submissive in an enclosed area like a tub to treat.

    Priceless!

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    Here’s a little off topic joke for everyone (with perhaps some potential advice):

    A woman was having a passionate affair with an exterminator when her husband arrived home unexpectedly.

    “Quick,” she said to her lover, “hide in the closet!” as she pushed him in stark naked.

    The husband, sensing something was not right, began looking around and found the man in the closet.

    “Who are you?” he demanded.
    “I’m an exterminator” said the man

    “What are you doing in there?”
    “I’m investigating a complaint about a moth infestation.”

    “Where are your clothes?”
    The man looked down at himself and exclaimed “Those little b*stards!”

    Hahaha . . . Now, not saying that any of the esteemed PCOs, PMPs or others, would ever be caught in such a situation, but if you ever should . . . feel free to blame it on the moths!

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    An experienced professional would already have identified, located and utilized suitable routes of egress . . .

    just sayin : )

    pjb

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    P Bello - 2 minutes ago  » 
    An experienced professional would already have identified, located and utilized suitable routes of egress . . .
    just sayin : )
    pjb

    O M G you crack me up!!!! LM*O!!!

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    Hey, that's what my plumber says.

    I think women get crushes on people that can fix their homes. Same is true with doctors and other heros. To be serious, is never want any professional who came to my home to feel hit on or uncomfortable.

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    theyareoutthere - 3 minutes ago  » 
    I think women get crushes on people that can fix their homes.

    Or with "people" that have a hilarious sense of humor?! Just say'n??

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    On the other hand, my experience with the maintenance men (who sprayed for roaches...no professional pcos), plumbers, electricians etc was that considered flirting with the female property managers a job perk.

    I always had coffee and often cookies in my office for the maintenance guys. I got in early so my place was their first stop after they finished coffers from home...I was not against being the first of 20 buildings. Once the lobby cable tv which I watched was fixed before ac next door.

    You don't have to read below but I'm friendly and a flirt but I began dressing more conservatively after the guy in the story would come by once a week and remind me he had a vasectomy. I decided not to complete the full story but you get the drift. It was funny at first but must of the other guys kept it light.

    The tenants commented on how much faster service was since I started. I assumed it was the coffee. I was allowed to wear shorts or jeans and tshirts. Anyway, if the problem was on the first three floors we would walk up. Once we were walking up in June and the female tenant said..you can tell you are a runner..you have great legs.I was about to turn to say thanks and the maintenance guy said I agree and then made a lip smacking noise. I ignore it and the tenant leaves us to fix her plumbing. As he us working, u ask if we need to call the professional...if it was more than the disposal.

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    I think women get crushes on people that can fix their homes. Same is true with doctors and other heros. To be serious, is never want any professional who came to my home to feel hit on or uncomfortable.

    I'm with you TOAT. Thing is if your contractor, plumber etc is not only good with his hands but also a looker and good with his hands hotty lady of the house is gonna be disappointed in the end.

    Here's one very good NY referance--Danny Pelosi and Generosa Ammon. Fact trumps fiction most everytime.

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    Wait...are you referring looks or services?

    I've had some friends use this one moving co which hires college guys for summer and weekend moves but my friends wish they had gone with the professionals.

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    Both! Human sex drive--its a power tool!

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    I've had some friends use this one moving co which hires college guys for summer and weekend moves but my friends wish they had gone with the professionals.

    @ TAOT-- AFof L/CIO, they used to teach us to holler for the union from the top of our tiny lungs. College boy as moving man? Nneoh.

    @Winston O. Buggy-- May be a union brat (u might be too), however, switching to my gentile, well bred voice may I welcome you to this thread and applaud your post. So glad you dropped in. I find myself a tad surprised that more of you old timers haven't followed suit. I can only pray that you do as this novelty thread seems to be slowly fading for the moment. Well, fiddle dee dee, tomorrow is another day...but, great balls of fire I believe I have a suggestion that might fuel this thread after all. Winston, might I impose upon you to pm any oldtimers that you might be in touch with and direct them to this thread. It's entirely up to you dear, just please understand that if others fail to add their 2 cents this thread will soon be gone with the wind.

    @buggyinsocal-- From opposite ends of the continent though we be, so happy you also dropped in. To quote nobugs, "This sort of smart, reasoned, thoughtful, helpful and mature response is why we love you!" There is just no possibility that I could ever be so clever as to trump our eloquent host. I can only resort to my usual modis operandi and misquote the lyrics to a song Phil Spector produced for the Teddy Bears at the beginning of his career--

    To know, know, know her is to love, love, love her
    Just to see her smile, makes my life worthwhile
    To know, know, know her is to love, love, love her
    And I do

    Goodness, this would work well on that other off topic thread, something about positively what I'm not quite sure.

    Well now, what more is there to say? Clash does come to mind here_________________________________
    Should I stay or should I go.....

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    What ???

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    Hmmm, I am going to stick with my New Years resolution about being pure and virtuous on this thread other than to say:

    If you are not sure if you are RACK or SSC try doing a risk assessment in Wiseman's and the outcome would be clear. It would also illustrate well that in most cases standard good practice toy-giene would suffice for decon.

    I have worked in a few infestations that lets just say were a little more professional scale than a small personal collection.

    David

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    In accordance with the AUP and FTC I openly disclose my vested interest in Passive Monitors as the inventor and patent holder. Since 2009 they have become an integral part in how we resolve bed bug infestations. I also have a professional relationship with PackTite in that they distribute my product under their own branding. I do not however receive any financial remuneration for any comments I make about pro
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    Best. Thread. Ever. And like Winston said, shouldn't these items be cleaned on a regular basis anyways? Eww if not.

