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I'm back. Saw a nasty tonight [a: female bed bug; calliphorid fly parts]

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  1. Tuper

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    Well, it happened.

    I thought I was in the clear. I thought I was being paranoid. But I found one tonight, an adult.

    About a month ago I got a bite on my hand and neck in my sleep. The bite on my hand swelled up and was hot, red, and painful. The itching wasn't too bad, mostly associated with the swelling. No visible bite mark and first, but after some scratching, a teeny sore popped up. Teeny. I went to the doctor, they said it wasn't a bedbug bite and put me on antibiotics. The bite on my neck wasn't as bad.

    Three nights ago I started itching around both knees. Both had similar bites/welts. Just one bite on each. Same reaction with redness, pain, and some swelling. The very next night, my hand again.

    Still thinking it is a spider culpret, I tear my room apart. Vacuum every corner. ZERO spots on mattress, in seams, etc. Pristine white.

    Tonight I go to grab up a t shirt laying on the bed's throw pillows and there the basterd sits. He/she is currently in an air tight tupperware.

    So now what? I visited my friend back in August. No bites until 3-4 weeks ago.

    I don't think I have an infestation.....yet. but I am scared shitless. I have already broken down into sobs. It's a large double wide mobile home with just me and my son. (Who has no bites at the moment.) I'm not going to be able to afford treatments I'm afraid.

    I don't know where else they might have come from if not my friends house. I went on a cruise in september, visited my ex-fiance's sister in October and again in December, and haven't been anywhere since.

    What is exposure time??? Unless maybe I'm just now having reactions to bites? But then again, with now 5 bites total with the same reaction, a month apart, what does that sound like, number wise? Experts?

    I'm so upset. I know they are just bugs. But I don't want to lose everything. :'(

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    Hi,

    Is it possible to post an image to confirm? It's always the best place to start.

    I would also recommend you search the forum and read the posts on "infestation dynamics" which covers much of the background on how people get bed bugs. They are a lot more common than people think.

    Hope that helps.

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    Let me know if the link doesn't work. But I already know that's what it is. :'(

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    Hi,

    Yes it's a recently fed bed bug or close relative.

    Totally appreciate you were confident, now we can be as well. Nothing worse than finding out later that's not the case.

    My advice still stands on sources and looking for how this could have happened. The OP is not visible to me at the second but it has been known to happen that bed bugs are found as only one, let's hope that is the case here.

    Hope that helps.

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    Thanks, David. Recently fed as in night before last? How long after being introduced do they show up? I'm going to search the other threads, but I suppose how I got them is moot. Where to go from here is the main thing. I've already thrown the pillows and comforter in the bed of my truck in the driveway to haul to the dump tomorrow. There is a mirror next to where they were laying and where I found it that might have the poop stains on it.

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    Not poop on the mirror, too light colored. And the ass hat pooped in the tupperware so I had a color to compare. I can't find a search option on the forums, am I missing something? I'm on my phone.

    Questions: How often could it be that there is just one?
    Obviously I have a pretty significant reaction to bites, so 2 bites then a month later 3 bites (over 2 nights) = about how many bugs?
    How long after exposure (hatching?) do they start to bite? I remember that I did have two bites on my rear end at my ex fiance's sisters house over Christmas. They were pretty significant. But I wore sleep pants and the bites were around my lower underwear line. We stayed for 4 days. Would that be a more likely "pickup" place than my friends house from back in august?

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    I'm awake an hour early. Couldn't sleep all night. This sucks so badly. :'(

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    Another question......is the one I found male or female? Someone please help.

    Not are what happened to my original post in this thread. It's just gone. :-/

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    I just wasted an hour trying to do research. This is horrible. All the websites I've visited say that if I see one, I'm infested. Everything on me itches now. I thought I might have picked a nymph off of me earlier, but lost it before I could tell. My house is a 4 bedroom, I have a lot of clothing in multiple closets/dressers. Is it possible that I could have had an infestation since last August and am just now seeing evidence? Is this board just not active? I'm feeling very alone, I don't when want to tell my best friend. :'(

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    Hi,

    OK deep breath.

    Better to stick to a short list of good websites than to delve too far into a world where people are usually sold on fear rather than fact.

    I would say its fed that night or the one before. I am not 100% certain on the sex but will explain why it does not matter too much.

