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Beth
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Mon Mar 8 2010 18:31:05
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is it possible? with caulking and steaming and vacuuming? I have fleas and bed bugs. I will not do more chemicals. should I just move then? I can't seem to make up my mind b/c moving means relinquishing everything for 18 months, possibly selling my truck. But my dogand I are getting sick now after 4 treatments and me spraying alcohol. The vet mentioned toxicity. Thermal is like $3000. that's insane.
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Mon Mar 8 2010 19:44:47
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Beth - 1 hour ago »
is it possible? with caulking and steaming and vacuuming? I have fleas and bed bugs. I will not do more chemicals. should I just move then? I can't seem to make up my mind b/c moving means relinquishing everything for 18 months, possibly selling my truck. But my dogand I are getting sick now after 4 treatments and me spraying alcohol. The vet mentioned toxicity. Thermal is like $3000. that's insane.
thank you.
amyThere are definitely non chemical and low impact approaches to rid you of your problem. Perhaps a free inspection to determine what can be done if you are interested.
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Wed Mar 10 2010 12:34:23
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greenapplepest,
Offering free inspections is a form of marketing. You've done this on a number of threads and I've asked you not to do this on the forums.
I know, you're going to respond that it's a free inspection. But what happens when a free inspection turns up bed bugs? Then it's a first visit in a long line of the same.
If you are helpful on the forums, people will get in touch with you about your services. But please stop offering them on the forums.
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Wed Mar 10 2010 14:24:54
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Nobugsonme - 1 hour ago »
greenapplepest,
Offering free inspections is a form of marketing. You've done this on a number of threads and I've asked you not to do this on the forums.
I know, you're going to respond that it's a free inspection. But what happens when a free inspection turns up bed bugs? Then it's a first visit in a long line of the same.
If you are helpful on the forums, people will get in touch with you about your services. But please stop offering them on the forums.We had this discussion and you told me if I charge for inspections usually which I DO then if I offered free inspections it wouldn't be considered marketing which I'm not.I have been in this industry for over 13 years and don't need this site to market my services in fact I pay to advertise and have a large referral base thank you very much. I'm offering people in need an inspection for free so that they can get a one on one consultation which is better then just writing about it. I never saw a keyboard kill a bedbug or even find one. Calling me out the way you did just now is ridiculous and ends my tenure here on this site. You talk about common sense and if you had any would have sent me a PM. I wish you and all your Bloggers luck but I will never add my 2 cents again.
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Wed Mar 10 2010 14:55:57
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Hello,
Have you researched diatomaceous earth? I ordered some from amazon. It hasn't arrived yet but I'll post when I've tried it.It's a "mechanical" killer- it's not poisonous but it kills the bedbugs by cutting up their exoskeletons when they pass through it.
You have to use an air-filter-type mask when you use it though- it's not poisonous but as with any dust, it can damage your lungs if you breathe it.
I'd suggest you look it up- there's a lot of info on it on this site- it sounds like if you use DE properly, it's very effective, and also very cheap.
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Wed Mar 10 2010 17:26:19
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Hi Amy,
I agree DE may be helpful... be careful not to apply it in the open or in places where it can be disturbed and made airborne. It important to keep it out of your eyes and lungs.
Storing items for eighteen months is not cheap and it is not usually necessary... Studies that demonstrated that bed bugs can live for 18 months were based on an ambient temperature of fifty degrees F.
Bed bugs live for much shorter lifespans at higher temperatures... the same study found that adults lived about 34 days on average at 97 degrees F.
These studies were done in the late 30s and early 40s... I think the important point is that it is not real practical to try to starve bed bugs out. Bed bugs are the camels of the insect world when it comes to water conservation.
If you compare all the costs of storage and replacing items that you will need in the interim... I suspect that you will end up spending roughly the same amount as the thermal treatment.
There are companies that specialize in non-chemical treatment, but it is labor intensive and usually more expensive than chemical treatment.
Can you expand on the reasons that you believe that you and your dog are experiencing chemical toxicity? Which chemicals have been used in your residence?
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Beth
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Wed Mar 10 2010 20:16:34
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Hi Doug,
thanks. Me and my dog both have tremors, nausea (she has vomited) and joint pain. She is limping and my back is killing me. The vet actually mentioned it as I told him after I sprayed alcohol in an unventialted space she began shaking. Three days later, she needed IV fluids. I get these headaches. I don't know. She shakes still sometimes even though Ihave washed the floors with dish soap to try to get rid of the alcohol I put down. In this apartment, alcohol, Suspend and Tempo Dust were used. In my last place we sat in these two plus Phantom, Demand and Bedlam. Same pco just kept using different stuff.It seemed after the Suspend and Bedlam we began getting ill. Tempo Dust gave me an adverse reaction also on fist spray, but I threw that mattress out. I want to know how to clean my place so I can steam treat safely. Get rid of the chemicals. I ordered DE once, wasn't food grade. Opened it up and immediately got nauseous. I sort ofhave a particular problem. Because of a botched benzo detox and traumatic withdrawal, my gaba system is shot. So any chemical (including those in foods) I can't tolerate, it sends me back into w/d symptoms. Essentially, the process made the cell walls of the gaba neuron more permeable. So like I can't have b vitamins or I will freak out, tinnitus, tremors, etc. Thus why I have multiple chemical sensitivity. My dog is just old and gets dehydrated easy from a life-long metabolism problem that was never discovered (vet thinks thyroid). The only other possibility is the bugs are a vector for some disease. In an case, we're really not suited for living in a sea of pesticides. Phantom seemed to not give much problem don't know why. I couldn't afford thermal at $3000. My stuff is worth less, truly, or at least what I'd need to begin again in a room somewhere. My only concern is if I move I lose my housing subsidy. Labor intensive---yes. I'm trying to figure out how I, alone, at 100lbs. am going to make this happen. Thanks Doug.
oh, and green apple pest pm'ed me and was very helpful with advice knowing I wasn't in his area.
I have a scunchi hand steamer--would this rise to 130 degrees. And how to clean up the old pesticides. Thanks.
Amy
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