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Are they back or should I stop worrying? [a: objects not insect-related]

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  1. ozbugz

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Sat Nov 7 2015 19:13:08
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    Hi again,
    Like others I was starting to think I was free then noticed something of concern that might mean 'They're baaaaaack.'
    I would greatly appreciate opinions as to whether I need to get further treatment or should relax for now and continue to monitor.
    A month or two ago I painted my bed slats with sealer and gloss paint. I have a passive monitor on the top slat (partially unpainted). Some had what could have been fecal marks on them.
    The slats are not attached to the bed but rest on the black metal L shaped sides. The bed posts are wood with black metal arches linking across at head and foot.
    I recently replaced my old torn mattress (encased) with a good one new encasement.
    Some of the paint has worn off some bed slats at the point where it meets the bed sides.
    I cannot tell if the black marks are fecal stains, new or old.
    I have not had any signs whatsoever on passive monitor on top slat. But getting the odd bite (arm, calf). I notice them when they appear but they are not generally itchy (I previousky seemingly did not react much when I had original infestation - only twigged when I saw one).
    Also the odd black speck on sheets and one blood spot.
    I would be so grateful for advice from the experts and others here! I can't tell you how much I value this site.
    Here are the slats:
    https://www.flickr.com/gp/136704932@N03/Tsm7UL
    https://www.flickr.com/gp/136704932@N03/3Hf56L
    Also this was inside my pillow case today
    https://www.flickr.com/gp/136704932@N03/gm8CSG
    And this was on my bed yesterday
    https://www.flickr.com/gp/136704932@N03/Vmm641

  2. ozbugz

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Sat Nov 7 2015 19:19:00
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    I loaded images from Flickr from iPhone using url - my display did not seem to match instructions on FAQ
    Happy for further guidance if they can't be seen (sorry).

  3. Nobugsonme

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Sun Nov 8 2015 2:26:23
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    Photos fixed! You will likely hear from an expert tomorrow.

    I started and run the site but am "not an expert."
  4. ozbugz

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Sun Nov 8 2015 3:48:20
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    Thank you, Nobugs!

  5. ozbugz

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Sun Nov 8 2015 4:41:56
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    Sorry, just to add, there is DE on the ends of the slats, as well as on the uprights etc of the bed. Unfortunately Cimexa is not available here yet and I am concerned that DE is slow acting (given that we are coming into our summer here). I would feel a lot better if I could dust with a fast acting dust.

    Prior to my painting the slats etc the place was sprayed with Chaindrite (permethrin - was completely ineffective other than apparently making the bbs more bites), then we engaged a different PCO who sprayed with Tempo, then with Temprid a couple of weeks later.
    The whole place was then foolishly bombed by us for suspected fleas (Mortein) (as our cat had been in a cattery during the treatments) until we worked out I was having what appeared to be some kind of delusory bite sensations (no longer having these sensations thankfully). Meanwhile the place was again re-sprayed with Tempo by yet another PCO, ostensibly for the fleas. Interestingly, more bed bugs were found dead in the bed towards the foot end, the next morning.

    I thought it was all over, especially since getting the Packtite passives, but now I am not so sure . . .
    Sorry to ramble on a bit, but I thought this background may be relevant.
    As you can imagine, this whole process has been really traumatic and exacerbated my cleaning compulsions.

  6. jim danca

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Sun Nov 8 2015 10:16:48
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    The third photo doesn't look bedbug related. Fresh fecal on wood has a shiny/glistening appearance and will smear. The fourth photo appears to be a bedbug but a clearer picture would help.

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  7. ozbugz

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Sun Nov 8 2015 15:21:12
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    Thank you, Jim. I will check the fecal stains again. The item in fourth pic above was very tiny, as you can tell from the size of the weave of the bed sheet it is on. I thought it was just a speck at first but something made me take pics of it. Not sure if the other pics below of the same item help?
    https://www.flickr.com/gp/136704932@N03/4X1Pb2
    https://www.flickr.com/gp/136704932@N03/39546E
    https://www.flickr.com/gp/136704932@N03/P89521
    https://www.flickr.com/gp/136704932@N03/82qD5a
    It was not moving, was just there on bottom sheet in the morning.

  8. loubugs

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Sun Nov 8 2015 20:31:55
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    The 3rd & 4th images don't look like insects or parts of insects.

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  9. ozbugz

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Sun Nov 8 2015 21:12:35
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    Thank you, Lou - Do you mean the 3rd and 4th of the second batch? Those were all of the same 'speck' while I tried to get close up with decent focus. The larger sample I had doubts about, but the 'speck' has sure scared me!

    Sorry Lou and Jim that the images are not as clear as I would like which would have made it easier for you.
    Do you think, then, I should keep monitoring for more activity, or take more proactive steps at this time?

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Sun Nov 8 2015 22:27:32
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    ozbugz - 1 hour ago  » 
    Thank you, Lou - Do you mean the 3rd and 4th of the second batch? Those were all of the same 'speck' while I tried to get close up with decent focus. The larger sample I had doubts about, but the 'speck' has sure scared me!
    Sorry Lou and Jim that the images are not as clear as I would like which would have made it easier for you.
    Do you think, then, I should keep monitoring for more activity, or take more proactive steps at this time?

    Sorry, I see. First batch. And I looked at 2nd batch now. Don't see any insect/bed bug related objects. Monitoring wouldn't hurt to see if anything can be found. Also, look at your objects and compare to bed bug pictures.

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    Sun Nov 8 2015 22:49:54
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    Thank you, greatly appreciate the help and professional input!!!

  12. Nobugsonme

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Mon Nov 9 2015 19:06:35
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    View bed bug images for comparison.

  13. ozbugz

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Tue Nov 10 2015 21:28:27
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    Sorry one more question and pic for the experts - this was on my neck this morning while I was on the bus to work. Ugh! I took the pics below at work, the item is on a hand basin. It's prob a bit squashed but would greatly appreciate expert opinion.
    https://www.flickr.com/gp/136704932@N03/m42BB0
    https://www.flickr.com/gp/136704932@N03/3o8V73
    https://www.flickr.com/gp/136704932@N03/Mvn135
    https://flic.kr/p/AkMtht

  14. jim danca

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Wed Nov 11 2015 8:29:40
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    The first two photos don't look insect related. Not sure about the second two.

  15. ozbugz

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    Posted 4 years ago
    Wed Nov 11 2015 16:39:25
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    Thank you So much Jim. I did check out the images nobugs linked. But - I guess I was still concerned because of the size and color, and the fact that I felt something (ick).
    You guys are a great help and reassurance.
    THANK YOU!


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