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    theyareoutthere - 1 day ago  » 
    To be serious, is never want any professional who came to my home to feel . . . uncomfortable.

    I say if he's uncomfortable it's his own darn fault; he can always change positions!!!
    bwaaaaaaaaah!!!!!

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    Are you sayin that it's not good enough to simply dip em to clean em?

    Think of all that dna soup and whatever drippin off those things, maybe it's just me but the risk of all those potential unknown biological agents on those various used, or should we say oozed, surfaces;

    Man, that can knock the horns off a toad for sure !

    Just thinkin about that crap makes me want to take a betadyne shower and sanitize my keyboard already.

    (Hey DJ, is there a dna/unknown microbe warranty for pack tites?)

    Just sayin . . .

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    I threw out something after a year.. my significant other said, "Would you throw out my hands after a year?'. The thoughtful look in my eye as I poured antimicrobacterial soap on his hands made him shudder....

    I know there are germs everywhere, but part of the reason I have my own toys is so that those are used on me...and I clean them as directed. Maybe I just date slobs, but I don't really want anything anywhere near me that...is previously used...yuch....

    I still hold that professionals in my home should not feel uncomfortable (although Absolutely Freaking is funny!). I never thought about that you should show them these items and listen to their advice...my initial thought would be no, don't think so...I'll wait the six months out...

    Winston's line about you or your submissive..hairdryer and bathtub...that is my favorite...

    TAOT

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    BTW, don't use antibacterial products (do as I say not as I do)

    Should You Use Antibacterial Products?
    Not unless someone in the house is sick. A recent study found no difference in infectious disease rates in 228 households that used antibacterial items (hand-washing soaps, cleaners, laundry detergent) versus those that used regular products. Plus, there's a potential drawback: A number of studies have suggested that triclosan, an ingredient used in many antibacterial items, may actually foster resistance to many germs. The researchers concluded they're useful only if someone in your home is ill or has a skin or gastrointestinal ailment. Otherwise, Larson says, alcohol- and bleach-based products work best at killing germs without promoting the growth of dangerous "super bugs."

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    OK, so, as any experience pest pro will tell you, we get to see a lot of things and, it's unbelievable that we see what we see.

    Suppose you're a pest pro and your scheduled to service, say a multi-family account location, you know, regular people call em apartments. Consider that the apartment residents are informed in writing in advance that you'll be in their apartment this Thursday say, AM (or PM) to provide pest control service. In short, it's fair and reasonable to assert that these folks should pretty much know you're coming into their place. As such, isn't it fair to expect that:

    > The adult toys and related paraphernalia will not be out and visible in the apartment during your pest service visit? ( OK, maybe it's me but, really, I just don't wanna see your junk like devices, and, omg, some of them look like friggin surgical tools. Nor do I wanna see one of those blow up doll things, especially if it's obvious that this vinyl chick is your girlfriend and; why do they always "look surprised" ? )

    > There won't be various drugs and related paraphernalia out and visible ? (Seriously, pot, hash, crack, pills, crystal; yup, we got it all bro.)

    > Nor guns ?

    > Nor ammo ?

    > Nor piles of cash? (Hmmm, I smell drug dealers.)

    > Nor naked people ? (Mind you, we're not talking some hot, naked "tasty babe", no, we're talking folks like you see in walmart after 11 pm.)

    > Nor naked people X 2 in the form of a human pretzel sleeping on the couch ? (Seriously, are there no blankets in this place?)

    > Nor naked people uh, er, mid-stride ? (Oh, I'm sorry, am I disturbing you?)

    > Nor the remnants of the last "zesty session" ? (Hey, swab off on the curtains and clean up the place.)

    > Nor piles of dog sh#t. ( I mean seriously, if you have a > 75 lb dog and you feed him, here's a clue: it's like the playdoh factory, if you put stuff in one end, stuff is gonna come out the other end eventually so, take him for a walk. And, if you have to ask if your place smells like dog; guess what? And, that's not even the worst ones. Some of these apartments are so bad inside, it smells like a dog/cat. whatever, sh#t in your nose.)

    > And monkeys; who the eff thinx monkeys are a good idea for a pet? Yeah, F U ! (You know what monkeys do to strangers for their "monkey fun"? Well, if they're not "waxin their monkey carrots", they're trying to throw their monkey sh#t at you cause you're the new guy in the place. Nice. F U monkeys ! ! ! )

    Ya know, overall, I suppose what we learn is that people are what they are and some of them are, yee-ouch, friggin slobs. Apparently, cleaning up or straightening out after oneself never occurs to some of these folks.

    Whatever, surely there's no end to what we see "out there" and it's worse than what we might think.

    Kwik, pass the hand sanitizer . . .

    OK, I feel better now ! pjb

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    Paul, I guess I will bag the five boxes for six months...if ot ever comes to that..whew..guess I will keep monitoring.

    When I was in property mgmt, we had to accompany contractors. Yep, I opened a door..and 10 feet away was a couple..er..anyway, as I closed the door..said back on ten...knives again..muffled sounds...I say five...knock again..don't hear anything..walk on..Nd they hadn't said anything because they were too busy. I slammed the door. We came back and they were a naked pretzels but at least we could complete the air filter change...pstd

    We saw lots of drugs and even weird stolen stuff.

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    Many years ago I was called in to examine a dermestid problem in Brooklyn. Piles of clothes on floor and dermestid larvae (black carpet beetle) in there. I had told them that I had to examine drawers before coming over, but no one cleaned out the "special drawer full of toys". No dermestids in there; I did look. Had to move the "toys" around.

    Professional entomologist/arachnologist. I consult on all matters dealing with insects and arachnids, including those of natural history and biology to pest management and forensic entomology investigations.

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