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  1. Badbadbugs

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    To begin with, my family annd I were on quite the vacation this past summer.

    We first went to England, as we do every year.
    We then went to Saudi Arabia for the first time.
    Lastly, we visited Pakistan (hellhole) for 9 days.
    I have no doubt that there were bed bugs there and that that is where they followed us back home to Florida.

    I first noticed getting a few subtle bites on my toes and ankles.
    I didn't think much of it and carried on living carelessly.
    A few weeks later, I noticed that I was getting awful, awful bumps on my legs and arms and pretty much allll over my body.
    That could have been a rash with bites mixed in.
    I went to the dermatologist 4 times during that time and received no answer to this mysterious rash.
    Its a mystery though, a few weeks before we left for vacation, my mom was getting hives and such.
    We can now identify them as bed bugs bites.
    But my dad wasnt getting them, only my mom.
    When we came back from vacation, thats when I began getting bitten as well.
    One day we found a BB body.
    My older brother said he saw a video about bed bugs on the discovery channel.
    So my entire family sat around the computer while my brother, father, and I Googled this creature that we least expected to encounter in our lifetime.

    This was about 2 months in that we finally identified what was going about leaving us those horrible marks and itchy spots.
    I threw out a ton of small things here and there all over my room and insisted my parents and siblings to the same.
    I sweeped all over the house since we found out about them.
    We thought we werent dealing with a major problem and that the few we find may be the only one in that area.

    We went through my mom's matress and found hundreds in the seams.
    It was ridiculous and disgusting.
    After hours of searching and killing, we decided to simply toss the mattress.
    We bought a new one soon after, but my mom still gets a few bug bites a night.
    Its weird though, my dad hasnt been getting bitten as often.
    In the beginning, he used to get bitten by his ankles, but he hasn't reported anything since.
    Both my dad and older brother are patient and really easy going and tolerant.
    My older brother is 16 and I am 15.
    His bed is a compact twin bed with a wooden headboard and foot board.
    Joined is a set of drawers and the headboard has shelves too.
    He ha been getting bitten every night.
    He once one up in the midst of the night and immediately noticed that around his leg there were about 40 bigs huddled together.
    He got up, wrapped up his sheets and placed it on the floor.
    Being the older sibling, he never listens to me.
    My mom seemed to freak out more in response to my brother's incident than she did with mine over these many months.
    The next day she went out to Home Depot and bought about 5 cans of bed bug killing sprays and whatnot.
    We went in his room and sprayed his entire bed.
    I cant begin to tell you how astonished I was when i witnessed how many there were and how they moved a bed.
    It was probably the most horrendous thing i had ever witnessed.
    Before that day, I hadnt been getting bites for a while.
    After spraying my brother's room with my parents, I showered and changed my clothes.
    But still, the next morning I woke up with a number of bites.
    And ever since (its been about a month since) iv been getting bitten every night at least a few times.
    My parents honestly dont take me seriously enough.
    I read about these nasty pests every day, hoping and praying that Ill come across an ideal solution that wont seem far fetched to my parents and will work.
    We had a Pest control company come about 3 weeks ago.
    They sprayed the mattresses and left some sort of power on the mattresses as well.
    That do the jod at all.
    I found 3 bugs in the bathroom that my brother and I share.
    They still lurk about in his room but he sleeps in my little brother's room now.
    And the other night I suddenly woke up after being bit on my cheek.It was running across my pillow. when i got a tissue and killed it, blood gushed out.
    I hate this I hate this I hate this.
    Im going to a boarding school in England next year.(By my own free will)
    Im going to study my religion and finish my school there too.
    Im looking forward to it, but Im afraid that if I take even one with me, Ill have to live with this problem there too.
    And the fact that there are over 500 other students in the school too makes me feel even worse.
    My parents wont be there for me to complain to and make them get the room treated.
    Moreover, we are planning to move to a smaller house, we need to downsize big time.
    None my family members are as freak as I am about the spread of these things.
    i don't use the same blankets or sit on anyone's bed unless its been thoroughly cleaned.
    I implement everything I read about them and try not to disturb them too much so they dont disperse until they're finally treated properly.

