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mcb00
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Fri Feb 10 2012 20:45:31
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Hello,
I've read all the advice on prevention already posted as well as a lot of information on bed bugs in general. However, I still have some questions, especially given my particular situation. I live in Apt complex (40 units) in Phoenix, Arizona. The landlord, manager and many of the neighbors are uncooperative.
The landlord just blames us saying we brought them in from the bus or school (nevermind that 1 in 3 neighbors has them and that we see new mattresses at the garbage every day). The manager gives the neighbors stuff that they should spray themselves (which is illegal), telling them it's safe because it's watered down! She is not licensed and never hired a PCO.
She uses bug bombs on apts regularly, tells people to place their mattresses on the hallways where she says the heat will kill the bugs, allows neighbors to pick furniture from the garbage and even asks neighbors who are infested with bed bugs to go inside other people's apartments and help her do repairs or remodel apts for new people moving in.
We had to hire a PCO and pay for our own treatment, yet we live across from a neighbor who has them. Another two neighbors who have them live across the hall from us and another one who is heavily infested is right below us. We need to have the adjacent neighbors treated or we'll never get rid of them, but if we report that the landlord won't treat them we may get in trouble and he won't renew our lease. They don't allow you to make an anonymous report because they need to come and see that there is evidence of bed bugs in your unit.
My questions are:
1-What can we do to make sure the adjacent units get treated?
2-Our bed frames don't have legs. Is there any alternative type of passive monitor we can use?
3-Our PCO treated with Bedlam and Temprid SC .06% (4 pts). He said the chemical is safe (organic) and stays for about 1 month. Is there anything other than food-grade DE that we can to provide a safe barrier that will repel the bugs or kill them as they cross? Something we would put at the entrance doors and on the balcony that is right above the infested neighbor.
4-We have been using Cedarcide (Cedar oil and silica) as a repellent . Does anyone know if it is effective in preventing the bugs from biting us or as a protection wall that prevents them from getting in the apt?
Thank you so much for any advice. I really don't want to spend another $300 and suffer this pest for another year just because the neighbors and the landlord don't care about others.
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Redwingsrule19
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Fri Feb 10 2012 21:12:49
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How did they treat? Did they just use chemical or did they use some sort of heat to treat as well, such as a steamer?
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mcb00
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Fri Feb 10 2012 22:32:03
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Redwingsrule19 - 1 hour ago »
How did they treat? Did they just use chemical or did they use some sort of heat to treat as well, such as a steamer?We did not have a heavy infestation. Just under 10 bugs were found in the whole house and most were dead. We registered everywhere and I mean every-where. They only used the pesticide (Bedlam and Temprid)--no heat. I presume we didn't need heat anyway since the infestation was mild.
Our main problem is that we keep getting lone bugs, presumably from the neighbors. We find 1-2 alive once a month but when we register the whole apt there is nothing: no poop, no blood stains, no eggs or dead bugs. Even the PCO can't find anything and he already told us he is confident we're not the source. The bugs are not staying here and reproducing. They come, they bite and leave.
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Redwingsrule19
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Fri Feb 10 2012 22:36:03
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It still be concerns me that no heat or steam was used. Just because no eggs were round doesn't mean there aren't any. They are easily missed. I sure hope there is no hidden issue. As far as preventing them from coming from neighbor you need to blog k their entrypoint. Under baseboards or through outlets, etc. These can all be sealed up to prevent entry
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mcb00
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Fri Feb 10 2012 22:49:19
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Redwingsrule19 - 10 minutes ago »
It still be concerns me that no heat or steam was used. Just because no eggs were round doesn't mean there aren't any. They are easily missed. I sure hope there is no hidden issue. As far as preventing them from coming from neighbor you need to blog k their entrypoint. Under baseboards or through outlets, etc. These can all be sealed up to prevent entryWell, they treated 3 times 7-10 days apart to make sure any eggs that hatched also died. Since the chemical stays for about 4 weeks, if any hatched after the last treatment I presume they will die too...
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zscho
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Wed Sep 19 2012 12:42:05
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mcb00 - 7 months ago »
Hello,
I've read all the advice on prevention already posted as well as a lot of information on bed bugs in general. However, I still have some questions, especially given my particular situation. I live in Apt complex (40 units) in Phoenix, Arizona. The landlord, manager and many of the neighbors are uncooperative.
The landlord just blames us saying we brought them in from the bus or school (nevermind that 1 in 3 neighbors has them and that we see new mattresses at the garbage every day). The manager gives the neighbors stuff that they should spray themselves (which is illegal), telling them it's safe because it's watered down! She is not licensed and never hired a PCO.
She uses bug bombs on apts regularly, tells people to place their mattresses on the hallways where she says the heat will kill the bugs, allows neighbors to pick furniture from the garbage and even asks neighbors who are infested with bed bugs to go inside other people's apartments and help her do repairs or remodel apts for new people moving in.
We had to hire a PCO and pay for our own treatment, yet we live across from a neighbor who has them. Another two neighbors who have them live across the hall from us and another one who is heavily infested is right below us. We need to have the adjacent neighbors treated or we'll never get rid of them, but if we report that the landlord won't treat them we may get in trouble and he won't renew our lease. They don't allow you to make an anonymous report because they need to come and see that there is evidence of bed bugs in your unit.
My questions are:
1-What can we do to make sure the adjacent units get treated?
2-Our bed frames don't have legs. Is there any alternative type of passive monitor we can use?
3-Our PCO treated with Bedlam and Temprid SC .06% (4 pts). He said the chemical is safe (organic) and stays for about 1 month. Is there anything other than food-grade DE that we can to provide a safe barrier that will repel the bugs or kill them as they cross? Something we would put at the entrance doors and on the balcony that is right above the infested neighbor.
4-We have been using Cedarcide (Cedar oil and silica) as a repellent . Does anyone know if it is effective in preventing the bugs from biting us or as a protection wall that prevents them from getting in the apt?
Thank you so much for any advice. I really don't want to spend another $300 and suffer this pest for another year just because the neighbors and the landlord don't care about others.Hi, I'm not sure if you got your problems taken care of already, but I wanted to say that what your landlord is doing is almost certainly not legal. Going through a very similar process, I recently looked up my tenants rights in New York, and not only is the landlord and management legally responsible for providing a sanitary and habitable place to live (they should be paying for exterminators), but it is also illegal to penalize reporting your issues to the Department of Health or the like by raising your rent or refusing to rent to you. Check your city and state's policies, and make sure you're not bearing the load and costs of something that you should have rights for.
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mcb00
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Posted 8 months ago
Thu Sep 20 2012 2:40:46
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Hi,
Thanks for your post. In Arizona the law does not require the landlord to pay for treatment--at least not clearly.
In theory it is illegal to penalize a tenant and terminate a lease for reporting a health concern. However, in practice the landlord has the right to not renew the lease without giving any explanation-I would have to take him to court and prove he did not renew my lease because
I reported him.The Arizona law opens the door for a lot of abuses. This landlord is very abusive. Yet, unless you have time and money to take him to court, there is not much you can do. What is even more unfair is that this asshole takes money from the government because a lot of the tenants he abuses are in subsidized housing. Pathetic.
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