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  1. popgoesabedbug

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    Posted 7 years ago
    Fri Jul 13 2012 2:15:18
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    I had a forum called Maybe the answer as I wrote it from my treatment I was slander, refused freedom of speech which is now legal for the internet as long as it is not illagel acts or the suggestionof one . So your choice to keep posting but beware He will sensor you if he doesnt agree even though he himself is not an expert in bedbugs

  2. bed-bugscouk

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    Fri Jul 13 2012 3:43:46
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    Hi,

    I feel for you bro.

    Many times have I wanted to publish my personal manifesto on bedbugs but just know it would get shot down for not being technically accurate. It's a crazy thing but people around here are sticklers for keeping information accurate, reliable, safe and honest.

    Every once in a while someone cames along with an idea to save the world from CO2 chambers, special robo beds, new organic solutions, special plug in devices, things you put on/under your bed or patches to put on your skin. If you are new you may not have many of them yet but they tend to come around in waves.

    The common ending is that they usually end up having to be explained that if they spent as much time working on proving it can work on multiple sites and bedbug cases in a clear and fully documented way they will be taken seriously.

    There is a wealth of information and expertise on this forum above and beyond any other online resource on bedbugs. Some of the participants are specialist in entomology and pest control from just about every angle, some have written papers, some presented at conferences and public meetings and two of the authors of leading bedbug books are forum participants.

    Yes it may feel at times that the advice you are given is not what you want to hear but the reality is that some have been doing this for a long time and if they offer advice it's best to consider if because it's frankly akin to asking you doctor advice and deciding "you know better".

    One only final point is that our host is female and is actually a very fair person. I have been politely and constructively told off myself on a few occasions and will most likely be again in the future ( maybe even for this post ). But although she has no professional qualifications in entomology or pest control you don't need them to start a blog and put years of online time into helping people. Given that you study for a degree for 3 years and the site has run l think it's easy to see how she could claim at least an advanced knowldge and understanding of the issue.

    I hope you understand this is all meant to be helpful, as I have said before you have enthusiasm and energy but certainly with this thread and some of the argumentative ones I have seen it appears to be misguided at times.

    David Cain
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    I am happy to answer questions in public but will not reply to message sent directly or via my company / social media. I am here to help everyone and not just one case at a time.

    In accordance with the AUP and FTC I openly disclose my vested interest in Passive Monitors as the inventor and patent holder. Since 2009 they have become an integral part in how we resolve bed bug infestations. I also have a professional relationship with PackTite in that they distribute my product under their own branding. I do not however receive any financial remuneration for any comments I make about pro
  3. DougSummersMS

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    Posted 7 years ago
    Fri Jul 13 2012 3:43:57
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    Pop
    Written comments that you don't like are called libel.... not slander.

    You are on a private website... The issue is unsound advice... not freedom of speech.

    It is illegal to use DE in a manner that is not consistent with the label.

    Your assertions are seriously misinformed... You can drown a bed bug in a glass of water.... Many household products will kill them...Cleaning products are not a panacea for bed bug control.

  4. Winston O. Buggy

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    My with a to date two day presence you certainly are attempting to make a splash. Fortunately your comment will most likely be taken for what it is, bed bug waste. This site has served a beleaguered community for years and it has done so for the most part rationally, responsibly and fairly. It has respected the advice of those bed bug aficionados but has remained objective. While not a scientific blog it is intelligently managed with an appreciation for the science behind things. Every now and then some poster poser comes along with a cure, rant, hidden objective or perhaps just issues carried over from another dimension (sometimes pronounced as dementia). If you are here for advice or to share good advice I'm sure you will e welcome, if you come with an agenda, vendetta or any of the aforementioned motives, please take your mouse and go home. Please don't take this personally but there is too little time for negative energy, if you are besieged by bed bugs some allowance can be made, temporarily. Remember it is not responsible to yell bed bug in a crowded theater.

  5. KillerQueen

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    Since its gone public again I'll answer your private message here. Plus a lot of the pros have already commented so I will not go into detail how i have come to my conclusions because again, it's already been said.

