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  1. NeverSurrender

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    Posted 7 years ago
    Sun Dec 11 2011 23:34:33
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    So there are these little bugs that exist to attack humans and drink their blood. Sounds like a horror movie and maybe it is. They're fast moving, resilient and have the ability to numb your body so you don't feel the bite. Then they're "smart enough" to run away. They can somehow maneuver through your cloths. Some say they can walk up the wall (since you're using interceptors, your bedding isn't touching the ground and your bed is away from the wall and covered) and drop onto you. That sounds like some serious determination. Some have suggested instinct. If you capture one and put it into a bag it can live up to eighteen months (some say longer) but yet they won't let anything deter them from coming after you so they can eat every six days or to transition from one life stage to another. Oh let's not forget they lay eggs that are so tough that the vacuum and (many times) the washing machine won't help. Some are becoming resistant to pesticides. We have to stay in a home that has those pesticides and pray they aren't having an affect on our families. There is a major stigma attached to having BBs. Doesn't matter if you're a fanatic about being neat and clean and were actually proud of your home at one point. And then what about if you have neighbors. Imagine if you never heard about BBs and your neighbor comes to you and says they have them. Guess what, you now have to pay thousands of dollars and hope you pick a PCO that isn't ripping you off. Let's say you get lucky and find a PCO who is not only knowledgeable but ethical. You have to hope he/she gets them. Did you ever notice the lack of a lot of media coverage. Why is that? Now that I'm part of the BB community it obvious there are so many people suffering both emotionally and financially. For example some suggest that if the evening news does a story about a big department store in NY or hotel in Las Vegas having an infestation that would cause a loss in ad revenue. Without being a conspiracy theorist and looking at it objectively what would a reasonable person conclude (about the lack of media coverage). What about the people who have home businesses! Think about that. You need to generate money to support your family but now you know all about BBs. You don't want to bring anymore in and you don't want your customers to bring one home. How do you survive. I haven't mentioned all the bagging, cleaning and discarding of what used to be important possessions. It's interesting how much you suddenly don't care about your "stuff" once BBs invade your life. The toll the realization of the severity of the impact to your life can be heavy. Some say they will never go to the movie theater again. Others who must travel for a living have to become Inspector Clouseau. That's a lot of work and stress. It really makes you wonder. What the hell are these bugs. We know they have been around for a very long time and survive all over the world. In the bigger picture is it evolution? Is it some type of experiment that escaped from the lab? I know when you're in the thick of a BB infestation many people experience a roller coaster of emotions and reactions. But when you stop to really think about it. When you consider the bigger picture in a philosophical sense it really makes you wonder what it's all about and how did we get here.

  2. P Bello

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    Posted 7 years ago
    Mon Dec 12 2011 0:10:12
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    Dear Neversurrender,

    Thanks for your post above. Yes, they take a huge toll on folks. As for the lack of media coverage, allow me to comment on this:

    While working at an infested homeless shelter I spoke with the reported about how traveling folks could detect and prevent picking up bed bugs for 45 minutes. However, the only thing that made the report was the footage and comments on how bad the infestation was.

    The PMP industry has also noted the decreased media coverage. Perhaps this is so because the media has an attention span of about 15 minutes. BBs are now old news to them.

    However, my clientelle across the US report that their Bb work is definitely increased over prior year.

    Lack of public awareness is a significant factor contributing to the increase in bed bug incidence.

    It is what it is, paul b.

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    Posted 7 years ago
    Mon Dec 12 2011 10:40:57
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    P Bello

    I agree with what you said..."Lack of public awareness is a significant factor contributing to the increase in bed bug incidence."

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    Since we're looking at the "bigger picture" and putting things into perspective, I think it is worth pointing out that at least they don't spread disease and can't fly. A couple of hundred million people catch malaria every year and just short of a million of them die, most of whom are kids. That's not to mention encephalitis, dengue fever, rift valley fever and yellow fever...and that's just the mosquito borne diseases!

