nuvan prostrips and hot shot pest strips use in home(12 posts)
i recently had a PCO come in and part of their methods was to bag all the items in your home that can't be laundered and place a "nuvan" prostrip in each bag. they charged something like $25 per bag !!
just wondering if anyone has in-home experience using these products besides using them in attics, basements, and other large "rooms" that aren't occupied.
i purchased several of the hot shot pest strips as well as a large pack of the nuvan prostrips on ebay
and just want to take safe measures for use of them.
anyone know where to buy... NOT online... big clear plastic bags??
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Using DDVP strips in bags with items is technically an Off-label usage (i.e., it's not entirely legal because the strips aren't being used in the way that they've been tested.)
At least one pest management pro discusses using the strips that way. I used the strips in a similar way on my own to treat items that weren't in the house during thermal treatment.
However, I did so knowing it was an off-label usage, and I made darned sure that the containers (I used Rubbermaid containers sealed with duct tape) were as airtight as I could make them AND I stored them outside which is more consistent with the label usages--DDVP/Nuvan is labeled to be used in unoccupied structures.)
I'm not trying to encourage or discourage you from using DDVP/Nuvan strips as part of your fight against bed bugs, but if you're using the chemical in an off label way, it requires a little extra education on your part to be sure you're being as safe as you can since you're essentially using them in a way that isn't technically legal. Remember that the chemical involved is the last organophosphate labeled for use in the US. PMPs don't want to have that one taken from their arsenal, and bed bug sufferers don't want to see a good solution disappear even if we aren't professionals. From where I sit, that means that those of us who use it not only have a greater burden of research to make sure we're using it as safely as we can so that we don't hurt ourselves, we have an additional burden to use it responsibly so that it doesn't get regulated away. And any time you're stepping outside the guidelines for safe usage, you're doing something more risky than if you're using them as they are labeled, so just make sure you really know the ins and outs of the chemical you're working with and how to use it safely before you use it yourself.
Personally i don't have any experience with these but I've done my research. If you use them in rooms, it has to be unoccupied. Also it's a bad idea for bed bugs because it causes them to scatter and burrow deeper into the home.
The best uses for these is what was recommended to you. Items that normally can't be treated (such as electronics, etc) you would throw them into a plastic bag or plastic container and throw a strip in there. Put it outside because of ventilation issues when opening the container. Leave it up to three weeks, or three days if you're certain there are no eggs in those items.
It's funny this should be posted today as I just re-shot a new episode on these because the old ones were outdated with University of Kentucky's recent paper on the topic. It should be up by tomorrow and will post it when it is.
Buggyinsocal, you are incorrect when you say it's an off-label usage to use these in bags. Here is the following taken directly from Nuvan Prostrips Label:
For Control of Bedbugs and Bedbug Eggs
NUVAN PROSTRIPS may be used to control crawling bedbug nymphs and
adults exposed to product vapors for 48 hours. In difficult to treat areas, a
minimum treatment time of 72 hours will provide better results. Strip may
be used to control bedbugs that have entered various items in an infested
structure including, but not limited to: electronics, appliances, footwear, art
work, collectibles, plush toys, clocks, radios, wall hangings, telephones,
computers, printers, mattresses, box springs, books, lamps, furniture and
other such items. Place infested items in a suitable plastic bag, poly sheeting,
container or room that is closed to contain the strip treatment. Plastic
bags or poly sheeting should be at least 2 mils thick. The closed volume
for treatment should not exceed the volume to be treated for the size of
the strip used. Take care to avoid direct contact of the strip with the surface
of items being treated. Seal items in the containment for a minimum
of 48 hours to kill bedbug nymphs and adults. To kill any bedbug eggs, if
suspected to be present, seal items in the treated space for seven days.
Seal plastic bags and poly sheeting with as much air space around the
treated article as is practical as this will enhance the exposure to the product
vapors. Proper seal can be attained by any appropriate manner such
as the use of tape, twist ties or other means. Professionals should test for
adequate seal by testing for the escape of air from the sealed bag. Identify
sealed treatment by a label indicating a pesticide treatment is in process
that should not be disturbed by unauthorized persons. The label should
include the date, pest professional person or company responsible and
contact telephone number. When treatment is completed, remove treated
items from the treatment in a well ventilated area and air out for a period of
not less than two hours.
Here's the link:
In addition, most states permit the use of pesticide as long as you are using it in a manner consistent with it's label. It's labeled to treat garbage cans, some could argue that's the same as a garbage bag. California is one state that is not like that. The pest has to be on the label in order to use it which makes Nuvan California residents only option.
Sorry forgot to mention that U of K's recent research indicates you should leave the strips in with whatever you are treating for a minimum of 2 weeks and even still some eggs did not die in your harder to treat items. Bottom line, they are effective and do work but aren't foolproof.
Remember to loosely pack the bag.
Thanks for the info, Jeff. It's always helpful to have corrected and/or accurate & complete information on treatment methods.
As always you are a wealth of information
I'm happy to stand corrected.
I actually used this method on the items that weren't in my residence during thermal treatment.
Though accidents of timing and bad weather, the strips stayed in the containers for at least two weeks. I'm fairly sure that there weren't bugs in the items by the time they were treated, but I wanted to be extra safe.
I should add, however, that when I said it was an off label usage, I was repeating what I thought I'd been told. I'm a fan of using the strips for items that can't be treated with heat, so I'm glad to hear that it's not an off label use.
For my own edification, was I just repeating something that's been on the label all along and we here didn't know that, or did the labeling change?
Again, thanks for pointing that out.
The label changed but it was a while ago. I would say at least 2 years ago.
Just a reminder: if you paste in the link for the video, it will automatically embed. (I changed it above.)
I like that still screen above. Minus a bald head and white lab coat, I'm rocking my Dr. Evil pose.
I don't know how YouTube videos "decide" where to create the still. That is a pretty funny one, Jeff.
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