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  1. TXbedbugger

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    Posted 9 months ago
    Tue Aug 14 2012 20:05:21
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    Saw this on Youtube. Its like a Packtite for furniture:

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    Interesting. If it works, something of this size to be used indoors might be very useful.

    It was a bit strange that the video notes a temperature is placed in the coldest spot. How does the user know where "the coldest spot" is?

    I would think with a machine of this size, there would have to be a more complex system of monitoring.

    I would like to read some testing data.

    What I understand about heat is that it is awfully tricky making something of any size which gets the job done with no cold spots. Making sure that happens, every time, is key.

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    Posted 9 months ago
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    It looks like a mega-size PackTite closet or a commercialized version of the U of FL method. I think "coldest area" is the area they'd expect to be most insulated. I think PT has a similar approach, through they use multiple probes in the closet.

    I'm glad something like this has seen the light of day (but hope David is getting a cut of this).

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    it seems like it would be pointless to do if the BBs are also hiding in the walls or baseboards, they would just return to the bed

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    My thoughts (and I'm not an expert):

    1. If in a multifamily unit (or a shelter), it would be nice to know that people that moved in had their items run through this. It looks like it is a two person job.
    2. In the case of existing cases, it seems like it could be part of the treatment. Yes, if they are in the baseboards, it wouldn't kill them and they would come back to the bed. But, you could have a heat treated bed and then put passives or some other monitoring device on it. It may end the use of climb ups if one knew that the bed could be treated once a week (what a lot of work, but probably no worse than steaming).

    I see Endless Nightmare's point, I wouldn't trust a hotel that did only this...maybe in conjunction with steam. I don't know much about BBs, but it seems like they would be running around as you load the mattress in.

    It will be interesting to hear the expert opinions.

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    Posted 9 months ago
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    Ecolab is a major PCO in the lodging industry (among other lines of business). The Thermal Enclosure is available in select markets. It looks like this is in addition to other methods. It looks like the video just simplified the concept for a non-technical audience.

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    Posted 9 months ago
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    cilecto - 18 hours ago  » 
    It looks like a mega-size PackTite closet or a commercialized version of the U of FL method. I think "coldest area" is the area they'd expect to be most insulated. I think PT has a similar approach, through they use multiple probes in the closet.
    I'm glad something like this has seen the light of day (but hope David is getting a cut of this).

    Hi Cilecto,

    The Packtite Closet (FAQ) ships with one temp probe, unless that's changed. But when David Cain tests products like these, he places temperature detectors all over inside. So I'd be more concerned that an external entomologist had done such tests, moreso than the end user's ability to monitor multiple spots.

    However, I suspect more in terms of monitoring will be needed by users also, with such a large device. The University of Florida method demonstrated in their Bed Bugs Manual (see Comprehensive Guides in the Resources page) shows at least four data loggers.


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