    Iv looked into all these different sorts of treatments and Im so confused.
    Im obviously easily fooled by all these offers and companies.

    Yesterday I swept and mopped my room's floors (they're hardwood, by the way. All throughout the entire house).I scrutinized every angle of my mattress and sprin box but didn't find a single bug or spec or anything. And that same night I was bitten again and actually found the BB.

    Most of the bed rooms are upstairs and itll be a pain moving things, but if it has to be done, then im more than ready to do whatever it takes to sleep in peace.
    My dad says that maybe we can get those freezer trucks and leave the furniture in there for a few days and while all the furniture is out, the walls and whatnot can be treated even more thoroughly.

    Im sure Im not crazy.
    Im extremely concerned and this is constantly on my mind, day and night.

    I want to hear everyone's opinions regarding what worked for them or just anything they know about a BB case.

    Thatd be really helpful.
    I never thought that something like this could literally get me on my knees.
    I hate this whole thing.
    Truly.

    Thank you!

  2. BugsInTO

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    So sorry to hear about your bedbugs. For your age, you are coping very well. People here with full autonomy can't manage bedbugs easily, and you don't have control because of you are a minor living with your parents.

    Only way I can relate to this situation is to think of your family as being like all our families and roommates - some get "it", some don't, some are in denial, some don't react to bites etc. Look for information you can print out and give to them to help them understand better.

    You don't have the option to move out until next year, so please read the FAQ's. If your parents got a professional PCO, see if it came with a guarantee, and maybe they can be brought back.

    From your perspective, focus on isolating your room. Caulk your room, and encase your mattress - if you can get your parents to go for the proper encasements, that would be best - but even the vinyl encasement used carefully with some duct tape might be able to seal your mattress (I've heard they rip really easily.)

    Stay in touch and let us know how you are getting on.

    Good Luck

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    Read all the FAQs you can. It sounds like with the quantities y'all have found you have a pretty bad infestation going on.

    Iv looked into all these different sorts of treatments and Im so confused.
    Im obviously easily fooled by all these offers and companies.

    A good PCO needs to assess your home and determine the proper course of action.

    Different things can work depending the situation.

    Know that 91% alcohol is a instant cheap contact killer and keep it handy in a spray bottle. Wooden floors? Murphy's oil soap is also a contact killer.

    Nothing you do in one room is going to cure this problem but it isn't hopeless.

    One thing you posted concerns me,

    They sprayed the mattresses and left some sort of power on the mattresses as well.
    That do the jod at all.

    What powder did they leave on the mattress? I am not a PCO but no powdered pesticide I have seen should be used that way. That goes for Diatomaceous Earth as well.

    His bed is a compact twin bed with a wooden headboard and foot board.
    Joined is a set of drawers and the headboard has shelves too.

    That bed sounds like a haven for bugs.

    You can always ask who in your area of Florida has had success with a PCO for leads.

    Jim

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    oh dear, I wasnt sure if anyone would reply to my post.
    But thank you so much.

    And yes, Im urging my parents to toss out my brother's bed bug haven of a bed.

    A few days ago, my dad bought a steamer.
    We steamed and i found a few burnt, dead bugs on the floor during clean up.
    However,I woke up that morning and found one crawling across my bed headed to the area where my pillow is located.I squashed it and again, blood gushed out.

    Im beginning to lose hope. Im a hopeful person, but this is too much.
    my dad is far more understanding than my mom.
    My mom thinks you can just toss the matress and your problem is solved.
    She was raised in the higher class of society as a child, but she's pretty down to earth.
    So shes expecting a magic treatment that'll just instantly solve the problem.
    i wouldnt say this is a SEVERE infestation becuase Im constantly vacuuming.
    But Im only one person.

    My dad and I were discussing about calling Orkin.
    After several treatments, do you think that can work?

    Someone pleasepleaseplease tell me its possible to eradicate these pests completely.