    Bottom line - I didn't answer your private message suggesting I look at your treatment method and give you feed back because it's a waste of my time and really anyones for that matter. It's the most rediculous attempt I have ever heard. Maybe a raw steak to draw them out in place of a host could top it .. But really? You're asking a certified commercial pesticide applicator his opinion - what do you think my thoughts will be?

    PS. DE can get went and still continue to work once it dries. Yes, I probably know more about DE then anyone you will meet. I'm certified nationally as a "commercial pool operator" and have extensive knowledge with both pool and food grade DE. I've been working with DE for the better part of 23 years.

    So I can kill your bugs and have your hot tub sparkling clean all at the same time

    Forgive any typos ... On the phone.

  6. AshamedandScratching

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    Fri Jul 13 2012 20:19:49
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    I have never had a problem posting the truth with NoBugs. I find she welcomes the truth.

  7. theyareoutthere

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    I read you original post. It is still up with a disclaimer on it. I'm not an expert but I 100% agree with the disclaimer that Nobugsonme put on it.

    So, Nobugs allowed you to post, but she also made the very good decision to put a disclaimer. The PCOs seemed to support it. As a non-PCO, I support that decision as well.

    Good luck to you. This is a great website. There is a lot of good information on it, and the PCOs and entomologists are very kind to give their time and ID various kind of bugs. Most of the non-experts don't do this since it is so important to be right every time.

    Good luck again!

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    Fri Jul 13 2012 20:53:20
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    Nobugsonme is extremely fair and has demonstrated nothing but patience, commitment and integrity on this forum at all times. She is intelligent, articulate, disciplined and dedicated and devotes countless hours of her own time to help ensure people have access to clear, up-to-date, and reliable information about bedbugs.

    She has provided an effective community for bedbug professionals as well as a safe haven and invaluable resource for bedbug sufferers. She deserves our respect and gratitude.

    -Mindoverbbs

  9. Nobugsonme

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    Fri Jul 13 2012 22:56:06
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    Thanks, everyone, for your kind words and support. It is very much appreciated.

    Pop, as noted above, your post was not deleted. The thread was closed. It appeared that you were attempting to give the thread new life by posting to it yourself after a day had passed. People do this to revive a discussion and make it appear at the top of the forum.

    If you had something new to add, or the discussion had not had any useful responses, I would be more tolerant of this. However, simply trying to promote a thread which the consensus has declared to contain poor advice-- that's something I don't have to allow.

    Furthermore, the first amendment regulates what the government can do, not what private citizens can do. It does not apply to privately owned internet forums.

    So of you want to start a website advocating your treatment methods, the First Amendment assures you the government will not shut it down (unless it pertains to certain kinds of speech which aren't protected.)

    However, the First Amedment does not give you the right to say anything you want on a website which is privately owned.

    That said, I try to delete or alter posts as infrequently as possible. I do value freedom of expression, and dissent, quite obviously, as you're still able to
    post here.

    Please note also that criticisms of your methods of treatment are not "slander" or "libel". They're critiques.

    I started and run the site but am "not an expert."
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    Perhaps we can now nick-name nobugs "hospital" because she has shown a lot of patience in dealing with this situation?

    pb

  11. Nobugsonme

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    P Bello - 9 hours ago  » 
    Perhaps we can now nick-name nobugs "hospital" because she has shown a lot of patience in dealing with this situation?
    pb

    That's funny. Don't like the nickname so much, though.

  12. P Bello

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    Sat Jul 14 2012 10:20:21
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    Well, I was kidding ! ! !

    You'll always be nobugs to me.

    : )

  13. AshamedandScratching

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    Sat Jul 14 2012 10:56:03
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    P Bello - 10 hours ago  » 
    Perhaps we can now nick-name nobugs "hospital" because she has shown a lot of patience in dealing with this situation?

    Punny.

  14. P Bello

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    Sat Jul 14 2012 11:14:05
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    OMG, I'm still laughing at that one ! Thanks A&S, that really is funny or punny ! ! ! pb : )


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