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Russian PCO said Malathion (Carbophos, Mercaptothion)
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I live in far eastern Russia, and I had a PCO here say that they use Malathion (Carbophos) pesticide here. I believe it was from the USSR days, though I read that it can be harmful to humans when it breaks down into Malaoxon.
Would this kill BBs and if so, should the house be vacated for a period of time (or each time they spray)?
The other chemical they mentioned was 'fufafon' (phufafon, phuphaphon???) But I can't seem to find anything on that.
Thanks,
ADRMalathion:
http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC32924 -
Are you sure it's not chlorofos?
Margaret in St. Petersburg seems to have been treated with that. She had great success in one treatment.
See: http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/what-is-this-chemical?replies=8
and http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/russian-miracleMalathion was used decades ago in the US as mentioned in this article. though it sounds like bed bugs were developing resistance to it at the time.
http://bedbugger.com/2008/08/25/bed-bug-lessons-from-the-past/But I am not an expert, and will leave this to those who are.
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BugBoy911
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Malathion is a smelly pesticide and usually used outside for agricuture. What their using is really really old school dangerous technology which can have allergic consequences as well as respiratory exposer and even possibly dermal exposer to the client. I've only used Melethion one time and it will be the last time I use it period. I wouldn't let them use it, but that is just me, and I don't live in Eastern Russia. Get the BED BUG COVERS IMMEDIATLY. Covers are the most important part of a bedbug job, and without them its very difficult to control a bedbug job infestation for the long term. You'd be better off going to the hardware store and picking up pyrethrin and bedlam. I"m not gona get into a 2 page essay on how to use both of them, but you'd probably have better luck than with Malathion. But then again you don't know what to look for and have no idea what your doing, sooooooo, Melethion with the Licensed professional "we hope," wins. I'd recommend opening the windows for a mininum of 6 hrs depending how potent it is in there when there finished. Good luck, if you need any advice or guidance send a message.
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BugBoy911,
If people need advice or guidance on this forum, I recommend they post their questions publicly, so many people have the chance to try and respond.
Your advice to "go to a hardware store for some pyrethrins and bedlam" isn't all that helpful, actually.
I think our friend in Russia has not been here in 5 months, so it's all moot anyway.
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My goodness covers are the most important part of dealing with bed bugs, maybe that is where I am going wrong, over 9,500 cleared infestations with an average duration of under 28 days from start to finish maybe it would be faster if I used those mattress covers that were developed for dust mites and not bed bugs.
OK joking aside the point I am making is that it is not just a matter of what you use but how you use it and what steps people taken post treatment to limit the problem and help with the treatment of the property.
Speak to your potential pest controllers and ask them about what steps they will take and what instructions they want you to follow.
Product wise I have seen chlorofos used extensively in the UK until it came off the market in 2008 although I am not familiar with the list of approved chemicals for Russia if you can find a succinct list let me know and I will have a look to see what is on it and what I know of being used in the UK.
Hope that helps.
David Cain
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