    I don't want to down-play how unpleasant it is to have bedbugs (I have first hand experience), but living in Western society we actually have a lot to be thankful for.

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    Posted 7 years ago
    Wed Dec 14 2011 16:16:58
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    Never surrender.
    You impress me.
    I have been off air as my internet connection has been down (i get it off my neighbours downstairs through wireless) and have just come back to this site to see whats happening.
    And I see your thread which is good because you make such an important point about how this is not good for the materialism that our culture is so skewed towards.
    Great point and put very well by someone who has brains and who knows how to use them.

    But what first grabbed my attention is the detail you go into of how evasive and untraceable these critters are.
    This really is the main problem because we just cant find them.

    They are many laps ahead of us humans in this race which is really worrying.

    I have been putting down a real strict regime to break these guys.
    I dont have a huge infestation, there are none to see and no fecal stains AT ALL .
    They just seem to NOT be here,
    And I know I am not an easy victim for them.
    I look hard and I think of any way to beat them, microwaving every thing( its HOW you use it, but as everyone is so anti them I wont expand),Ironing everything, washing everything in boiling water, bathing every night before getting in to my sleeping bag on my special piece of lino with sticky tape all around it.etc etc.
    You get the picture.
    I am code red/ triple red on this problem.
    But still I find blood spots in my underpants ( not everday, thank goodness, IF that is a positive sign)) and I found a spot just one hour before I sat down here to post.
    A fresh bloodspot, so it only happened very recently.
    So I go through my under pants (they're clean every day ) to track the bastard down.
    But you know what?
    The spot is right on the top edge where the elastic is under a sort of pocket running all round the top of the pants. I get scissors to open the stitch and find in these new, simple, plain and white underpants a veritable maze for the bug to run around totaly hidden from our eyes.
    There are TWO layers of stitching all the way around the hem(whatever the correct term is for the band round the top.).
    So that means it has TWO tunnels totally enclosed by stitching around such a simple garment within which it can not just crawl, but MOVE QUICKLY.
    And all totally hidden from our sight.
    I have completely shredded my underpants and STILL have not found any evidence of its remains.
    Just a smallish blood spot.
    That is all there is to show they are still around here.

    That seems to mean that they can survive being squashed to the extent the blood spurts out but they survive to escape capture ( and I want a live one for my newly arrived microscope) and therefore continue to bite again.

    What on Earth are we to do?

    I am absolutely certain the ones remaining in my flat are on my clothes/person/ bedding.
    But I cannot put strong chemicals on these because I will poison myself.
    My sleeping bag is completely beyond any hope of searching properly.
    Or treating safely.
    To them it is a continent the size of the USA compared to my clean white underpants.

    I wouldnt be surprised to find they are using the internet as well!
    And if so using it even more effectively than we are here on this excellent site.
    These little guys are no fools.

    To conclude, and I apologise for the length of this reply, I can only think of wearing even simpler garments so like David Beckham, of whom I am no great fan, I will be looking into getting some sarongs to wear about my flat.
    I believe any garment with any stitching or double layers of fabric, are beyond proper inspection when looking for these critters.
    That means jackets,shirts, trousers,socks, overcoats and conventional underwear are impediments to winning this battle.
    But here (UK) it is now Winter so one has to compromise, but of course that is only relaxing ones guard, which means you are letting them have floorspace in your life.

    As I value your opinion would you agree with me or do you think I am over reacting?
    Are you in the same situation as myself, ie you are still the finding the occasional bite or blood spot on your person(s), clothing or bedding but never ever actually seeing one?
    Thanks.

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    Wed Dec 14 2011 16:54:22
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    soretit - 36 minutes ago  » 
    I have been off air as my internet connection has been down (i get it off my neighbours downstairs through wireless).

    LOL. There is nothing more frustrating than stealing an unreliable internet connection.

    -rs1971

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    Wed Dec 14 2011 16:58:44
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    Lol too.
    I pay them for it.
    £10 a month.
    Real sweet deal.
    Errr.... most of the time.

