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  1. nightmarebug

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    Posted 6 years ago
    Mon Jul 22 2013 21:34:26
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    Ok so an update... I had two more (diff) PCOs come over today and gave them each a bag full of my bugs. They both agreed that these look like BB but could be Bat bugs as Terminix said they thought they were. Simply bc of the number of bugs I had caught and where I caught them (on walls by ceiling mostly and primarly during the day) and bc I had no other signs...no stool,shells or eggs in either my couches or bed.

    My attic was looked at by Terminix and no signs of bats. However me and the hubby have been hearing a squeaking and moving noise coming from the chimney in the basement (kinda basement ceiling height) We can not tell if that is a bat or a Mice noise. WE both think its pretty noisey for a mouse. (We know we have to remove the bats first if is Bat bugs)

    My question is this tho... If these are BAT bugs, And there bats in my chimney... how does the chimney get treated of the bugs? Wouldnt it defeat the purpose to have a PCO treat the house if the chimney is infested? Bc eventually they'll find their way to my house like the others.

    And also how common is it for BAT bugs to find their way into the home and leave their host? Maybe the population of Bat bugs is too big so they are looking for other food?

    Any and all BAT bug knowledge or guesses are welcome. Please Somebody...

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    Posted 6 years ago
    Mon Jul 22 2013 23:07:32
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    I am not an expert but in cases of bat bugs, the bats and/or nest (which may be all that's left, which is often why they seek out humans) need to be removed. This is something PCOs do. They would do it, then treat the bugs, and that should solve the problem.

    (Bird bugs can sometimes be an issue, for example in some cases, protected species have to be allowed to move on -- if still present-- before you mess with the nest. Probably not an issue here.)

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    Posted 6 years ago
    Mon Jul 22 2013 23:33:30
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    Thanks no bugs. The 3 pcos I've had out cannot give me a definitive answer yet as to what they are but they all are saying "my first pick is a Bat bug". I believe one of the PCOs is having a specialist look at my samples tmrw. He first pco had a pco of 30 yrs look at it under a microscope and he said "he's saying its a bat bug".

    But all the PCOs have said they won't get on my roof and treat a chimney invader. They told me to call critter control. And also that their treatment wouldn't reach the chimney (as our runs down the middle of our house. The lowest bid I got from a critter control was $100 just to come look and he said its be about 600/800$ on top of that for removal and prevention. Also bats are protected here so if there at baby bats in there he can't remove them until sept bc they are said to not be "winged"!

    There's no way I'm living with these bugs till then!

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    Posted 6 years ago
    Tue Jul 23 2013 4:43:50
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    Bats are in immense trouble in the US because of habitat destruction and now a fungal disease called white nose syndrome that is sweeping through causing almost total mortality. They're valuable for their role as major predators of flying insects, especially agricultural pests (where they are a boon to farmers). If you have bats, I'd encourage you to follow the requirements to use non-lethal means to evict them.

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    Posted 6 years ago
    Tue Jul 23 2013 6:58:18
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    Hi,

    It is not necessarily so that you need to live with the issue until the bats have flown and can be excluded.

    Once they are confirmed as bat bugs by someone who can be bothered to do a professional job then there are solutions that can be put in place to limit the risk of anything ingressing your home using methods that will not affect the bats.

    Once its confirmed let me know and I will post my suggestions.

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    bed-bugscouk - 2 minutes ago  » 
    Once its confirmed let me know and I will post my suggestions.
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    Posted 6 years ago
    Tue Jul 23 2013 7:39:31
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    Thank You David! I so wish you were local I could use some real professionals. I am waiting for them to call me back today and if not I will be calling them.

    Ill keep you all posted.

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    Posted 6 years ago
    Sat Jul 27 2013 10:47:11
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    Ok David,

    Heres your update. I have had 4 different PCO's come out. All have taken samples and 3 have said these are infact bed bugs Terminix is the only one who said bat bugs when they searched and found no bats they said they were stumped and never called or came back for their follow up appointment. I will not be using them.

    One of the other companies was most through searching in my attic crawling on my floors and I loved them. They did varify its Bed bugs but said they cant treat me bc they cant find a "source or nest" They said they have found no fecal spots, eggs or cast skin. So they" cant promise to fix my problem" and dont want to waste my money. They have been here 3-4 times and only find the bugs on my wall or in my carpet. (absolutley nothing on my couches or bed)

    The other company is a family owned company not well known and they seemed to not know their stuff too well. And then theres the anther company who does a heat treat and I am still waiting to hear back from them.

    All companies are dumbfounded that I dont have anything on my bed or couches where I probably am getting my bites, they say they should be leaving a poop trail or laying eggs as they leave me. Is this really an issue?! I have bugs, why cant they treat?!

    So me and the hubby are thinking about just leaving our home. IF so we plan on leaving some things behind but would like to take our bedroom set (bed frame, 2 dressers and 2 night stands, possible bed) and maybe our 2 couches. We would of course wash the laundry as suggested. and bag it in huge zip locks. We will have our uhaul treated with our things in them. I found a place that will heat your truck but am also interested in the Vikane treatment of the uhaul.

    Problem is we are looking at houses and thats a process. It could take a few months and by then this situation could be out of control. Should we just rent an apartment for a year?
    And of course I worry that even with a treated truck we may bring some with us. Any ideas on how to keep the population down here until the move?

    This is stressful. I feel like its a toss up. I was leaning toward a PCO treatment but they have been so wishy washy and we really arent attached to this home so it maybe worth it to save our 4-5 thousand dollars and put that toward a new place and or replacing items we already own.

    ALL suggestions and input are welcome...

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    Posted 6 years ago
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    nightmarebug - 3 hours ago  » 
    Ok David,
    Heres your update. I have had 4 different PCO's come out. All have taken samples and 3 have said these are infact bed bugs Terminix is the only one who said bat bugs when they searched and found no bats they said they were stumped and never called or came back for their follow up appointment. I will not be using them.

    Were these the PCO techs who visited you who said they were bed bugs or did they pass the sample on to a consulting entomologist? Most people (even pest techs) probably can't tell the difference, but an entomologist can. If you post a close photo or high resolution scan here, some experts here may be able to confirm the ID for you.


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