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  1. OutOutDarnBugs

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    Posted 10 years ago
    Sun May 24 2009 21:27:06
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    This is totally a venting post... I'm just not sure how else to get it out, at this point.

    My landlord is a jerk. He lied about bbs being in my apartment before I moved in- claiming that I brought them in, even though the previous tenet had them, as well as other units in the building. He sent over his exterminator, who, while he is really nice, did a crap job because he doesn't know how to deal with bbs, and frankly, gets paid $50 per job. I spent tons of time doing research, emailing my ll, meeting with him to give him all my printed research, talking to other tenets, taking time off of work, etc.

    I said I was hiring KQ, because the LL hired exterminator wasn't fixing the problem. He said if I wanted to do it out of my pocket, fine. Eventually, he agreed to pay me back the money because he realized that KQ knew more than his guy did. His exterminator has continued to spray since then. I hadn't seen anything since wonderful KQ treated in January. There has been a few more outbreaks in the building, which the LL exterminator treated. Then, last week I found more bugs. I gave the LL information about PCOs with k9s, and suggested that maybe, to see if more units are infested, he contact one. I, meanwhile, spoke with one as well, who IDed my bb and inspected my unit. Since he spoke to my LL, I assumed the LL was on board with this PCO, and arranged for the treatment (please note, I had a wonderful experience with KillerQueen. The fact that I am going with this other PCO is only because he spoke to my LL, and I was under the assumption that the LL approved and was going to help financially).

    However, my LL does not want to pay for this exterminator. He doesn't even want to pay half (which still, on a teacher salary and in grad school debts, would still take a chunk of my savings). He wants to continue to use his exterminator. He's angry with me and just keeps writing, "This has to stop!"

    I agree. This has to stop. I've been doing this for almost 6 months now. I'm about to cry.

  2. KillerQueen

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    Posted 10 years ago
    Sun May 24 2009 23:00:52
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    Screw the land lord!!!!!!!!! How about another treatment from me for free .... ????? Damn you Lary!

  3. jcage

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    Posted 10 years ago
    Mon May 25 2009 9:49:08
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    The bb infected building stories sure make a person want to steer clear of the 'rental' business where apartments or houses is concerned as income. Sounds as though you're only way out is to get out of apartment building living where the greatest threat of re-infection may be. It'll be interesting to see too, how litigation runs it's course over this subject. Renters suing landlords and landlords counter-suing as they blame the tenant for bringing the problem in. Geez, what a potential nightmare in the making.

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    Posted 10 years ago
    Mon May 25 2009 9:50:18
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    KillerQueen - 10 hours ago  » 
    Screw the land lord!!!!!!!!! How about another treatment from me for free .... ????? Damn you Lary!

    In general, what approach do you use in treating, KQ?

  5. BBcoukHome

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    Posted 10 years ago
    Mon May 25 2009 10:36:46
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    Hi,

    I would make sure that everyone in the building is aware of the bed bug issue, use the neighbourhood newsletters on bedbugbeware.com and see how much he enjoys everyone doing the correct thing which is to all deal with the issue at the same time and as a complete building.

    Oddly enough this strategy will ultimately work in his favour, the building will be bed bug free and he will know that if any other outbreaks occur it will be because those occupants brought them in and therefore they can deal with them.

    It can be an overwhelming experience for landlords as it is for people who own hotels. They often think its an isolated issue to a few apartments or rooms until we really start looking at the issue. A good bed bug specialist knows hand inspection of the whole area is often the only solution but keeping on top of things and early detection is the only way to make sure things don't get out of hand.

    I also see the other side where landlords are on top of it but the tenants think its a show on MTV that they can just turn over when they are bored. Its an odd world out there.

    David Cain
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  6. KillerQueen

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    Posted 10 years ago
    Mon May 25 2009 12:02:22
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    Right on David!!!

    I spoke with this landlord, did 1 "quick" inspection in the building and even did another treatment for half my normal price (kind of like an introductory offer). By the end of 2 conversations with the land lord he was calling me saying “hey, how is my new favorite bed bug exterminator?". He wanted me to train the current company with regard to bed bug treatments. NOT! He also wanted me to do consulting with another company he had working 5 other buildings for rats. NOT!

    After speaking with me, he wanted me... but without the price tag. I will not under cut my price or the industry for that matter for land lords not willing to pay the cost to get anything done properly. I wish other companies would not do cut throat pricing. When properly trained and paid right we are invaluable. It would really level the playing field and things would get done the right way by competent PMP's.

    The current PCO was telling me if you want the building you can have it. He was getting something like $50.00 monthly to treat 10 or so apartments for general pest control. I told him, friend, I’m no threat, I wouldn’t drive by and wave for 50.00 a month. Imagine trying to drive to the location then park in NYC, climbing 5 or six flights of stairs, treating each apartment with the best products on the market, truly solving people’s pest problems, and walking out of the building to a 35.00 dollar parking ticket. After salary, operation costs, chemicals, what is left for the company profit? NOTHING!

    As soon as PMP’s learn that they are worth more than they charge, maybe people will get better service, and landlords will understand it pays to do things the right way from day 1.

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    Posted 10 years ago
    Mon May 25 2009 12:43:58
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    He is just so incredibly frustrating to deal with. After all the stress the bb bring, having to argue with a LL about this is so... overwhelming. I feel defeated. He is claiming that his PCO inspected the other apartments and found nothing. He keeps repeating that I should never have committed him to compensating me (I never did!). He's being overly aggressive and accusatory and just generally... mean.

    The only bright side about this is my father is a lawyer, and I've just forwarded him all the emails that have been going between myself and my LL (I'm refusing to do anything over the phone with him these days). Not sure if my dad can help me at all, but it makes me feel better to think there's someone on my side about this.

  8. OutOutDarnBugs

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    Posted 10 years ago
    Mon May 25 2009 12:49:49
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    Thanks, David. The problem really is, as KQ said, he doesn't want to pay the money to have someone come and do a really good inspection. His PCO was in and out of here, supposedly checking 9 units, in under 3 hours. And he didn't find anything... gee.

    What the LL is trying to do is make me feel like my apartment is an isolated problem, and that this is my fault. He keeps sending in his exterminator who isn't finding anything, so obviously I'm bringing them in from somewhere. Nevermind that my life is in plastic bags and that there have been 5 units (out of 10) that have had known cases in the past year.

  9. KillerQueen

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    Posted 10 years ago
    Mon May 25 2009 13:22:09
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    Question OutOutDarnBugs,

    I remember him telling me something about paying me for something but I can't recall the details what for. I told him, I don't want the money, and if you, (him) want to do the right thing, give the money to you. Did that ever happen?

  10. OutOutDarnBugs

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    Posted 10 years ago
    Mon May 25 2009 14:03:34
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    He allowed me to take the money that I paid you out of my next rent check. But that was it.


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