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  1. Jamesblonde

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    Ok, I am serious about this question, say if one day you carry one bedbug home by accident, since it's only one bed bug, then it shouldn't have babies so once it dies, it's gone right?

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    It could be a pregnant female. It could be a male. It could be a nymph. It could be not pregnant.

    It's bed bug russian roulette. No way to know really. Luck of the draw.

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    Research suggests females are more likely to seek new harborages. [Update: per David's post below, other research, more recently, suggests they aren't.]

    After a female is inseminated, she can lay eggs for a while. So it is possible you have a female who is laying eggs.

    I started and run the site but am "not an expert."
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    Many choose to adopt.....

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    bedbugman - 12 minutes ago  » 
    Many choose to adopt.....

    By any chance do they adopt spider beetles or booklice?

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    haha, I am glad people are having some fun with this topic, after all it's just bedbug, I understand a lot of people are going through a lot of stress over it, I think one of the reason is because bedbugs disappeared for so many years and come back, lots people in our generation don't know much about it and it's easy to panic when you don't know. I hope everyone can try to see on the positive side and maybe it's not so bad after all. Maybe it will be just like 18 century and bedbugs' like every household's pet and people will take about bedbugs like they talk about their daughter's english class. Maybe only until then. Maybe things will just get a lot worse before it gets better. So at the mean time maybe we should learn to live with it and enjoy our life while we can.

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    Nobugsonme - 10 hours ago  » 
    Research suggests females are more likely to seek new harborages.
    After a female is inseminated, she can lay eggs for a while. So it is possible you have a female who is laying eggs.

    Do we know how long she can lay eggs - or how many she can lay - before having to be inseminated again to lay more?

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    I looked this up and about all I found was this:
    http://www.pnas.org/content/98/10/5683.full

    From reading that, it seemed to suggest that one copulation could result in at least 4 weeks of full egg laying. And that female bed bugs are aggressively inseminated a lot more regularly than the once they were in the experiment, under normal infestation conditions.
    That's just what I'm taking from the information on that experiment.

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    laststrawsue - 46 minutes ago  » 
    I looked this up and about all I found was this:
    http://www.pnas.org/content/98/10/5683.full
    From reading that, it seemed to suggest that one copulation could result in at least 4 weeks of full egg laying. ...

    Remember, they also have to be *feeding* to lay eggs. If they don't have blood meals available, pretty soon the egg-laying cannot continue.

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    Right, I was just looking for the answer to the question, how often do they need to have sex to keep laying eggs. In the above mentioned experiment I link to, both groups (multiple inseminated group and the 1-time copulation group) are all fed at regular intervals.
    Thus far, I can't find information on how long they can keep laying eggs without being inseminated again & without being fed. Though I think they were feeding them at 6 day intervals in the above mentioned experiment I linked to.
    I'm just an amateur trying to glean some ideas from the information. But to me this suggests that a female that's been inseminated just once, and hasn't been fed in 5 days, can continue throughout those 5 days laying eggs in a fully normal quantity (whatever that is).

    If anyone knows something different, or is coming up with a different conclusion, feel free to correct me. As I said, I'm just trying to figure out the information I'm reading.
    And of course I'm just looking at one article about one experiment, about what's possible... in a lab experiment. Which may or may not relate to various conditions in natural infestation settings.

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    Nobugsonme - 14 hours ago  » 
    Research suggests females are more likely to seek new harborages.

    Sorry to correct but more accurate research less biased by peoples application of human emotions onto insect behavior has proven that even in advanced infestations there is no statistically different gender bias away from the center of an infestation. This is information that Richard presented in Chicago 2011 based on an analysis at our heaviest ever case.

    As bedbugs breed via traumatic insemination females have the ability to lay fertile eggs for significant periods after a mating event. The fact that most humans equate traumatic insemination to rape is why I believe this miss information spread so rapidly. However the traumatic refers to physical damage rather than emotional and psychological damage or logic would dictate that bedbugs would not breed as readily as females would avoid males.

    Hope that clarifies.

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    David--

    You've just implied my bedbugs got to have more sex in my bed than me. And they made me miserable.

    WAH! Worst roommates ever.

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    bed-bugscouk - 8 hours ago  » 

    Nobugsonme - 14 hours ago  » 
    Research suggests females are more likely to seek new harborages.

    Sorry to correct but more accurate research less biased by peoples application of human emotions onto insect behavior has proven that even in advanced infestations there is no statistically different gender bias away from the center of an infestation. This is information that Richard presented in Chicago 2011 based on an analysis at our heaviest ever case.

    Thanks, David.

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    AshamedandScratching - 18 hours ago  » 
    David--
    You've just implied my bedbugs got to have more sex in my bed than me. And they made me miserable.
    WAH! Worst roommates ever.

    HAHAHA! that made my day, Ashamed

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    AshamedandScratching - 18 hours ago  » 
    You've just implied my bedbugs got to have more sex in my bed than me. And they made me miserable.
    WAH! Worst roommates ever.

    Now this made me think. The last time I had bedbugs in my bed at home they were brought in by my soon to be ex girlfriend so I was possibly in the same boat. I have made a point of making up for it since then and I would have to have a mahoosive infestation for that to still be true.

    Glad people are picking up on the dark humour that often helps in bedbug situations.

    David

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    Have to agree with David regarding people equating traumatic insemination to psychological trauma in bed bugs. It has to do with trauma to the abdominal tissues, but these have evolved to work this way. And females do mate more than once (they have to in order to maintain an adequate sperm supply to fertilize their eggs) and don't run away and hide after their first encounter.
    Misinformation will always be passed on. Hopefully the correct information will always follow and be heard, too.

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    itchysadpanda - 8 hours ago  » 
    HAHAHA! that made my day, Ashamed

    Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all night. With a flashlight and a magnifying glass.

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    AshamedandScratching - 13 hours ago  » 
    Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all night. With a flashlight and a magnifying glass.

    Kind of voyeuristic, don't you think?

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    Louise - 8 minutes ago  » 
    Kind of voyeuristic, don't you think?

    Gotta get your cheap thrills somewhere. Most of the thrills they've given me have been expensive.

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    IF anyone has the brilliant idea of being a bed bug for halloween--be a bad-boy-bed-bug.

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    I have read a bit in the scientific literature on PubMed about "traumatic insemination" in which male bed bugs basically pierce the abdomens of their females with thier "sword-like penises" (not my words, which is why I put quote marks. This makes me question: don't female bed bugs have vaginas or the equivalent's thereof by which their males could fertilize them in non-traumatic ways? Are there any entomologists out there or others with equivalent knowledge who could let this curious medical writer know? Thanks.

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    Just nasty.


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