  8. bed-bugscouk

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    Wed Dec 14 2011 17:55:25
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    Hi soretit,

    If you only place you think they are is your under wear and you have seen no faecal traces or live samples we need to talk. I am 100% certain they will never be in the seams of your clothes without being everywhere else first.

    You have my number, text me and I will call you to chat this through.

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    thanks David.
    I WILL call you tommorrow a.m.
    Thanks for the reply.

    Just to let you know I have been going through my hair with a nit comb.
    I got one of the little bugs on the comb.
    It is a tiny perfect minature of a big bug, except the antenae are a little longer by proportion.
    What is the real shame is that this perfect (live?) specimen pinged off the tooth it was attached to and try as I might I couldnt find the thing.
    So I blitzed the area it could have 'pinged' to. With boiling water and bleach.
    It was my kitchen floor so not carpeted.

    I guess I can be sure that you, David,can understand how annoying this was.
    I have my microscope and am set on getting a live one to study and then test for ways to kill it.
    That is alcohol, boiling water and different temperatures.
    Obviously I will need more than one.

    Anybody reading this I apologise for the nature of my posts but I hope you understand we got to get over our scruples to really tie down the nature of the problem.

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    Richard_Naylor - 12 hours ago  » 
    Since we're looking at the "bigger picture" and putting things into perspective, I think it is worth pointing out that at least they don't spread disease and can't fly. A couple of hundred million people catch malaria every year and just short of a million of them die, most of whom are kids. That's not to mention encephalitis, dengue fever, rift valley fever and yellow fever...and that's just the mosquito borne diseases!
    I don't want to down-play how unpleasant it is to have bedbugs (I have first hand experience), but living in Western society we actually have a lot to be thankful for.

    I agree with you although BBs can really cause some serious distress.

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    Anybody reading this I apologise for the nature of my posts but I hope you understand we got to get over our scruples to really tie down the nature of the problem.

    Amen to that. Been doing a little experimenting myself. Mostly in terms of observation of BB behavior. I have several captured. I think it also desensitizes a little since you can actually see what you're dealing with.

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    NeverSurrender - 6 hours ago  » 

    Amen to that.

    I was pretty sure you would see it that way.
    Thanks for being on a similar wavelength.

    Just a small note.
    If you havent got a nit comb get one.
    They are a specialised form of comb. An ordinary one is not fine enough.
    Also try to get one made of metal, as the one I got is a cheap plastic one ( I live in the UK so cheap is normal.Lol.)
    The plastic ones their teeth can be as sharp as needles and if you are not too carefull they actually spear your scalp resulting more blood, which obviously makes it harder to determine if you drew the blood on your comb or the bug did!

    And tap out what lies in the teeth onto a sheet of paper.
    And be carefull you dont end up launching any captured bugs into space as I did by being clumsy when inspecting my 'catch'.

    Stay frosty.

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    Fri Dec 16 2011 1:37:36
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    Sortit have you had a inspection? Where do you live? Every week I visit someone who is convinced they have bed bugs when they don't had one on the phone at midnight last night 99% sure she does not have bed bugs. 100% sure she needs to see a doctor.

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    Rlol.
    Astute observation!
    I have bed bugs AND already needed to see a doctor.

    I thank you for your concern, but although I have far fewer than when I first discovered them I still find the odd one, odd being the operative word.

    But an inspection would be nice.
    But I am in good hands and will be relaying more info when those hands start getting to work on my flat.

    I have touched upon the side effects they have on ones over-sensitivity to seeing 'bugs' in every object and am aware that I can be prey to that effect.
    In that respect I am like 90% those affected and no superman.

    So the fight goes on...

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    soretit,

    Have you had anyone ID the bug that you found in your hair?

    Bed bugs don't normally hang out in people's hair. We have been told they don't like the texture/difficulty of accessing skin. There seem to be some exceptions--

    We have heard a few such cases, but they seemed to have something in common: the hair does not get washed regularly. For example: people with dreadlocks, hair extensions, or other 'dos that don't get washed much.

    I started and run the site but am "not an expert."

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