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  1. mp7ski

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    Posted 2 months ago
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    Well, straight to the point...

    I'm moving, plan on renting a 20 foot uhaul, throwing out our furniture, and having the rest of our belongings fumigated in the moving truck.

    My issue has been coordinating everything and have met roadblocks every which way. Uhaul may not be able to get me a 20 foot truck when I need it... great.

    The fumigator has been butting heads with me since the start. They are the only liscenced company that can use vikane in my state so I have no other options.

    He doesn't want to tarp the truck which I argued with him over and over about. I told him the truck needs to be tarped, I've talked to Andy from bed bug fumigation specialist who does moving trucks all the time and he said so himself. He's frusterated with me and almost to the point of telling me he won't do it. So I don't have much more leway with this guy.

    So what do I do. Keep insisting on getting the truck tarped or just go with them doing it without the tarp. I'm doing one or the other regardless.

    The consensus on here is that the truck needs to be tarped... and I get that. But what would you guys do. If he won't tarp it do I just roll with it?

    I'm at my breaking point... it's happening in less than 2 weeks and I'm running out of time. Moving is stressful enough... let alone with bed bugs... let alone with roadblocks from every direction.

    Any kind words from you guys? Thanks for your time!

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    Posted 2 months ago
    Wed Aug 9 2017 16:23:23
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    Is the concern that the treatment will not be as thorough without the tarp to hold the gas inside the truck?

    HVAC/Locksmith/Bed Bug Control for a non-profit homeless shelter and long term veteran housing.
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    Posted 2 months ago
    Wed Aug 9 2017 16:56:00
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    Yes, I mean everything I've read especially on here says the truck needs to be tarped. It's not that I don't trust this company, it's just that I don't trust the process of not tarping it. That and they've never done a moving truck, they've done semi cabs and trailers before but never moving trucks. It's not common in Michigan. I'm sure I'd be one of the first in the state to do it.

    If they didn't tarp, it's not like they'd be just opening the door a bit, sealing what they opened and then pumping in the gas. They want a little room in the truck to set up fans to circulate the fumigant and would tape any questionable areas that the fumigant would obviously escape from. I just think he doesn't want to tarp it because of it being more work. It would also cost me quite a bit more to have it tarped. He quoted me around $1000 without the tarp but it will most likely end up around $2000 - 2500 to have it tarped due to the cost of the poly plastic they'd be using and the extra fumigant.

    Money really isn't a concern as long as it works or gives me the best possibility of getting out of this situation.

    However, there have been people on here that have had failed fumigation and they attributed it to the truck not being tarped.

    I just wish this company would cooperate with me a bit. I know I need to just let them do their job but I also am investing a lot of money into this and want to make sure it's done right.

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    Wed Aug 9 2017 17:49:08
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    I say hold your ground on the tarp it's your money out of pocket. If he's not willing to work with you that's not very professional of them. If you go without the tarp and it fails you are back at square one just spending more money.

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    If they've never done a moving truck, that is concerning. Doing an empty semi or something would be different. Is it possible to drive the moving truck and treat it somewhere else?

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    Nobugsonme - 4 hours ago  » 
    If they've never done a moving truck, that is concerning. Doing an empty semi or something would be different. Is it possible to drive the moving truck and treat it somewhere else?

    It is concerning no doubt, but I live in the middle of lower Michigan and rose pest solutions is the only company licensed to use vikane in my state. I'd have to drive to Chicago or down to ohio, which is a 5 + hour drive to have a different company do it and that's not an option.

    Different rose offices have done moving trucks but not this office so it's not like they'd be going in blind. They've been talking to their special services department and whatnot.

    I really don't have a choice, it's this or move most my things without being treated and I just can't do that.

    There's also no companies who will perform thermal on a moving truck either.

    I'm at my breaking point, I don't know what else to do. I'm spending thousands of dollars trying to pull this off and it's killing me trying to figure this out. I'm literally moving in just over a week.

    I've been packtiting and treating almost everything with ddvp strips anyways but somethings, including from our bedroom won't be treated before hand like our big screen tv, washer and dryer, microwave, satellite receiver, and a few other things.

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    Posted 2 months ago
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    They said they've done semi cabs and had to tarp them cause people travel and sleep in them so they are easy to get infested. This is the one bright spot I see in them treating my moving truck.

    I know it's different but at least they have experience using vikane in one for or another. I guess ill just have to trust them at this point and hope it works. I can't move without getting my stuff treated one way or another. I don't see many other options.

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    Well I'm screwed... they backed out altogether, said they aren't interested in the business right now. I think I pushed them to do the tarp too much. I pleaded with them to just do it without the tarp and they wont. Idk what I'm going to do. I'm freaking out in a way I never thought possible. Help me!

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    You still have other options thankfully. Maybe you could have the truck heat treated.

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    mp7ski - 19 hours ago  » 

    Nobugsonme - 4 hours ago  » 
    If they've never done a moving truck, that is concerning. Doing an empty semi or something would be different. Is it possible to drive the moving truck and treat it somewhere else?

    It is concerning no doubt, but I live in the middle of lower Michigan and rose pest solutions is the only company licensed to use vikane in my state. I'd have to drive to Chicago or down to ohio, which is a 5 + hour drive to have a different company do it and that's not an option.
    Different rose offices have done moving trucks but not this office so it's not like they'd be going in blind. They've been talking to their special services department and whatnot.

    That does sound pretty good -- is there a guarantee?

    They are a reputable and well known company.

    Did you find them through BBFS?

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    I contacted Douglas products, the makers of vikane, directly and they referred me to rose out of grand rapids.

    I'm just completely shocked and extremely angered at them backing out altogether... I already rented a uhaul for multiple days and have been preparing for this for months. I'm literally freaking out on what to do. Can't even find a company willing to do a thermal on the moving truck.

    I called Douglas products again today looking for a different fumigator and the next closest one is in Toledo or Chicago and I just can't drive that far. I'm just so

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    The only options I see is I could try and find a thermal company again that will do a moving truck. I could try and perform my own thermal on the truck. I could throw out anything I can't heat treat myself and start fresh. Or I could drive the uhaul 250 miles down to Chicago and have McCloud pest services fumigation my truck.

    I'm leaning towards the last one. It would cost me way more than what it would have cost me having rose do it. Renting the truck, driving it down there being followed by my gf in our vehicle, dropping it off, driving back home, then driving back down there days later and then driving the truck back would cost me about $1000 not including the fumigation cost, not to mention the amount of my time it would take to do it.

    Idk what to do, what do you guys think?

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    Well I talked to a couple companies out of the Chicago area, McCloud and Fumigation Services and Supplies. FSS will be closer to me by a little bit and I liked what I heard. Neither of them tarp the truck. They seal any bad spots on the truck, open the back door some, tape poly sheeting over the door opening and pump through a taped hole in the sheeting. I mentioned the taping and each one said it was not necessary. They say they monitor the levels and if the level drops they add more fumigant.

    I'm thinking I'm going with FSS since they specialize in fumigation specifically and do it in a enclosed facility. I just like what I heard from them. Ya, I wish they taped the truck, but if they add fumigant as they lose it, I don't see an issue. What do you guys think?


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