    What is most helpful here is to try and nip the anxiety int he bud and I would suggest you read this:

    http://www.bed-bugs.co.uk/schrodingersbedbug

    Lets try not to feed the fear and keep some logic.

    Once you know what to look for you should arm yourself with some tape to capture any signs with and assess the room. If you find no signs in or around the bed then its a good chance its just one and you can look at monitoring.

    If its more than one you can assess if it needs treating, how to treat and what the options for you are int he FAQs and useful tools.

    Hope that helps.

    David

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    I appreciate the article. The anxiety stems from not being able to pay for treatments. Or Worse, paying for treatments and it not solving the problem. No, I have not seen any other indications. But I know that doesn't mean anything. Especially to my untrained eye. About a month ago I had two bites, I had a pretty significant reaction to them. Ended up having to go on antibiotics. About 4 days ago I got two more, similar reaction. And then the day after that I got one more, similar reaction. Although I have read that it may take some time for your body to start reacting to them. I also have chickens, and I know they say they like birds? I only have newly hatched baby chicks in the house. They go outside at two weeks. I haven't noticed anything unusual going on with them.

    I am trying to be rational, but my lack of knowledge, plus lack of reliable information is very alarming. I cannot search the forums for specifics, because I do not have that option for whatever reason. I have read through all of the faqs, but still feel very overwhelmed and don't know where to start. My house is very large, about 2400 square feet. And while it is not filthy, I do have a lot of stuff. I feel like it will be impossible to get rid of this if I have an infestation. A main point of my anxiety. I get bit by mosquitoes and ticks all the time. The biting is not as big a deal as the infestation to me. If that makes sense. And the potential to spread it to others. I have no plans to go anywhere, nor will I feel comfortable going anywhere for a long time now.

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    Hi,

    Yes, when you look at it initially there would appear to be a lot to deal with. However, when you understand bed bugs a lot better while they could be anywhere in a 2400 sq ft home they are most likely to be a 3 foot radius of where people spend long periods of time stationary. That narrows things down a lot.

    In light cases its possible to deal with bed bugs without having a huge upheaval. The reality here is that if those items were infested you would see the signs, no signs, no need to add tot he worry.

    Have a look at what I have written before about light infestations and how you can resolve them it may help.

    David

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    I appreciate all your help, but I cannot find any of your writings that you talked about. Is there any way you might could link them for me?

    I have a pest control guy coming Friday. I bought vacuum seal bags and I'm going to start washing my multitudes of clothing and vacuum sealing them away.

    The bug I found was in front of my dresser, so I'm assuming that's where he wants to live. Although I looked in all the corners of the drawers and didn't see anything that looked like eggs or casings or droppings. But I have to do something. If I run out of vacuum bags and need to use garbage bags, what is the best way to seal them?

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    Hi,

    This:

    http://www.bed-bugs.co.uk/tbypmr.pdf

    Its a protocol for dealing with light infestations without the need to bag and wash everything.

    If you cant find more signs it may be that it was just the one bug that you brought in. Part of the issue here is that people usually market pest control services based on putting the fear of death into customers and this is just not the reality with bed bugs.

    Yes an advances infestation will always be best dealt with by an experienced dedicated professional but that does not describe most people offering bed bug services. Unless you have a local specialist in your scenario it may actually be more efficient to deal with it by the protocol above.

    David

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    Tuper - 12 hours ago  » 
    Another question......is the one I found male or female? Someone please help.
    Not are what happened to my original post in this thread. It's just gone. :-/

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    loubugs - 1 hour ago  » 
    Female

    Thanks Lou, I thought it was but with so many sharks in the water today I thought I had better be more than 99.998% certain.

    To the OP I would not be immediately worried about eggs and pulled into that anxiety eddy as female does not mean eggs are certain by any means.

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    Well she's still in the tupperware and although I'm scared to open it, we shall see on Friday if she's laid any in there. I thought it might be female too with the compassion photos I found.

    Dug through my room again last night and still no traces. Put double sided tape all around my mattress and nothing this morning. I did sleep better last night at least. Oh, and I put DE at my door. I want to at least keep them here if they aren't in the rest of the house yet. Tore through the couches too and nothing. (The dog loves to lay on one in particular.) Im torn between sterilizing my house as best i can and leaving it in this cluttered condition so the bughouse guy can see better what might be here. Thoughts on that?

