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  1. victimandveteran

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    Posted 7 years ago
    Wed Sep 12 2012 6:02:41
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    I haven't done searches but I'm guessing this is a tired subject.

    Well, it's about just over 3:30 and I'm tired too. Been through 5 apartments and over 30 hotels, extended stays etc. That's excluding nights, that's actual locations in L.A. and...

    We're F'd. The only thing that makes me not move to some place South of North Dakota is these things don't transmit disease. If they did (and I have a staph infection scar due to a bite on the left side of my eye from staying at a place last March I won't mention in Hollywood, thank you so much (that location wasn't part of the estimate either)) we'd be in some serious, serious trouble.

    Be skeptic, be real, whatever you want to call it. People aren't going to heat treat. They're not. Landlords are cheap as hell. Heat treating is a luxury. If it's not DDT it's the next newest DDT with a new name that's not been tested in public.

    We're kidding ourselves. DDT went wrong cuz they were spraying it on crops and any college student they could find for lack of a better definition. I can naively argue it as a pesticide because the newer chemical alternatives aren't any less naive than any failed heart medication.

    At least we know DDT worked. Hell, DE is bad for human health and it's sold like pixie dust online.

    You can't heat treat Macy's in downtown NY, you can't heat treat the Rockefeller Center, and you can't heat treat the Los Angeles Library which I hear also has a TB scare now.

    This crap has to end.

    Thanks for reading my rant.

    This shit...sucks. Tired of moving and itching for over a year and...whatever

    Going to "bed".

    Peace,
    -vav

  2. Koebner

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    Posted 7 years ago
    Wed Sep 12 2012 6:24:12
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    No, it didn't work. Like you say, you haven't done the searches, so I'll take a very quick canter through it.

    DDT still works on malarial mosquitos, for which we should all be grateful. However, bed bugs are a totally different insect in both structure & behaviour. Bed bugs developed resistance to DDT very shortly after its introduction & it has now been observed that in places where DDT is used to control mosquitos, bed bugs are more active.

    DDT is now an entirely useless method of combatting bed bugs.

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    Posted 7 years ago
    Wed Sep 12 2012 6:35:12
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    Koebner - 10 minutes ago  » 
    DDT is now an entirely useless method of combatting bed bugs.

    ...But Dursban isn't!

  4. Redtape

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    Wed Sep 12 2012 6:35:37
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    Found these videos last night and I think they should be mentioned since we're on the topic of DDT. Not really sure what to think of this guy... But i'll let you guys judge for yourselves.

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  5. bed-bugscouk

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    Wed Sep 12 2012 8:09:42
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    Hi,

    DDT stopped working on bedbugs in the UK in the 60's.

    The ultimate solution to bedbugs is non chemical because they can't develop resistance to it.

    However the current key issue with resistance is actually human resistance to taking universal integrated control.

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    Posted 7 years ago
    Wed Sep 12 2012 9:14:08
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    Redtape

    Thanks for posting the videos of Dr. Rutledge talking about DDT.

    Dr. Rutledge states that there hasn't been a study on DDT resistance in bed bugs for the last fifty years...That is a really interesting statement that makes me question his grasp on the research... There have been several studies that have been performed in the last 50 years.

    Here is one from 2008
    http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3954/1523-5475-25.1.41

    Here is another from the 80s
    http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2009/05/07/ddt-resistance-in-belo-horizonte-1985-1986/

    DDT has a low acute toxicity... The health issues are cancers and birth defects that are associated with exposure.

    Dr Rutledge states in the video that he is going to conduct his own research... perhaps he should start with a simple Google search.

    It is clear to me that Dr Rutledge is primarily seeking to promote his own video... His conspiracy theory is laughable... His claim that the EPA outlawed DDT to reduce overpopulation because people were not dying quickly enough in the third world is not supported by any credible evidence.

    We have good alternatives to DDT for malaria control, but many third world countries cannot afford the drug costs... The reason people are dying in large numbers is primarily due to economic inequity rather than the lack of effective treatment strategies or materials.

    Use of DDT for indoor bed bug control and use of DDT to control outdoor mosquito populations to prevent deadly public health threats are two entirely separate issues.

  7. Koebner

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    Posted 7 years ago
    Wed Sep 12 2012 9:18:21
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    OK, I tried the audio.

    Rutledge is an "anti-aging doctor"? Whose degree is in osteopathy? And who believes in karma? But people who disagree with him are "hippies"? Once again, I have to restrain myself or else shatter the house rules on swearing.

    Y'know, whatever poor dear Howard "thinks" about PhDs, I'm a whole lot more prepared to believe doctors of entomology than an "anti-aging" osteopath when it comes to understanding what kills bed bugs.

    And if Rutledge has "5 filing cabinets" full of DDT studies (thewhich he seems lamentably incapable of understanding) how has he not noticed that DDT is being used, right now, against mosquitos? Including indoor application; http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120903142949.htm

    The Howard Stern Show; synidcated cretinism.

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    Koebner
    Thanks for posting the link

    The article states that some South African villages have been treated with DDT for 60 years.

    It would be interesting to study the long term health outcomes for the applicators that would receive the highest levels of DDT exposure

    Here is a link for an article written by Renee Corea on DDT that provides a historical perspective with links to original source material
    http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2008/04/12/no-ddt-thanks-were-good/

    Read the linked articles if you want to be properly informed...

    Or just hit the send button on a barrage of angry emails to Lisa Jackson at EPA... if you buy into the DDT drinking doctor's ignorant rant.

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    Posted 4 years ago
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    Whether ddt does or doesn't work, I'd still like to try it. I would sleep in a bathtub full of ddt every night. Gimme gimme gimme gimme!

  10. BigDummy

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    Posted 4 years ago
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    So do it then...

  11. factsfromopinionsofmine

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    Fine, maybe I will! I put ddt on my LIST FOR SANTA! Nyaa-nyaa!

  12. Freaked Fighter

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    BD...ROFL I really needed that today, too.

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