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  1. Angelique

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    For almost 3 years having an irrational fear of bedbugs. This started with a rash on my leg. After that we have turned everything upside down. Found nothing but booklice, springtails and carpetbeetles (larvea and beetles). No feces or anything.
    Yesterday I had a small insect stuck to the bottom of my footh after showering, which was probably on the bathmat. It seemed dead. It is thin as a paper, it almost looked like a shell of somekind of bug. When I looked to it closer I freaked out. I have spend the day before under a big tree and there where a lot of different insects there, which where also on me. But I think this insect looks a lot like a bedbug.
    After taking foto's I stuck it under some tape, nothing came out of it (although it's but looks like it contains blood).

    See next post for Flickr album

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    Posted 2 years ago
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    the next post it worked

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    It is a true bug nymph, but doesn't look like bed bug.

    Professional entomologist/arachnologist. I consult on all matters dealing with insects and arachnids, including those of natural history and biology to pest management and forensic entomology investigations.
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    loubugs - 48 minutes ago  » 
    It is a true bug nymph, but doesn't look like
    bed bug.

    I was convinced it was a bed bug nymph. There is a reason why I'm a psychologist and not an entomologist. I'm gratefull for your reply. Thanks a lot!

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    You only posted ventral views. The one next to ruler is a bit out of focus because ruler is in focus. Could you take it without ruler?

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    I'm not at home now, so i can't take a picture right now. I took one picture from it's back and one of it's abdomen. What would you like to see? Is there still a doubt it could be a bed bug nymph?

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    loubugs - 29 minutes ago  » 
    You only posted ventral views. The one next to ruler is a bit out of focus because ruler is in focus. Could you take it without ruler?

    I don't think i can make pictures from another angle than this, because there is tape over it. Do you wan't to see it from another angle because you wan't to determine what kind of nymph it is or are you having doubt's that it could still be a bed bug nymph?

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    I believe Lou is trying to determine what kind of nymph is in the photos. It is not a bed bug. If you compare the antennae segments of a bed bug to the antennae of the bug in your photos you can see the difference in the length and shape of the segments.

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    BigDummy - 3 minutes ago  » 
    I believe Lou is trying to determine what kind
    of nymph is in the photos. It is not a bed bug. If you compare the antennae segments of a bed bug to the antennae of the bug in your
    photos you can see the difference in the length and shape of the segments.

    Thanks. My logical brain thought so, but my emotional brain keeps taking the lead.

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    loubugs - 1 hour ago  » 
    You only posted ventral views. The one next to ruler is a bit out of focus because ruler is in focus. Could you take it without ruler?

    The first picture of the 4 in the album is dorsal, the second ventral, the third dorsal and the fourth next to the ruler is also dorsal. The one next to the ruler is very blurry indeed.
    The one I posted next is also dorsal under the tape. I will try to make another picture now, but I don't think I can make a more detailed one. I can't take the tape of, without crushing it.

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    Angelique - 1 hour ago  » 

    loubugs - 29 minutes ago  » 
    You only posted ventral views. The one next to ruler is a bit out of focus because ruler is in focus. Could you take it without ruler?

    I don't think i can make pictures from another angle than this, because there is tape over it. Do you wan't to see it from another angle because you wan't to determine what kind of nymph it is or are you having doubt's that it could still be a bed bug nymph?

    As BD said. Not bed bug, just trying to see the body parts. The antennae are quite distinctive and like bed bug antennae.

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    loubugs - 29 minutes ago  » 
    You only posted ventral views. The one next to ruler is a bit out of focus because ruler is in focus. Could you take it without ruler?

    I don't think i can make pictures from another angle than this, because there is tape over it. Do you wan't to see it from another angle because you wan't to determine what kind of nymph it is or are you having doubt's that it could still be a bed bug nymph?

    Not bed bug, just trying to see the body parts.

    The most detailed dorsal view picture I can take with my phone:
    Most detailed dorsal picture

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    Angelique - 13 minutes ago  » 

    loubugs - 1 hour ago  » 
    You only posted ventral views. The one next to ruler is a bit out of focus because ruler is in focus. Could you take it without ruler?

    The first picture of the 4 in the album is dorsal, the second ventral, the third dorsal and the fourth next to the ruler is also dorsal. The one next to the ruler is very blurry indeed.
    The one I posted next is also dorsal under the tape. I will try to make another picture now, but I don't think I can make a more detailed one. I can't take the tape of, without crushing it.

    Yes, the computer screen helped out over the pad screen. You're right, there are dorsal and ventral ones. These could be lygaeid bug nymphs. The tape does mask certain details, but at least these aren't bed bugs. Just compare these to pictures of bed bug nymphs so you can see the differences.

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    loubugs - 1 minute ago  » 

    Angelique - 13 minutes ago  » 

    loubugs - 1 hour ago  » 
    You only posted ventral views. The one next to ruler is a bit out of focus because ruler is in focus. Could you take it without ruler?

    The first picture of the 4 in the album is dorsal, the second ventral, the third dorsal and the fourth next to the ruler is also dorsal. The one next to the ruler is very blurry indeed.
    The one I posted next is also dorsal under the tape. I will try to make another picture now, but I don't think I can make a more detailed one. I can't take the tape of, without crushing it.

    Yes, the computer screen helped out over the pad screen. You're right, there are dorsal and ventral ones. These could be lygaeid bug nymphs. The tape does mask certain details, but at least these aren't bed bugs. Just compare these to pictures of bed bug nymphs so you can see the differences.

    Trying to post my most detailed picture again
    Dorsal view

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    I compared to bed bug nymphs. I think the one I found was not as round, also not the same color and the end of the antenneas of this one are dark grey. Also it's legs have a 'patern light and darker grey'. But I was worries because it's derrière/but/bottum has a color in it that looks exactly like blood. And also I can't think logical when it comes to bed bugs.

    Again I want to thank you very very much for your help!

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    Angelique - 5 minutes ago  » 
    I compared to bed bug nymphs. I think the one I found was not as round, also not the same color and the end of the antenneas of this one are dark grey. Also it's legs have a 'patern light and darker grey'. But I was worries because it's derrière/but/bottum has a color in it that looks exactly like blood. And also I can't think logical when it comes to bed bugs.
    Again I want to thank you very very much for your help!

    Color is not as important because red isn't necessarily our blood that is in the insect or mite. It is just the coloration they have. Antennal morphology is different - see shapes and sizes of antennomeres of both insects. The distal part of the tibia also is darkened and different morphology from that of bed bug tibia.

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    loubugs - 10 minutes ago  » 

    Angelique - 5 minutes ago  » 
    I compared to bed bug nymphs. I think the one I found was not as round, also not the same color and the end of the antenneas of this one are dark grey. Also it's legs have a 'patern light and darker grey'. But I was worries because it's derrière/but/bottum has a color in it that looks exactly like blood. And also I can't think logical when it comes to bed bugs.
    Again I want to thank you very very much for your help!

    Color is not as important because red isn't necessarily our blood that is in the insect or mite. It is just the coloration they have. Antennal morphology is different - see shapes and sizes of antennomeres of both insects. The distal part of the tibia also is darkened and different morphology from that of bed bug tibia.

    Thank you for your thorough explanation.

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    Hi Angelique,
    Your post went into the spam filter-- sorry about that. Shouldn't happen to you again.

    I started and run the site but am "not an expert."

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