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    Yes you can eradicate them, but your parents must be on board. I don't want to scare you, but you do NOT have a small infestation, it sounds like you have a very bad infestation. Many people on this board have only seen one or two bugs, some have not even seen one. There are knowledgable people in your state, tell your father to please read this board. Call Orkin, call at least 3 or more other pest control companies and see who has experience in bed bugs. Have your father ask them the questions listed in the FAQ to ask Pest Control People. If you get a knowledgable person, you can indeed get rid of them, but if your parents continue to ignore the seriousness of this situation, your problem is going to be dramatically harder to eradicate. You can also find out about thermal (it is where a company brings in big special heaters and they bake the bugs dead), it might be just about as cost effective as hiring Orkin and you wouldn't have to get rid of much stuff.
    You are one brave,smart young lady, keep up the good work!

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    Capture some bugs to show the PCO and get one in there. If you and your family do all the proper things and followups in conjunction with the PCO treatments, you will get rid of these evil little vampires.

    A steamer is an excellent weapon to use on them since the heat also kills the eggs.

    The BB war is not easy but it is winnable.

    Jim

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    badbadbugs,
    I applaud your courage! I'm an adult and almost had a meltdown when I had my infestation.Here's what I would do...Have your parents read the FAQ's on this site(there are many things that need to be done so you don't spread the bugs around schoool,office,wherever), do you live in a house or apt. building?(if apt. your parents should inform the management as well as adjoining neighbors of the problem so that they can look for and treat easier.) If a private house then your parents need to call in a professional WITH bb experience.If your parents are reluctant to hire a proffessional,I would talk to a guidance counselor or similar at your school to talk to them on your behalf,it could be they are just not listening to how badly this is affecting you.Good luck and keep us posted.

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    badbadbugs,

    I did not catch where you are, but the best idea might be to tell us your city. Longtimers here might be able to recommend a company nearby that they used.

    Large national or international companies can be a good choice, but they can also vary from place to place. Of course, in ANY PCO firm, the quality may vary from one tech to another.

    If you don't want to say where you are, you can PM me with this information and I can try to help you find the relevant threads. I would not personally recommend a company I have not used, but I may be able to help you find the relevant discussions about your area.

    I started and run the site but am "not an expert."
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    Thank you so much.
    i really appreciate the encouragement and concern.

    My parents are beginning to get the idea, once theyve seen a few downstairs and in random places of the house.

    I live in a two story home.
    Its rather large, which is so why Im so worried.
    There are 4 bedrooms upstairs, one downstairs.5 in total.
    There are two bathrooms upstairs and one downstairs.3 in total.

    My parents are taking me more seriously now and have agreed that this is a serious problem and needs to be treated immediately.

    No matter what i do or how happy I should be, this burden of knowing that there are blood-sucking bugs in my home makes me feel like nothing matters.

    Iv gone through the whole house throwing out things that arent so necessary to have and only cause clutter.

    Thats the only bright side I can find to this bed bug thing: I tossed out everything that isnt essential.
    Oh and another one: i guess its testing my patience and seeing if I will breakdown or handle the situation rationally.

    My brothers have bed bugs in their rooms, for sure.
    But they dont react to the bites. Whereas I immediately get the itchy hives and the whole deal.

    my parents understand the problem, but dont seem to be thinking about it all the time, like i am. They dont seem like they believe this totally effects their lives and isnt a problem that just disappears as time prolongs.
    They know how the bugs continue to resproduce, but I guess its just such a huge deal that its hard to accept that its such a problem.
    In this day and age, we feel so confident when we're up against nature.
    But these bugs are proving us wrong and taking the driving wheel.
    A very scary thought.

    I live in Florida.
    Can someone please help find out what pest control companies are known to have experience with bed bugs and provide service in Florida?

    Thank you again, so much.

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    ** and to eliminate the cause of clutter

    Sorry about all the typos!

    Im just so exhausted

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    BBB, it is very overwhelming as you fight these things but just remember there is a victory in your future over these beasts.

    There is a BB specialist down there that was donating work to a destitute family and posted on here. So there is at least one BB specialist there in Florida. In fact there is a training facility for K9s down there so take heart.

    Jim

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    Thats a good to thing to hear.

    Last night it took me a while to gather my guts and shut my eyes.
    Surprisingly I didnt get any bites.
    But thats not assuring, they must be napping.lol.

