Did I give my friend bed bugs??(6 posts)
So my friend and I left our NYC apartments to do a science program in Puerto Rico from late May until late June. I subletted my place and he just left his apt empty. After the program was over he went home to CT and I moved in with my girlfriend in Hoboken while my place was still being rented. After about a week we met at his apartment to move an ac in. This is the first time anyone had been there since he moved out in May. We were there for lesss than an hour and we both left and no one slept there. I think he moved home to CT in early May because he told me no one had slept there for two months before this happened:
Now this last weekend I had a lot of work to do in the city and I asked him if I could crash at his place to avoid the commute. He agreed and even joked about how pissed he would be if I brought bed bugs in there. So I sleep there thursday night, wake up friday, and don't notice anything unusual. Then..... I sleep friday night, wake up in the morning with over ONE HUNDRED bites all over my legs, arms, hips, neck, hands, feet, and ears even! I get back to the apartment, and lift the covers off the bed and instantly find an adult sized bb (according to what I read online). It blows me away how this many could have got to me. I didn't even sleep under the covers!
I guess I can't be 100% sure if I brought them in there with me or not and I offered to pay for the extermination if a professional declares the infestation to be new but that seems unlikely from the amount of bites on me. I must also mention that I have never experienced bedbugs before staying at my friend's place, but at the same time he has never experienced them since he moved in there in January. So from his view, there have never been bedbugs in his apartment until I stayed there. From my view, I have never been bitten by bedbugs until I stayed at his place.
So my questions are:
1) Is it possible that I brought that many bed bugs with me and infested my friend's apartments in two days?
2) Why did it take two nights for them to start biting me?
3) How seriously is his place infested?
4) Is it more or less likely that the bb infestation was already at his place to begin with?
5) If the infestation was already there, why had he never experienced them before?
I am a bed bug expert. It is always difficult and usually impossible to be sure of the exact point of infestation. However, in your case it seems to me that the bed bugs were already there and he must have been lying to you. There is no way you could have brought in enough bed bugs to give you over one hundred bites.
BillKnools - 8 hours ago »
I am a bed bug expert...
[off-topic for the moment]
This is to request that you disclose what your particular bed bug credentials are, based on which you say you're an expert. Have you been working as a pest control operator so you see many different kinds of bed bug situations day in and day out and can evaluate them based on extensive practical field experience as a professional successfully controlling/eliminating infestations? Or are you an entomologist, such as in a university or a museum, specializing on Hemiptera/Cimicidae and maintaining a colony for study and perhaps writing academic papers for peer review and publication in journals? Do you attend gatherings such as for instance the EPA conference last February 1-2 in Washington DC, at which you give talks on subjects having to do with bed bugs? Please let us know.
Don´t be to hard on the other guy! Actually it´s not a given thing he lied.
Some are nonreactors, or reacts very lightly sort of. So he could have had bedbugs, but ain´t reaction that strong himself, or not at all. Then it´s not strange he reacts thinking you brought them in NickH.
Also your own reactions may be delayed oth, so all bitereactions may not only been from one night.
You see lots of options/angles here to consider...and the experts probably have even more.
Sorry your in such a difficult situation. Can´t say much about infestationpoint still, but if BillKnools have the experts knowledge, I would consider what he said. After all, I agree, it seems awfully many bites if you brought them, IF of course you on the other hand took precations etc.
But as I said, I´m no expert, and if someone has a big infestation, maybe it´s possible to bring lots of bugs
Hope you can solve this still being friends. Take care!
If everything you're saying is true then it doesn't take an expert to tell that he obviously had them before you got there, I mean any fool can see that. I find it very strange that he "joked" about you bringing him bed bugs before you go there, considering you had no history of infestation. My bet would be that he knew and understood what type of person you are and how responsible you are and figured you'd pay for treatment if he could convince you that you brought them to his house. Don't fall for it! No one brings HUNDREDS of bed bugs with them when traveling, that is unheard of. It sounds like he is a liar and not a true friend at all and I personally would keep my distance. Good luck
Also, why do you think no one slept there for 2 months? Hmmmm
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