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JRA79
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Posted 11 months ago
Wed May 30 2012 18:33:28
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If a male bedbug or unpregnant female bug "hitchhikes' into your home, you will not get an infestation and this bug will eventually just die, right? If this is the case, how are there so many cases of bedbugs? Are the females just perennially pregnant?
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Posted 11 months ago
Wed May 30 2012 19:03:22
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1. If you bring home a male BB one day and a female BB another day, they can resume making BB babies.
2. BB can't read the "only 1 BB aboard" sign you placed on the item you're bringing home. (Put another way, you can bring home multiple BB and eggs).
3. There's some research that it's a (traumatically) inseminated female that's likely to run out from a nest and look for someplace safe (like the item you're bringing home).There was some research posted here a few months back that implied that not every straggler brought to a new home will, in fact, breed to an infestation, or bringing a t shirt with one BB in it home is less risky than bringing in an ottoman with a colony in it.
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Posted 11 months ago
Wed May 30 2012 19:05:08
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If a single adult male or single juvenile of either sex is the only bedbug that gets into your home activity will never rise and it will eventually die.
The problem is that most people either bring home more than one or bring them home more than once.
This in essence is why the problem continues to spread.
The single male or juvenile exposure events are the minority by probably 1000:1 .
Hope that explains.
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Posted 11 months ago
Wed May 30 2012 19:05:50
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Interesting. thanks. I am just wasting time and obsessing before my next inspection tomorrow afternoon. Trying not to start packing, cleaning, etc if I don't have to.
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JRA79
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Posted 11 months ago
Wed May 30 2012 19:07:08
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David,
since you're reading, do you know if there is any residual effect to a PPM treatment? Like if you are treated in january and bring home one in May, will the leftover chemicals behind the walls attract and kill the one you bring in? -
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Posted 11 months ago
Wed May 30 2012 19:20:02
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PS, David tells me that the "escaping batted female" is a fallacy.
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Posted 11 months ago
Wed May 30 2012 19:21:54
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Hi,
The concept of preventative treatments for anything should have been left behind when the ark set sail and even more so with bedbugs.
Exposing an insect with an amazing ability to interbreed in a small population and still be viable is asking to get rapid onset tolerance and eventually resistance, oops seems that message is too late for bedbugs as they are highly tolerant.
Why people don't monitor for roaches an use gel bait when needed, inspect for other issues and deal with it needed and get a little more Pro Active with bedbugs.
Its a simple message but traditionally the consumer feel it does good. I have always said the best way to use chemicals is only when needed an then in correct quantities which never to excess. It also makes sense when you think about your health and your environment. Obvious question but which is better, live in a sprayed house or not? I am not saying chemicals are scary, they are safe if used correctly and safer when used sparingly.
David
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Posted 11 months ago
Wed May 30 2012 19:28:24
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cilecto - 2 minutes ago »
PS, David tells me that the "escaping batted female" is a fallacy.More accurately it was accepted when first published but later extensive studies do not support a statistically significant difference in gender at various distances throughout the property.
Often a myth perpetuates faster than the less human emotional theory applied to insects. You just a lot of it when people rush to catch up research rather than spend years of observing and drawing conclusions based on observed patterns.
David
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Posted 11 months ago
Wed May 30 2012 19:33:51
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It wouldn't have been a preventative treatment. We were infested and had 3 treatments by a very reliable PPM in January, paid for by our building management company and we were subsequently cleared 60 days later by a K-9. I am fearing re-infestation now and having an inspection tomorrow but wondering if there would have been any residual effects to kill any new bugs that came in, say 3 months later.
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Posted 11 months ago
Wed May 30 2012 19:43:08
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OK that's different.
Check the label and see what it says. I don't beleive in relying on residual chemical action as you in all honesty would be better residual affect with DE and all my post treatments are encouraged to monitors and have sensible housekeeping routine based self inspections.
David
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Posted 11 months ago
Wed May 30 2012 19:50:04
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The PPM told me there was a residual effect to the chemicals they put behind the walls that could last up to a year. Wondering what you thought. I'm sure she's not telling me a story, and she is very knowledgeable about preparation and has been amazing to deal with....not sure how much she knows about actual bedbugs and treatment.
Thanks for answering with your perspective. I appreciate it.I have been self-inspecting, making myself crazy over every tiny black dot. My son doesn't react to bites so I've been doing a lot of pulling his bed apart (twice in the past 2 weeks, finding nothing. the multiple mosquito bites on all members of my family really aren't helpful at all) and then I saw that bug that 3 ppl here said definitely wasn't a bedbug but it looked like a nymph to me...all of the pictures blend together after awhile. So I am having a K-9 and a human inspection tomorrow. Can't wait for this to be over....whether it's tomorrow, or 60 days from the start of my new treatments.
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Posted 11 months ago
Wed May 30 2012 20:05:34
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Hi,
Paul Bello would be a better person to ask about chemicals than me, there is such a vast difference between the US and the UK. For example I have never needed to apply chemical into walls and find the concept quite alien, I can't think of a product in the UK that you would use that way.
I appreciate the over obsessing that can occur when people are not fully taught the facts. I think the dot checking will ease with bedbug blue and if you look up my white paper on furniture optimisation you can apply the logic to limiting potential bedbug impact which in turn enhances early detection.
David
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