    If you can find that post, please give me link if you can.

    And my family is huge on hygiene (plus my dad has allergies), so I think the k9 would be a last resort for sure.

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    Sorry to hear about your dilemma, but know that you are not alone. In Cincinnati where I live we have a bed bug hotline b/c so many people have them. Bedbugs can be even in clean homes, b/c i am a clean freak and have had them. The first time I had them I basically threw away most of my possessions including my bed and moved, and I didn't see a bedbug for almost three years. Then last year I found some in the seam of my new mattress and the battle ensued again. Some things that have helped me:

    1. get everyone in your family on board and clear away clutter (if you don't use it, lose it)

    2. if you can salvage your bed, buy some mattress encasements (Wal-Mart has them, they zip up and encase the entire mattress)

    3. invest in a steaming unit and steam your entire house (cracks, crevices, books, furniture, bed frames, etc.)

    4. wash anything washable in hot water and dry on high heat for 60 min.

    5. Don't go crazy on sprays - hot steam kills bedbugs and their eggs! Most sprays only kill the bugs, and many bedbugs become resistant to them over time anyway.

    6. You might want to consider using diatomaceous earth. It acts like tiny razors when the bedbugs walk across it, it cuts their body and dehydrates them and they die. But buy the food grade kind.

    The whole process is long and arduous but it can be done. I know b/c I'm doing it right now. You might want to steam your house monthly as a preventative measure. It is an ongoing process and will not be accomplished overnight. Also you might want to wash all clothing and linens and store them in closed containers until your house is de-bugged. Good luck and take heart. You are not alone!

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    BadBadBugs

    In Florida, Vikane gas treatment might be a reasonable option to eliminate your infestation.

    You already have physical evidence that has established the presence of the infestation. If you choose Vikane as a treatment approach... then a K9 inspection would not be required to facilitate a good result since the whole house would be treated with a tent in a single application.

    We are located in Safety Harbor, Florida

    Send a PM to me with your location & I will try to assist you.

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    badbadbugs, your family might want to consider Vikane, they would have to tent the whole house but you have a big house. It is expensive but worth it, the other choice besides chemicals is to have thermal heat treatment done. If it were me, I would call Doug above, he is a long time contributor on this board and has a ton of knowledge. (if your parents might be embarrased to have the house tented, they could always tell neighbors they are treating for termites)

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    A proper Vikane treatment for BBs will kill termites as well. BB killing dosage is 3X or more the dosage for termites.

    Jim

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    Thank you Doug.

    However, my dad called Orkin today and they will be coming in tomorrow morning.

    I had to take my FCAT test today.
    Huge test.
    I couldnt sleep all night cause I woke up in the middle of the night and found a bug on my sheets, next to my pillow.
    After that, I had a hard time shutting my eyes.
    I went to the bathroom and found one on the floor next to my brother's clothes that he left on the floor.
    Absolutely disgusted, I didnt eat breakefast.
    I told my parents, they still dont fully get it.
    I left for the bus, furious and crying.

    All I could think about during my test were the bugs.
    Theyre ruining my life.
    After seeing how I left home for the bus angry and tearing, thay were probably more motivated toward calling Orkin.

    I have a few question now.
    So its either Orkin or Vikane.
    The problem is mainly upstairs, cause thats where most of the bedrooms in the house are located.
    But we're getting downstairs treated too.

    What are everyone's opinions on Orkin?

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    Oh, I feel so bad for you, going through this and handling school work and that huge test! You are obviously a very smart, intelligent young lady so I'm sure you will do well on the test, inspite of the bedbugs.
    Orkin has local franchises, some are wonderful, some are not ...you need to check the local BBB for how they are rated in your area. I know some on this board have used them in certain areas and been pleased. In my area of Texas they scored an F on the BBB, (this is only the local one, not indicative of other ones in other areas (read owned by other franchisees they score A's, etc). Check here to see find the Better Business burea ratings for your area, go here and then click on South and find your section of Florida and check them out. http://www.bbb.org/us/find-a-bbb/
    Have you read how to isolate your bed? You can isolate your bed so they will not get on your bed, at least you can sleep in peace. It is found in the FAQ under isolating your bed....I think you deserve to sleep bed bug free. Here is the direct link to isolating your bed http://bedbugger.com/2006/11/02/faq-how-do-i-protect-my-bed-from-bed-bugs-part-i/

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    Badbadbugs - 1 hour ago  » 

    So its either Orkin or Vikane.
    The problem is mainly upstairs, cause thats where most of the bedrooms in the house are located.
    But we're getting downstairs treated too.
    What are everyone's opinions on Orkin?