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    Been thinking.

    Several months ago I was having some small itchy scabs on my legs. When I say small, I mean pinpoint. I cant remember exact time frame, but it hasn't been noticed for quite sometime. And I want to say it was in the warmer months because I was shaving on the regular (don't judge. Lol!)

    I honestly can't remember if this was before or after my visit to my friends place. I am in georgia and have farm animals. Random insect bites are the norm, which is possibly why I didn't pay it much attention.

    Could a population die down a bit and then resurface? And perhaps my exaggerated reaction to the bites is due to time/exposure?

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    Hi,

    Its is more likely that your response to them died down than an actually population dying down and restarting without treatment. They are very efficient breeders and so long as food is available at least once a week they tend not to slow the population growth.

    Hope that makes sense.

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    Makes sense.

    But if I've had an infestation for literally 6++ months, wouldn't I have seen something before now? Ughhhhh. Lol!

    Besides, my reactions have definitely not died down. Before it was a couple of itchy pinpoints. Now it's welts and swelling and antibiotics. :-/

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    Tomorrow cannot come quick enough. I hope to GOD this PCO knows his stuff.

    Also, thoughts on leaving my clutter out versus cleaning up? Clutter meaning I have a couple pairs of shoes in the corner, paperwork on the dresser, a few bags (fabric grocery types) in the other corner, and a whole ton of stuff heaped in the closet.

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    Hi,

    Not necessarily. I share and overview of a case where people had bed bugs for 2 years and only 1 of responded to the bites after he changed jobs.

    Seems hard to imagine someone missing thousands of bed bugs but it does happen.

    This is why going on bites is not reliable and why its all about:

    • Live samples
    • Cast skins
    • Faecal traces

    Either finding when visually or using monitors to confirm them.

    We regularly find 1,2 and 3 which for us is an easy kill because of the way we work. Others are not so good at detecting issues and there is always the danger that someone will declare "head bugs" rather than saying "I cant find anything so lets monitor for 14 days to make certain and keep looking for other potential causes". Using this approach we only get 1 or 2 missed detection's per year which equate to about 0.1% of the works that we do, but it helps a lot that I teach my team to use all their senses for inspection, not just sight.

    Hope that helps keep things in perspective.

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    Well I am positive I don't have head bugs. Lol! And again, I know I'm not a professional, but with all the research I've done I would think if something was there in massive numbers, I would have seen it.

    Although I HAVENT moved my rather large and heavy platform bed, so who knows? (Have lifted the mattress up and nothing that I could see. Sigh.....)

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    Hi,

    Thank goodness, I am never certain what to do with "head bugs" because in case I have had with no signs of bed bugs we have eventually traced it back to something being the trigger.

    If the bed is big and heavy when you are clear it would be worth spending the time to do this:

    http://www.bed-bugs.co.uk/bedbugslimitedadvancededucational.html - see optimization guide

    The idea being that with a few hours work you can actually engineer out many of the potential harbourage points for bed bugs narrowing down your search to the area immediately around the mattress so searching is easier and more feasible for you to do.

    David

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    Clear. A beautiful word. Lol!

    So leave clutter for PCO? I don't want to spread anything potentially. Especially to my closet. I've looked in the bags and no traces, but just in case?

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    Hi,

    The clutter option is best left to the PCO treating but I have always been a fan of the "no prep" approach that others have since moved to.

    In essence until you know how you are going to treat so long as the room is not a wall to wall "flooredrobe" do nothing cant make it any worse.

    I also don't think its professional to get people to bag up their lives only to tell them its not bed bugs.

    Finally we also don't know how we are going to treat until we look at what needs treating.

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    Lol, definitely not a "floorderobe." (An episode of Hoarders makes me feel great about my housekeeping skillz.)

    They didn't tell me to prep a thing when setting up the appointment, this was just my musings. I already threw out my comforter and throw pillows, just out of sheer heebie jeebies. (Hindsight 20/20, I should have bagged them up in the room instead of carrying them through the house, but oh well.)

    Appointment (free evaluation) in about 23 hours. Will set up my double sided tape barrier again tonight. (Good thing I'm little and can fit comfortably square in the middle of a king sized bed!)

