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Small infestation in summer apt. How to avoid taking them home?

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  1. AintComingHomeWithMe

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    Hi, all. I wish I didn't need to be here, but I'm glad this resource exists.

    I live in the Rocky mountains but my husband has a contractor job in the midwest for the summer. Three weeks ago we moved into a studio apartment in Ohio and on Sunday we found two live bedbugs.

    I told the apartment manager immediately and they called a large national pest control company to come out and spray my apartment and the surrounding apartments, the first application of which was completed yesterday. The PCO is coming back in 10-14 days. The infestation seems small and I have my fingers crossed we got to it before it had a chance to spread, but I'm still understandably concerned.

    A few details that may be relevant: My mattress is isolated but on the floor and I already had an encasement on it (bought at home and put on the mattress before we left). The rest of the furniture I don't care about. I'm pretty sure their nest was in the bedroom closet (I have a photo but it's not great and the nest has since been treated) and we are leaving the closet bare now. I've been visually inspecting everything but some things are hard to visually inspect. I put a bunch of stuff in plastic bags in the car before I read here that it's not a good idea -- this has happened very fast and there is A LOT of contradictory info out there. Now the bags in the middle of the floor with a (probably too thick) ring of DE around them.

    My husband doesn't appear to be allergic to the bites and I have a very mild reaction, making them easy to miss. We have two cats who are here with us in the apartment and are coming home at the end of the summer.

    The PCO seemed to be doing a slap-dash job to me, but he did spray the nest and the closet well. Hopefully it's enough.

    My biggest concern is not taking the bed bugs home with me to the mountains, after my husband's contract is over. I've decided the best way to do this is to buy a heater like a Packtite or similar and treating everything as I pack the car. All the reviews for the heaters are old, though, and I'm not even sure if they make the basic Packtite anymore? People on Amazon complained A LOT about it not working correctly. Is the Zappbug effective? Or are their new products out there?

    I also want to monitor for bed bugs in the apartment, in my car, and in my house back home, especially because the bites aren't obvious on us. What product is best for that?

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    Posted 2 years ago
    Thu Jun 29 2017 8:14:23
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    Ugh, I apparently posted this in the wrong subforum. Can a mod move it to the correct place? Sorry about that.

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    Fri Jun 30 2017 8:40:38
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    I bought a Packtite SC that should be here next week. Still not sure what to do about detecting them.

    I'm getting bit more since the treatment, but from what I've read that's normal. They are biting my face. I'm not terribly allergic but it's still awful.

    I'm about to go on a 4 day trip for a wedding. Should I wash my sheets before I go or leave them on the bed? I'm not going to have a chance to wash them the night we get back.

    I think someone may have taken a possibly infested nightstand we put out in the dumpster. We should have destroyed it, but have been trying to do everything so fast... Should I tell the apartment management?

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    Fri Jun 30 2017 9:03:33
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    Here's the picture of where I think the worst of the infestation was. This is in the closet. Larger version: http://imgur.com/a/aQ6um

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    Fri Jun 30 2017 11:23:43
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    Hi,

    Aspects of that image are more roach dropping like than bed bugs. While they are easy to mistake to the untrained eye roach droppings tend to be more irregular and angular in shape.

    I think you may still need to confirm this with an image of samples or cast skins or eggs.

    Hope that helps.

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    Fri Jun 30 2017 11:31:44
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    I found two live adult bed bugs on Sunday. I don't have photos of them and those particular individuals have since been killed and disposed of down the drain, but they were 100% bed bugs, looked like this: http://citybugs.tamu.edu/files/2010/04/bedbug1.jpg

    I'm not a professional but I actually really like most non-biting insects and arthropods, and I'm pretty good at identifying them with the help of google. The only bugs that look similar to bed bugs are bat bugs and I'm in an apartment building so that's unlikely.

    I'm sorry the photo I posted isn't great, I found it RIGHT before the exterminator showed up on Wednesday and had to snap a photo quick.

    I know I've got bed bugs (they are biting me at night), I'm just looking for feedback on my teatment methods and how to detect going forward

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    Fri Jun 30 2017 11:44:24
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    Hi,

    Bites never = bed bugs.

    I am sorry that you seem to view my post as challenging, I am responding to the image you posted and trying to give you the benefit of a considerable amount of experience in this subject.

    David

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    Fri Jun 30 2017 11:51:34
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    I'm sorry, I'm not meaning to be belligerent, I'm just stressed out. Honestly you guys are saints for your patience with all these anxious people.

    I did find two live adults and I am extremely confident in my ID. I don't have photos of them to prove it.

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    Hi,

    I appreciate it was not intentional, this may help:

    http://www.bed-bugs.co.uk/anxiety

    The reality is that I understand the stress of this issue more than most having been at the front line for over 12 years.

    I am not saying you did not see 2 bugs or that they may or may not be bed bugs. I am responding tot he image which to me is roach droppings. As odd as this may be, I am literally a specialist on the droppings of bed bugs and I have an archive of images over 19,500 in total.

    There is also the reality that for this level of faecal had it been bed bugs we would not be talking about 1 or 2 samples and for various other reasons there would also need to be eggs and cast skins. The eggs would most likely be in this image and the cast skins close or on the floor below.

    The image below will show you a similar situation/location and what the signs look like:

    Slide5 by David Cain, on Flickr

    While at an initial level they appear similar, the reality is at the finer detail level the two images start to separate into different classes because at the detail level they differ.

    To some extent this is like looking at fine art or fine wine, without time and practice the fakes are harder to spot. However, in this case unless you work in the field you would need to be very unlucky to get enough experience to develop the eye for the detail that is needed.

    Hope that makes sense and please read that link so you can appreciate I do understand how bed bugs can subvert people who would normally be a lot more logical.

    David

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    Sat Jul 1 2017 9:52:20
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    I'm wondering, do these images look more like bed bug spore?

    http://imgur.com/a/A5USl

    http://imgur.com/a/9EQyt

    It's honestly a good thing if that big "nest" isn't bed bugs, because it was large! At the same time, I really want to find where they are hiding and kill the buggers.

    It's a small infestation and so I've not found much in the way of cast skins or anything. But you really can't argue with two live adults as evidence they are there. We are SO LUCKY we found those adults when we did. Thank god for my non-observant husband actually being observant for once! (He thought it was a tick at first.)

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    Hi,

    The first image again is not bed bugs and much more indicative of roach. If they are in a kitchen or bathroom you can discount bed bugs completely.

    The second image is also not bed bug but is more typical of fly droppings. You will find some images of these on my FlickR feed of example images that are mistaken for bed bug faecal.

    I hope you can appreciate and will have figured out my reading some of the static content of this site such as the FAQs that bed bugs tend to leave faecal close to where people rest. Therefore if you are not finding faecal in the frame of the beds or the seats its unlikely to be an established infestation.

    We also have a 100% confirm first rule around here because it will always be the right thing to do. We have had cases go on for years before finally being confirmed as not bed bugs.

    David


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