    Seems perhaps you misunderstand something. Vikane is not a company, it is a chemical used in whole structure fumigation and may very well be an option Orkin offers as a treatment.

    Jim

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    [quote]
    Orkin has local franchises, some are wonderful, some are not ...you need to check the local BBB for how they are rated in your area. I know some on this board have used them in certain areas and been pleased. In my area of Texas they scored an F on the BBB, (this is only the local one, not indicative of other ones in other areas (read owned by other franchisees they score A's, etc). Check here to see find the Better Business burea ratings for your area, go here and then click on South and find your section of Florida and check them out.

    Thank you!
    I checked the BBB for the Orkin franchise that will be coming tomorrow. They were rated an A.

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    Jim, I understand the Vikane is a chemical.
    My understanding of it was still pretty vague, so thank you clarifying that for me.

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    During treatment, some people isolate and some do not. The problem with isolating the bed is that it's difficult to keep it that way, and it's difficult to know when the bugs are truly gone. Whether you decide to isolate (more than just good mattress/box encasement) I would wait until the PCO comes for inspection first and see what he/she thinks. They may or may not want to to isolate fully and they may want to treat the mattress and box before encasements are put on. (that's if you chose the traditional treatment options over vikane fumigation of the home and vehicles)

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    Thank you all.

    Here's an update.

    Orkin came over yesterday for our 1st treatment.

    The worker was about 45-50 years old and said he has 15 years of experience with pest services.

    He took about 2 hours treating everything and spraying all over the house.

    I was at school, but I told my mom to watch closely beforehand, and give me a detailed description of everything he did during the treatment.

    When I got home, I was pleased with what I heard.
    He was pretty thorough, and said he's seen a lot worse.

    I guess all the vacuuming and de-cluttering we did helped?

    By 8pm yesterday I found a few dead on the floor in almost every room.

    One thing that concerned me with my mom's report was that she didnt mention him steaming anything at all.
    So I called up Orkin and spoke to their service manager.
    He was a nice guy who spoke confidently about bed bug treatment and answered all my questions.
    I asked him about the Orkin guy who came and why he didnt steam anything.
    The Service Manager said "Its funny you ask. I was just discussing that with one of the employees". He says their entomologist recently told them not to use steam for bed bug treatment. He said that for infestations and bugs that you cant see, the steam simply makes the bugs scatter and find new hiding places if it doesnt kill them.

    So I asked how theyre supposed to destroy the eggs.
    He said that basically the best way is to stay on top of this case by coming back every 10-14 days and spraying again to kill the new batch of eggs and remaining adult bugs.
    Theyll continue doing this until the bugs are completely eradicated.
    They already had us schedule another day for the 2nd treatment.

    I didnt get any bites last night, thank God.

    My brothers each have their own computer chairs, and Iv noticed that both are heavily infested with baby bed bugs.

    Its like the nest for all the babies.

    I think its better to just throw the chairs out.
    They were pretty expensive becuase theyre rather large,executive office chairs.
    But If they need to be thrown out, then Im okay with it.
    Im just sick of these bugs ruling my life.
    I dont feel like a normal kid with these bugs having a part in my life.

    What do you guys think?
    Should we toss the chairs out?

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    Glad to hear progress is being made. Call and ask if the chairs were sprayed.

    A spray bottle with 91% alcohol will ruin their day if the chairs were not treated. Be sure to keep an eye out and let the PCO know where you sighted them.

    Heck if you see lots of active nymphs he may make a special trip over to slay them.

    Jim

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    Hey thanks.

    Ill have to call tomorrow, I was so busy today I couldnt even get on the computer.