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    2:00 AM, just woke up out of a dead sleep scratching. :'(

    I then got real still, grabbed my phone, turned on flashlight and all at once threw back covers and shined on bed. ....

    Nothing.

    PCO comes in 12 hours. This is a miserable existance. :'(

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    I know that feeling so well my last bed bug infestation was terrible but I survived it bed, couch, recliner was all infested and I did not know it there fecal on my sheet is what made me realize so I know what your going through hang in there

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    Hi Tuper,

    If your up, put on some comedy.

    Most "humans" can only hold on to one strong emotion at once. The nasty trick to anxiety is that it often blinds us to this simple fact.

    In your case that is certainly a more productive use of time than activities that feed the "stopper wave" of anxiety that some people naturally fall into.

    Consider that a gentle nudge from the rut.

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    Thank you David. I'm cleaning up a little, just surface stuff in other rooms to keep me occupied. So far, so good. 4.5 hours til PCO shows up.

    Cantcallit, are you bb free now?

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    Tuper - 1 day ago  » 
    Well she's still in the tupperware and although I'm scared to open it, we shall see on Friday if she's laid any in there. I thought it might be female too with the compassion photos I found.

    Put a folded piece of paper or paper towel in there so she can hold onto something and she might deposit eggs in the folds.

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    Thanks for the tip. I don't WANT her to lay eggs, but I guess it will indicate if she's breeding age. Do they lay eggs whether they are fertile or not?

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    Hi,

    Eggs are only laid once the female has mated.

    To be honest the mating process of bed bugs is one of those deep wells of information with many find unpalatable to think about because it pushes multiple anxiety triggers. If you have no issues with violence and sex acts look up traumatic insemination. Others with a less rock solid disposition would be best not to go looking, its a Pandora's box of anxiety to some people.

    Because of the way that females store the sperm once mated they can lay eggs for a weeks - months after the mating event although this time is greatly reduced in the absence of regular food and the sperm can be used as food by the female.

    I suspect in your case its something you don't want to look into the finer details of because it actually has little bearing on the situation until you have had a thorough inspection.

    Hope that helps.

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    I'm not squeamish, but I'll pass on the details for now. 20 minutes. I feel like I'm waiting on a death sentence. Ughhhhh.....

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    OMG THAT WAS ALMOST POINTLESS!!!!!

    He found nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nothing anywhere. Except some kind og shed in the laundry room up near the ceiling that he wasn't sure was bb related. I did find a dead bug in the laundry room earlier thoigh, will post a pic in a sec. Quoted me $400 per room, no encasements, no guarantee. "Recheck" in 2 weeks. They use Delta dust as a residual, steam treat, and use three chemicals, he couldn't remember the name but will get back with me.

    I need to do SOMETHING. I was hoping he would find something. :'(

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    He found nothing but still quoted you for a treatment?

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    Hey, it may have been just one.

    That's something to celebrate.

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    Well BigDummy, I did find one myself last tuesday. It was confirmed on here and he confirmed it. But he couldn't find any other evidence.

    I'm GLAD it might have been just one, but how long could I wait and what can I do in the meantime?

    OH. And I JUST found out my neighbor (separate homes) has been dealing with them for the past several months. She said, "they come in on cats and dogs from the woods" and "just spray rubbing alcohol on everything, they will die." SMDH.

    I told her as gently as possible she was no longer welcome in my house. Will I be safe if we socialize on the porch?

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    What are the chances of someone who believes that bed bugs come into the house carried by cats from the woods is also able to correctly identify said bug?

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    "just spray rubbing alcohol on everything, they will die."
    I hope she's not behind on her home insurance payments.

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    The PCO did say that if I have one, I have more.

    Here is a pic of the dead bug I found in the laundry room. He said I was a bedbug. I thought it looked too hairy.



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    Yes, I tried to explain to her that if they were bedbugs, they do not come in on cats and dogs from outside. She wouldn't listen. Said that she researched and that's what she found out. She also said that if you squish them they smell like pine because they like the woods. She's not the brightest bulb in the box. It's entirely possible that she brought one to me in her purse or clothing or something.

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    Hi,

    That latest image is not a bed bug.

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    It's also entirely possible that she's not even dealing with bed bugs but something completely different.

    The posted images are not of a bed bug.

