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"invisible mites" question for the experts

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  1. endless_nightmare

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    Posted 6 years ago
    Thu Sep 12 2013 21:09:04

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    As a person that keep from suffering from "bites" skin reaction and that do not have bed bugs anymore. I always do a bit of research about this, mainly on the psychological side, PTSD, anxiety, allergies etc.

    However I stumbled on this site for the first time the other day

    relief from invisible biting mites

    The author claims that invisible biting mites exist, and basically they bite you like bed bugs with a little less intensity, at night, and that no insecticide will kill them.

    He also claims that they are drawn to humidity, and if ones removes a lot of humidity with de-humidifier they will die.

    He claims that the person lying in bed at night is a source of water and that's why they get bitten.

    It's sounds far fetched. But a person with mysterious skin reactions that seem to occur at night cannot help but wonder if there is any truth to this....

    Is he a crackpot that took the time to write this, thinking it was true when in fact it's absolute non-sense.....

    I just wonder how many people read this and actually follow his directions

    Do biting mites that you cannot see exist?
    Does this stuff about humidity make any sense?

    What do the experts think?

    not a PCO
    Spinal Cord Injury Advocacy/Volunteer
  2. bed-bugscouk

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    Posted 6 years ago
    Fri Sep 13 2013 5:06:08

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    The best solution to this sort of issue and this sort of website can be obtained through the use of a "tin foil hat".

    One of the issues here is that its easy to form a hypothesis and test it in a purely illogical non scientific way. For example the last 2 days I have woken up with an almost finished glass of juice on the side of the bed and it has been raining outside. Given that 100% of the time I have not finished my nightly juice it has rained it MUST be the fact that I leave the glass on the side with fluid in it that causes the rain.

    Now this to an outsider will clearly be illogical but after a long time of suffering without finding answers people can be sleep deprived and the logic they produce is not as clear as it could or should be.

    Yes there are some species of mite that while beyond the eye sight range of most people can be found under microscopic analysis of the room. This take professional equipment and the kind of stuff that is way beyond you local "spray and prey PCO operation". The locals may say "there is nothing there its all in your head" when the correct answer is "its beyond what I can detect if it is a mite you may need specialist help from an entomologist.

    However at this stage it needs to be pointed out that there are also other causes such as fibers and allergies or other insects such as Pscocids.

    I am personally yet to find a case that could be confirmed as mysterious biting mites that could not be detected and that although I am not going to rule them out completely I am not going to make them my number 1 suspect.

    In cases where we cant find live samples, cast skins or faecal traces we start to follow an exclusion logic to work out either what we do find or eventually what we fail to find.

    The hard part of all this is that such an approach can only be done on site through investigation and often these "mite pioneers" have gone for the low end of the PCO market and had a bad experience which means they now assume all PCO's are the same (fuzzy logic and sleep deprivation again).

    Only when there is a sanity filter applied to the internet will me be free from "invisible biting mite" sites and footage of the secret Nazi spy base in Antarctica.

    The advice is just not based on any level of science which is a shame because if they did not come across as so rabid there are people out there who can help.

    Hope that helps,

    David Cain
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  3. loubugs

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    Posted 6 years ago
    Fri Sep 13 2013 14:25:45

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    Basically because sensations are identified as being like something is crawling, like something is biting, like something is stinging, that must mean that something is crawling, biting, and/or stinging but it is too small to bee seen. No. Sensations can be sensations. The etiological agent doesn't have to be something that is alive and because you can't find it, doesn't mean that it is small and microscopic. It may not really exist.

    Professional entomologist/arachnologist. I consult on all matters dealing with insects and arachnids, including those of natural history and biology to pest management and forensic entomology investigations.
  4. endless_nightmare

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    Posted 6 years ago
    Fri Sep 13 2013 16:56:42

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    Thank-you David and Lou

    The stuff you read out there.... Spray yourself with Windex and Listerine, etc

    yeah this should indeed be filed under the Tin Foil Hat section

  5. BBNewbie

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    Posted 6 years ago
    Fri Sep 13 2013 19:31:43

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    Loubugs hit the nail on the head. I have to do home visits as part of my profession. Last week I went into a home that had a gallon bottle (with attached sprayer) of Harris Bed Bug spray. It was more than half empty. I only had to stand in the tile floored kitchen and do a quick look-over their frig and help them with some paperwork, so I wasn't really exposed to the best of my knowledge. I was in and out within 15 minutes. But the rest of the day I just kept feeling things crawling up my legs (under my jeans)...on my back (under my shirt) and all over....I was itching and looking all day. But there was was just all in my mind. And what made it worse.....I could really FEEL the imaginary bugs on me. The mind can play tricks.


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