    "A spray bottle with 91% alcohol will ruin their day if the chairs were not treated. "

    ?

    I havnt seen many nymphs lately.
    Just a lot of older ones.

    And I have bad news.
    It was just that once night ater treatment day that I slept in peace.
    This morning I woke up this about 4 bites on the area between my shoulder and neck.
    It really made me mad and OCD about everything again.

    Just when I thought everything was going to be okay.

    Its like 3:45am and I cant sleep.
    I feel like theres a bug on me every minute Im in my bed.
    And right before I got in bed, i found a BB on the wall of my closet too.
    It was an adult.
    I didnt find anymore, but Im not liking this at all.

    Is it normal for the bugs to still be this present after the treatment.
    Maybe the Orkin guy missed a spot?

    Do you think I should call and have them come over tomorrow as well?

    Its a Saturday and Ill be home, so I can closely watch how he treats everything.

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    Many folks report seeing an increase in activity right after treatments. It may take several treatments to win

    If you get a spray bottle with 91% alcohol in it and spray a bug, regardless nymph or adult, it dies. It is the most readily available cheap contact killer.

    I'm no pro but many people fight this war without ever seeing a bug and you have stated many many sightings so it stands to reason your infestation is larger than typical.

    Talk to the PCO and report all sightings.

    Jim

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    Thanks.

    I woke up last night, itching.

    I looked around for the bug.
    Right before I was going to gather my guts and go back to sleep, I found it on the seem of my shirt on my shoulder.

    It was a nymph and it was filled with blood.
    I got alcohol, pured some on it, and it died instantly.

    Orkin said they'll come over on Tuesday again.
    I couldnt take it anymore, so I lifted my box spring and bed and vacuumed them both.
    The PCO dude obviously didnt spray the box properly, so I vaccumed inside it.

    One thing I dont understand is no matter how much deep cleaning I do, I dont find them.
    I understand that they are excellent hiders, but I took off the covers for the electrical outlets and vacuumed them with a really powerful vacuum and still didnt find anything. No bugs, so feces marks, no eggs.

    The PCO also told my mom that "this case isnt really as bad as your daughter thinks it is. Iv seen worse. Your's is not severe at all".

    He also told my mom that my dresser doesnt have to be sprayed.
    And I found a nymph at the corner of one of the drawers.
    So this guy needs to do the job to the best of his ability or he needs to go.

    They are only feces marks on my mattress.
    And there arent that many.
    Im pretty OCD, so Im always vacuuming and moving things around.
    My brothers arent even bothered by the bugs becuase they dont react to their bites.
    Their mattresses have feces marks, a lot of them.

    Im going to make sure the Orkin pest control supervisor dude comes with the other guy for the next treatment.

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    do you have encasements on the beds? And are you vacuuming dust out of crevices and outlets?

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    If you found nymphs in the dresser it needs addressing.

    Based on your descriptions, which is all anyone can go by, you got bugs bad.

    People often can't find a single piece of evidence and seems you can't find anywhere without. Just the fact your brothers chairs are,

    both are heavily infested with baby bed bugs.

    Its like the nest for all the babies.

    Speaks volumes about your infestation levels.

    Jim

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    I asked the service manager for Orkin about encasements and if they sell them or provide them with the treatment.
    He said that thats 'eh' covering up the problem becuase if it tears, you've got an even bigger problem.
    He said its a good preventive measure, but not if you've got an infestation at hand.

    This is everything I dont want to hear, Jim.
    But thanks for telling me. I need to keep pinching myself through this to make sure Im not having a horrible nightmare.

    We called Orkin, im so lost.
    What next?

    Vikane treatment for the entire structure is too 'out there'.

    There has to be another way.
    Jim, did you have bed bugs and get rid of them?
    Im losing hope :\

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    Yes we got rid of them.

    Encasements are a debatable thing but many folks use them. He is right and wrong based on what he said. If you encase your mattress and box spring you capture a population and it never tears you starve them to death. If all other bugs in the house have been killed over time then the encasement tears you get reinfested.

    If they never tear it is a beautiful thing.

    Did you read up on isolating your bed?