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    Thanks. I didn't think it was. The PCO said it was.

    So now here's the million dollar question. What do I do? I don't want to do nothing, but I also don't want to pay $1,000+ for no guarantee.

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    P. S. My new pet is clinging to her little piece of paper towel in the Tupperware. I'm tempted to hang on to her for a little while longer to see if she lays eggs. Just to see if she is fertile.

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    At the risk of repeating myself I am just going to say take a deep breath and read this thread again.

    Also personally I would say the treatment is something of a mute point in light of the incorrect ID. Although no one is infalable it's an easy one to call as a picture and would have been more so in real life.

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    Why would you even entertain the thought of a treatment from someone who is clearly unable to identify a bed bug?

    Monitor the situation.

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    Tuper - 46 minutes ago  » 
    The PCO did say that if I have one, I have more.
    Here is a pic of the dead bug I found in the laundry room. He said I was a bedbug. I thought it looked too hairy.

    Is that insect on something or is it under plastic? It seems to be a very shiny, reflective surface. Could you take pictures of it when it's on a non-reflective surface? I don't believe it's a bed bug.

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    It is on my bathroom counter, but it does have a green beetle sheen to it.

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    Tuper - 1 hour ago  » 
    It is on my bathroom counter, but it does have a green beetle sheen to it.

    The background counter has a large glare spot. I thought it would be easier to see if the picture could be taken on a non-reflective surface.

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    Looks like this could be the abdomen and a little bit of part of the thorax and musculature of a calliphorid fly.

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    I will get a better pic in a bit. I'm in central GA if that helps.

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    I was gone saturday night, only living beings in the house were 5 one week old baby chick in the living room.

    Nothing noted that I can tell.

    Is double sided tape strong enough to trap the sobs? I literally surrounded the entire king size mattress with it. They will have to cross it to get to me tonight. (I'm a teeny person, I swim in a king size bed and won't touch the tape myself.

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    Oh, and most important question.......when can I consider myself in the clear?

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    From Tuper:
    "Thanks. I didn't think it was. The PCO said it was."

    Nice pictures! Yes, look like calliphorid fly body parts. Not sure of species. Could be a species of Phormia or Calliphora or even Lucilia. Not sure of the true coloration and of course can't see the head, legs or wings.
    The PCO said that this specimen was a bed bug? He's in the wrong line of work.

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    Thank you Mr. Lou!

    Being in the south, and a farm girl, I am surrounded by buggies. Normally they don't bother me an iota. In fact, I adore my little spindly cellar spiders that occasionally take up residence in the corners of my bathroom. And one time I even had the TINIEST little preying mantis find its way in the bathroom.

    But bedbugs can go burn in hades.

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    Oh!! And my little pet hasn't laid eggs that I can tell. I did put a piece of paper towel in the like you suggested. She clung to it and hasn't budged. No eggs since last Tuesday a good sign that perhaps she wasn't fertilized? (I know it's a long shot, but just another piece of info to share.)

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    Oh, and one more question. ....

    Bedbug or closely related..... I have like 150 chickens in various coops. The closest one is less than 20 feet from the house. Could this be a bird bug? Might explain why I can't find more?

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    Caught a bug in the tape!! Although it was prolly more like luck, he was moving just fine over the sticky part. :-/ I'm not sure it's a bb, but I'm not the expert!!! I caught one very similar to this one in my bathroom the morning the PCO came and showed it to him, but he didn't comment on it. (I will post pics in a second.) But now this has me worried that my tape isn't strong enough. >:(

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    This sucker was VERY hard to get pics of. He's teeny. And a fighter. Kept coming undone off the tape.

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    This was the one from the bathroom last friday. Sorry, I can't get better pics of either.

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    Tuper - 8 hours ago  » 
    Oh, and one more question. ....
    Bedbug or closely related..... I have like 150 chickens in various coops. The closest one is less than 20 feet from the house. Could this be a bird bug? Might explain why I can't find more?

    There is a possibility that you could have any number of blood feeding insects and mites associated with chickens. Leave monitors in the coops. Or you would have to look around in the nests.

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    Hi,

    Also not a bed bug, its a beetle.

