Do they leave a sticky/oily residue that smells bad ?(7 posts)
I was a part of this (very nice) community a few years ago. I thought I did have bedbugs. They were something(s) else. Hippoboscidae were entomologist confirmed. I think it was one, before having wings. I saw it had fed on me crawling away on the white sheet engorged in my blood and I crushed it. There was a 'grassy' sort of smell about the apartment. After the insect was identified I read hippoboscidae have mites as well as lice in order to feed on the pigeons as well. These clear small greenish mites (?) had the grassy smell. Backwards tape around bed legs and caulking around some plywood near a window a/c fixed it.
Fast forward to now. I have never seen a bedbug. Earlier this month I had some (8-10) bites. I have a mattress on the floor. I know that's very bad. The first of the month is coming (so I'll have a bit more money) and I'll get the appropriate tarping & gorilla tape get rid of this mattress (for dust allergies, and it has tears) to get another (cheap) mattress as well as a bedframe.
This apartment is partly caulked - I always do this for roaches. I'm doing it more thoroughly now as well.
What I wish I knew is, do they leave a residue on things? There is this horrible (makes me heave) smell being left and it is sticky and oily. I know bugs (cockroaches I have seen) leave smell behind sometimes with no other trace. Whatever this creature is, it is doing this to things in the one room apartment, mainly just near the bed. Plastic bags or lotion bottles most of all. They are nearest me, I have had skin issues before that got much worse as of this problem. If it were not for the smell I could manage much easier.
Since I have had what I thought were bedbugs before, I am uncertain. But yet, it seems ... not so hopeful. Because I heard they are so hard to get rid of. I am afraid it could be bedbugs. The smell isn't unlike corriander.
One more thing is, it couldn't have been more than a month (a bit less). Can you see them in the first stages? People here say that eggs could fall off as you carry your mattress out for instance. Is this because you can't see them? Because I have had other bug infestations I don't assume it is bedbugs. I admit I'm afraid to be blamed ... where I live they try to make you pay for things that would elsewhere be covered. I won't use this as a reason not to disclose because of what morally is right. But I'm scared.
Any insight or advice would be welcome.
Not sure exactly what you're asking but will offer some info just in case:
> As far as insects leaving material behind: Cockroachs and bed bugs leave fecal stains. You will find these fecal traces in the harborage areas. The appearance of cockroach fecal matter has been described as looking like pepper. Over time there may be a significant sized area coated with cockroach fecal stains. Bed bug fecal stains may be found on the mattress, box sprang and in harborage areas as well.
> In my experience I have not noticed a particular odor as described in reference materials being associated with bed bugs at infested field locations.
> BB eggs are about 1 mm long and pearly white. You can see them if you manipulate a flashlight over the surface as they will reflect the light making them easier to detect. On similar color material surfaces they are difficult to see but they are visible when you now what you're looking for.
> Check out the images available on this site and you can also use google images.
Hope this helps ! paul b.
And our bed bug photos: http://bedbugger.com/photos-of-bed-bugs-and-signs-of-bed-bugs/
Thank you so much for the replies!
To Paul Bello & Nobugsonme -
Firstly, I am not in the same apartment as I was before. The previous one had one type of roaches that were messier (when I did have them) until I caulked and even partly re-walled because things were kept so badly. After all of that, I never saw a roach but for a straggler that would dart through the front door. I had to tape shut my light switches and front door as well as covering & sealing all vented areas. Prior to my work though, I had seen entire families of roaches, all in a row by size. Not Making This Up. But they were allowed to rule for very long. They were not shy.
The hippoboscidae and thier small hitchhiker mites-bugs-whatever came into that sealed environment. They were gone years before I moved. I was trying to share that things can happen, in a different way. It is harder to be certain. There were other possible bugs, in other stages during this one incident. Never one bedbug though that I know of. And I never smelled this scent before in my life. I also just assumed if anything had been a bedbug in the past it would've been much harder to get rid of.
The cockroaches in this apartment are a different species. They look and act very differently. It also has a very different enviro for them. The floors are mainly torn up carpet showing bare concrete. They seak water more than anything else. They ruined my portable a/c as they went into the water reservoir tank (for condensation) where I can't reach them or poison them. They made the air from it smell like roaches. They don't live there but they visit. (I'm not caulked as well as before in the other apartment). I even once asked a PCO on the phone if there was any way to poison the roaches for this portable a/c, it's the main thing they like in here. I found one cockroach harborage in a left open ziploc with a camera I wanted to protect but had no case for, I just wanted to keep the components together. But they DO leave a smell behind and no other evidence. I had four old books, one dustier than the rest, and so I used a damp cleaning cloth with water on it. The book belonged to my grandma who is 99, and my favorite relative. They left smell on the book with the water only.
This new creature is leaving a smell also. Maybe because I have dangerous allergies, or I grew up without correction for very poor eyesight, I.e. legally blind, I smell things before anything else, or anyone else, for whatever reason.
Along with the smell is the oily-sticky residue. If anyone else had experienced this with bedbugs it would help me to know this is what they do, or not, as a lot of things have fed on me, my blood, came on bed with me through my life.
Like everyone here, I want to go back to normal. I wish for things to go away easier than what I suspect it will be. If its bedbugs it wouldn't be like the times before.
Whatever it is, I can't yet see it clearly or very much. I have crushed things crawling on me that were clear when smashed. Maybe they were the BB nymphs. I hope they aren't. But any bug I've ever had has made me more sick than before.
I am having a very hard time with this. I'm sorry if I sound humorless. I'm really down. I REALLY appreciate the replies & insight.
*My first question, do they leave a trail of smell that is sticky-oily-smelly? It would help to know that one thing.
*It would help to see life size eggs and first instar in a natural environment, in a photo. The photos I seem to find are enlarged and set apart in samples, or in huge clusters. But for something just a few weeks to a month happening I don't see that type situation.
Thanks again - best 2 u both,
The hipposboscid fly associated with pigeons is called Pseudolychia canariensis. The fly plus lice and mites would be parasitic on the birds, secondarily feeding on you, although possibly not so much the lice. The lice and mites are not parasitic on the fly, but there is a type of phoresy here that is at least documented in the lice, where if these hold onto the fly (louse mandibles, since it is a biting louse and not a sucking louse), they can be carried to a new habitat and possibly to a new host. Take a look at my site (some pictures already linked from bedbugger) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lou_bugs_pix and also see some video at http://www.youtube.com/user/lougentpix to become familiar with bed bugs.
There certainly can be various odors associated with many insect species and cockroach species are included here. I am not familiar with odors associated with hippoboscid flies.
Thank you for your comment and the info.
I only had the hippoboscid fly identified, though long ago by now. But as you said, the mites hitchhike so as to feed on the same prey. That was my reason for assuming it was mites, as i read this online, wikipedia or somewhere. The fly, it's true, didn't smell badly. The smaller things did, that I thought were mites. They were easy enough to get rid of though, when I had backwards tape on the bed legs. I sprayed under these open kitchen cabinets I had as well, just a few times, with a 'bed safe' pyrethrin. I was lucky as I had already painted the floors, just for the look and cleanliness. Otherwise, I can't say wether it would have been hard or not. I'm grateful I had success for anything.
For this current issue, I am moving along, with de-cluttering that I needed to do either way, but without rearranging, and using sealed bags as precaution I can't say with any definitivness, until I know more, if this is the dreaded creature, bedbug.
Thanks again, and nice to meet you, C
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