    See what happens on their revisit and especially ask about why furniture with bugs, your dresser, "doesn't need to be sprayed".

    Are they using any pesticide dusts?

    Jim

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    Badbedbugs,

    This may seem a crazy question, but when you vacuum things up, do you remove the vacuum bag and put it in a sealed ziplock and throw it away? (Or if the vacuum is bagless, do you toss the contents of the vacuum into a ziplock and throw that away?) Bed bugs can survive a trip into the vacuum, so you have to get rid of the bag/contents of the container in the bagless vacuum or else what you vacuumed up will just crawl out.

    Next up: encasements. Some people use them; some people don't. It really depends on how the PCO is treating. From your report on what the PCOs said, I would take heart that you haven't encased. I think given what you've said so far, you're better off not encasing the beds in your house. (Or at least, not anyone other than yours. You might want to try isolating your bed to allow you to get a decent night's sleep or two. But in order for encasements to work, you have to keep those encasements absolutely free of rips, or you go back to square one. If your brothers aren't bothered by bites, I wouldn't trust them to tell your parents if their encasements ripped, and, well, you get the idea.)

    Lastly: on steam. The steam you need to kill bed bugs has to be very, very hot. Not many steamers get that hot, and many that do leave a lot of moisture behind. Add that to FL's humid climate, and you could end up with a big mold problem, which, if your dad is allergic to mold, could make a really big problem.

    More importantly, the steam can reduce or eliminate the effectiveness of the chemicals that the PCOs put down to kill the bugs. Steaming is one way to treat bugs, and a very effective way, but it's not the only effective way and is very labor intensive. Many PCOs don't use it.

    From what you've described, the PCOs seem to be following a plan of action that could work. Give it a little more time and a few more treatments before you panic. I know that's easy to say and totally hard to do, but just hang in there a little longer.

    Jim had bugs, and with a lot of hard work, he got rid of them. I also had bugs, and with very little hard work, I got rid of them. (My apartment was treated with thermal, which means that professionals brought in big propane heaters they set up in the driveway to pipe hot air into the apartment to bake the place for hours.) I still don't have encasements on my box spring, but I do on my mattress, although I didn't put it on until I'd been bed bug free for months.

    There are a lot of different effective ways to treat; the plan your PCO is using sounds from what you've described like it could work effectively. I vividly remember how freaked out I was on the day the PCOs came to treat my house, and I vividly remember how terrified I was that it wasn't going to work and that I would be responsible for the bugs moving to my neighbors' apartments, but the professionals knew what they were talking about, and they treated my place, and then the bugs were gone, and nobody else got them. It can happen. Now that your parents are on board and brought pros in, you've got a good shot. I know it doesn't feel like it right now, but it will get better. Just hang in there.

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    Jim, The PCO man called today. He said that he couldnt spray the dresser becuase there were things on it and clothes in it.

    He assured me that he'd be bringing the service manager with him on Wednesday when he treats again.
    And he said if the service manager cant come for whatever reason, he will personally make sure everything is turned over and that we are 100% satisfied until the next treatment.

    When I mentioned the service manager, it sounded like he smiled as though they are really good friends and he said "Yeah, John (Service Manager) was really concerned when he got your phone call the other day. Hes a great guy and he really wants you to be satisfied with the job."

    That was good to hear, and they both sounded like they knew what they were talking about each time I spoke to them.

    Buggyinsocal- I have a bagless vacuum.
    After each use, I empty it into a bag and hose it down completely.

    Thank you so much! Your post really helped

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    Sounds like it is looking up. Ensure that furniture is empty so they can address it.

    I'm no PCO but I believe a guy treating like this guy descibes on his hotel inspections is gonna be highly successful at slaying bugs.

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    Sorry for the late reply!

    Okay.
    So on Wednesday the PCO came again.

    The following night I saw a lot of bugs out and about.
    I was pretty worried, but I figured that thats normal cause they're coming out because of the pesticide.

    I was right.
    Since Wednesday night, I havnt spotted any bugs and I havnt been bitten either.

    I know we're not out the woods yet and Im not letting my guard down, but Im so relieved that progress is being made.

    Thank you all<3


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