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    loubugs - 11 hours ago  » 
    From Tuper:
    "Thanks. I didn't think it was. The PCO said it was."
    Nice pictures! Yes, look like calliphorid fly body parts. Not sure of species. Could be a species of Phormia or Calliphora or even Lucilia. Not sure of the true coloration and of course can't see the head, legs or wings.
    The PCO said that this specimen was a bed bug? He's in the wrong line of work.

    These look like calliphorid fly body parts, but are a bit "hairy" on the edges. If you ever find any whole bodies, it would help a lot for a more correct determination.

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    Tuper - 1 hour ago  » 
    Caught a bug in the tape!! Although it was prolly more like luck, he was moving just fine over the sticky part. :-/ I'm not sure it's a bb, but I'm not the expert!!! I caught one very similar to this one in my bathroom the morning the PCO came and showed it to him, but he didn't comment on it. (I will post pics in a second.) But now this has me worried that my tape isn't strong enough. >:(

    The beetle looks like a silvanid beetle and one picture show the "teeth" on the edge of pronotum. This looks most like a saw-toothed grain beetle. You have to check chicken food and also stored food products in your home.

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    Thanks yall!!! I have never had problems with bugs in my food. (Or the chicken's food for that matter.)

    The birds do get mites and such occasionally, but I treat them with ivermectin or fipronil. Would either of those two things be effective against bed bugs or bird bugs?

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    As to the egg question, when I was toying with my collection of bed bugs my breeding female would drop a clutch of eggs within a few days of feeding. So if she had a blood meal prior to capture I would suspect she would have laid eggs days ago while the meal was still fresh in her.

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    And I just have to say, TRULY, THANK YOU!!! I tend to freak out about stuff that I don't understand and only have a biased or basic understanding of. My anxiety has been dramatically reduced in this situation due to yall's input. I really can't thank you enough. When researching some things, you just don't know what to trust on the internet. I tend to believe scientific articles, but sometimes have a hard time understanding them. Forums like this, where I can chat with people who are experts are vastly underrated. And so so so helpful for lay people like myself. I know you guys don't really benefit from taking your time to help out, but I for one appreciate it from the bottom of my heart!!!!

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    Well BigDummy, if that's the case, hopefully she laid them on the throw pillow I found her on (and threw out that night!) How long until eggs hatch?

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    Hi,

    Eggs hatch between 10 and 17 days depending upon temperature.

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    Ok, so I should be vacuuming profusely and emptying the canister and taking it out daily?

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    How long with no signs can I start to relax?

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    Tuper - 2 minutes ago  » 
    Ok, so I should be vacuuming profusely and emptying the canister and taking it out daily?

    I would say in your case no. To do so will feel your anxiety and potentially set up behaviors that are not constructive.

    Given you lack of signs other than 1 bed bug you need to meter your response to that level.

    Given the potential to feed anxiety feedback loops you actually need to be actively doing less and focusing on keeping perspective.

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    I feel like my anxiety is at an ok level. Just on high alert. (Those beetles were teeeeeny so I suppose I am looking over everything with a fine toothed comb.) But I'm sleeping ok now (tape barrier helps.) I suppose it really is one of those things that only becomes a massive infestation if it's ignored? If I check once a month, I should be able to catch anything before it gets too bad?

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    BigDummy - 3 days ago  » 
    Why would you even entertain the thought of a treatment from someone who is clearly unable to identify a bed bug?
    Monitor the situation.

    LOL cannot agree more.

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    Well......I'm not entertaining it. :p Lol!

    It's been one week since I found the live bedbug (who is still in the tupperware.) I don't think I've gotten any new bites, but I went ahead and marked all my bites with a sharpie just in case to keep track.

    I upgraded the double sided scotch tape to indoor/outdoor carpet tape since the saw toothed beetle has zero problems transversing across it. I leap into bed every night and check it every morning. No signs of even the tiniest speck stuck in the tape. Not sure if this is an idea that is helping or hurting (driving them to leave) But I sleep soundly now, so that's a good thing to me. I have a mound of DE across the door threshold. I want to keep them in my room. My son's room is clear at the other end of the house. The dog does sleep on the sofa in the next room though. Hoping the DE is enough to keep them here. And let them die off. Or something.

    Again I will ask......when is a good time frame (roughly) that I can start calming down? Again, I've seen exactly ONE adult female live bug (confirmed) and the PCO nor I have seen any other signs.


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