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jeffklein

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Posted 4 years ago
Tue Mar 3 2009 0:30:56
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I keep reading that there is no one providing thermal treatments in the metro NY area.... HELLO We have been doing it for months. I have contacted several writers for various papers and they don't want to hear about it. Anything that can get rid of bed bugs in one visit without having to throw out all your furniture or use a ton of pesticides must be too good to be true.We just posted a video on youtube. Check it out under bed bug and thermal treatment. Goes through the entire process. I love heat. Chemicals work well if done correctly but for the person that does not want another bite Thermal is the way to go. I have been fighting bed bugs since 2000. This is the best. Coupled with a canine inspection thermal wins the bed bug eliminating game.

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Posted 4 years ago
Tue Mar 3 2009 2:41:19
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Jeff - I've seen you posting here on and off for a while now.

A friend of mine who had an infestation before I did told me that he had a bad experience when he tried to hire you to do work for him - he told me that you canceled out on 2 separate occasions and did not return his calls afterwards. The primary reason that I did not call you when I was hit with my infestation last year

the reason I mention this point is that many PCO's post here all the time and their clients - who are sometimes users of the forum - will also post factual reviews of dealing with the PCO's and their service. It is important to have honest feedback especially when there are issues of responsiveness involved

Perhaps you were extremely busy at that point last year and could not provide the optimum service you would want to - but I am wondering if you are more responsive now
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Posted 4 years ago
Tue Mar 3 2009 9:10:37
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Actually we're working with heat as well and having very similar issues. The marketing here in the NY/NJ/PA area has proven to be a real bear. Nobody wants to hear about it or is willing to pay to get rid of the bugs in one service because the prices tends to be a little higher than the slower but still effective traditional treatment.

Jeff, any ideas as to why you're having the same problems with marketing we're having? We have a feeling it's due to the competition here in the Northeast. As we know, it's a cut-throat market and there are actually some good companies that can get rid of bugs, all-be-it after a few treatments, and suprisingly many management companies seem to be willing to save a few bucks and wait a month to get rid of the bugs vs. one day.
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Posted 4 years ago
Tue Mar 3 2009 16:17:31
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Jeff Klein-- I have told people here that AAA Superior was using heat in the region. If posts say no one is using heat in NY/NJ, do look at the dates of the posts. It was not so long ago that this was true.

JWhite -- I did not know Cooper was using heat but am glad to hear this.

There's a third company Van Helsing, which I do not personally know anything about.
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Posted 4 years ago
Tue Mar 3 2009 16:20:27
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ps Jeff Klein, I posted the video above. You can simply paste in a URL (NOT an embedded video) from youtube in any post and it will display correctly.
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Posted 4 years ago
Tue Mar 3 2009 22:37:06
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We are and have been since September 2008. The fact that you say that is part of the problem but reaching the entire community can be difficult.
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Posted 4 years ago
Tue Mar 10 2009 22:05:13
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Adele- We do our best to return calls to everybody that wants us. This is what we do for a living and we would be foolish for losing business that way. If I lost a client due to my mistake I am sorry but I honestly believe that we help everyone that calls and that includes just giving advice to people that need it without expectation of monetary reward. We do not charge someone to speak with us. We honor our warranties and we do our work carefully so that problems do not spread. Our pricing is fair and we stay abreast of all the developements in regard to bed bug control. And we are very busy. So apologize to whomever I slighted.
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Posted 2 years ago
Tue Mar 1 2011 22:47:54
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IF you don't heat too fast, how do you keep bugs from scattering to get away from the heat? My main fear is if I get thermal in my home, they will just to into my neighbours' homes through the walls.

What a beautiful home too, that sucks. It would sort of make a problem like that maybe a little easier to bare if it was in a house and nice as that. My house is garbage, it's ugly and I hate it. Bugs makes it insanity.

I am rather surprised to see that even after four treatments they have not really seemed to de-clutter or bag their stuff. Looks 100% lived in.
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Posted 2 years ago
Fri Mar 4 2011 12:36:54
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I too am curious about heat treatments in multi-family housing. Must you chemically treat the surrounding units to prevent the spread of bed bugs into other units? In a single family home I could see the benefits to an extent...
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Posted 2 years ago
Fri Mar 4 2011 14:34:54
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Thermal treatments take practice and experience to be successful. Before my company began using Thermal Remediation by Temp-Air, I was very skepitcal about heat, I also thought that the bed bugs would just run to other units. One thing to keep in mind is that heat treatments use convection rather then conductive heat. Because the enitre area is hot like an oven it makes it difficult for bed bugs to run to other areas beause the heat is surrounding them.
With that being said, I observe bed bug movement usually around 100 degrees, I beileve this is the most likely time for bed bug escape, and trust me they do try to run to cooler spots. This is when experience is needed to be successful. Before beginning a thermal treatment the treatment provider needs to be aware of potential escape or cool areas in the building. These areas must be addressed, whether that means using a dust application behind outlets or munipulating the heating process to eliminate these possible escape points- again this all comes with practice and experience. It is also a good idea to inspect surrounding units before treatment and the use of monitors like climb-ups are very helpful.

But from someone who has used chemical treatments and heat treatments, I really believe the heat treatment is the way to go.
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Posted 2 years ago
Fri Mar 4 2011 22:34:37
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From what I was told this afternoon,
The heat will draw the bugs out as one of the attractants for them is heat (ei body heat) rather than repel. Hoping this is true.
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Posted 2 years ago
Fri Mar 4 2011 22:40:58
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victimized - 3 minutes ago »
From what I was told this afternoon,
The heat will draw the bugs out as one of the attractants for them is heat (ei body heat) rather than repel. Hoping this is true.

Not so true. They're not going to get up and start moving toward the heat thinking some monster size host just entered the room. They will move because the heat is threatening their life, not directing them to a food source.
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Posted 2 years ago
Fri Mar 4 2011 22:47:33
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Hmmm, that is a bit of a worry then, isn't it?

They said both neighbours on either side looked clear. Hoping this is right, as well. Just burn the effing house down!!!!
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Posted 6 months ago
Mon Nov 19 2012 0:57:06
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John I must not be looking this up as much as I should. We have videos of bed bugs moving [i]towards the heaters. In fact you can see in one of our videos online where there were no bed bugs visible until after the treatment was into its second hour. They werent running out the door-they were moving towards the heater.
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Posted 6 months ago
Mon Nov 19 2012 12:24:32
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Hi Jeff,

The issue of bedbugs movement with heat was discussed at length by Stephen Kell's. Sadly some pest firms use conductive heat which bedbugs run from and drives them into the crevices of the room. However it sounds like you are on the right path with a convective heating solution which does actually cause the bedbugs to run towards the heat until they die.

Hope all is well with you, we missed you in Vegas this year.

David
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Posted 6 months ago
Mon Nov 19 2012 13:06:08
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Thanks for the clarity on that, Jeff and David.