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TorontoBugged
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Posted 2 years ago
Fri Oct 12 2007 13:07:21
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I've always been a little paranoid about these red prinprick spots on my skin and wondering why I only noticed these cherry angiomas (as my doctor identified them) since my bb exposure. The doctor said they are just a sign of aging but my family doesn't have a history of getting these and I've never noticed them on my parents who are much older than me.
I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed the same? Maybe it's a generational thing? My friend has these and she is of a similar skin complexion. As far as I know she's doesn't have bb.
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parakeets
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Posted 2 years ago
Fri Oct 12 2007 13:19:24
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I started noticing all my cherry angiomas when I got bedbugs, too. At first, before I knew I had bedbug bites, I just thought I was sprouting a new kind of itchy cherry angioma. I'm fair skinned, middle-aged, Celtic via Newfoundland heritage, with freckles and cherry angiomas galore. In my family we all have them, and we get more as we get older though I had them as a kid, too.
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lieutenantdan
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Posted 2 years ago
Fri Oct 12 2007 13:28:36
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Great that you brought this up.
Funny thing that you mentioned this, prior to bbs I had a couple of these cherry angiomas things but I noticed more of them during my bb infestation. I am white but not fair skinned and tan well and they do appear on my parents. They appear to be common in allot of people but maybe bbs bring more of these out. I think the medical profession as of right now are clueless about what a bb infestation can do to people, only time will tell. I wish to add that I still have small red scars from bbs that I will probably have for the rest of my life since the scars are approx. a year old. -
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Fri Oct 12 2007 14:34:17
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OMG...I almost asked this same question, but was worried you would think I'm completely nuts. I've noticed the same "red moles" as we refer to them on both myself my husband. Prior to this summer, I had maybe 2. Just in the last month, I've noticed several more..small ones. This is freaking me out. My husband says it's old age, but I don't think so. He has never had any before, but now he has several. I noticed these prior to any treatment in our home, so the chemicals cannot be the reason. Anyone else???
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lieutenantdan
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Fri Oct 12 2007 15:29:58
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If it is old age than my war with bed bugs must of aged me faster than I expected.
It would be good if a doctor would comment. This can't be our eyes playing tricks on us. -
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Fri Oct 12 2007 15:45:29
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I never bought the old age explanation. But even if it were an age-related thing, I would expect it to be more gradual. What's more is why would my husband and I both notice more of these during the same 30-60 day period? Too coincidental to be "old age". (42 yrs young to be exact) I wonder if entimologists studying BB's have noticed this since they let their experimental bb's feed on them.?? If not, maybe there's a difference between wild and farm-raised??
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Fri Oct 12 2007 16:25:58
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I don't know if they are cherry angiomas because they're so small, but I've just started seeing these on myself ... they look like red freckles. I've been getting bites for more than a month that look like typical looking bb bites, but am now thinking the problem is mites rather than bb's.
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gosh I've got these too, and after a long while without bed bugs. I had some pre-bedbugs though ... and I've also heard that they are sign of aging. Wish I could cast a spell to make them disapear but there is no spell I know of. And my skin is dry. i itches and it flakes. Any advice for my dry skin anyone?
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TorontoBugged
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Sat Oct 13 2007 18:52:34
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My complexion is olive. I have not been in the sun (except for my face and arms of course) for years. I did not notice these red spots until my bb exposure. I'm in late 30s. The spots are predominantly on my upper arms and legs and some on torso and chest. I guess they could be all over my back but I don't see that area too easiliy!
They get a little itchy when I wear synthetics and tighter clothes because they're raised. I too hope that more diligent and health researchers will explore the possible connection between bed bugs and these spots and not just accept the party line that bed bugs carry but don't spread any diseases.
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Emmm
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Posted 7 months ago
Tue Apr 14 2009 22:21:25
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Was this ever fully addressed? I know my boyfriend and I have noticed these since our infestations. He never reacted to bites, I did. My roommate has had them all her life, and I'm sure I had one or two, but now I notice them ALL THE TIME.
They're not actual bites, are they?
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BuggedBiologist
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Posted 7 months ago
Tue Apr 14 2009 22:49:10
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For dry skin, I really like the Neutrogena Norwegian Formula Lotion. Also, an oatmeal bath is really soothing for itchy skin - from dryness to allergic reactions (from bed bugs, to food allergies).
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Buy Sarna lotion for the itches.
Not sure what a cherry angioma is, but bed bug bites vary from person to person, and are damaging to the skin and the veins/capillaries underneath. There are different forms of scarring, and the chemical processes are hardly discussed. Changes can emerge as a result of cellular damage.
It's not in your head.
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Itchy-Scratchy
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Posted 7 months ago
Wed Apr 15 2009 7:14:15
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Months ago, I posted about suddenly getting these cherry angioma's. Age was suggested, but I found it odd that I never had any until we got BBs. Additionally, my 26-year-old daughter suddenly started to get them too .... so I don't see how age is a factor
I'm no doctor, but I'm sure it's BB related.
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losingit
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Posted 7 months ago
Wed Apr 15 2009 8:08:42
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I always had a few of these before bbs too, but lately I've been seeing more of them. I've read it's related to age/hormones etc. I prefer to think of them as tiny beauty spots so the more I have the more beautiful I am... ha!
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I wonder if it's stress related? Stress certainly ages one, so I can see the correlation, maybe?
Because I've yet to come across a bed bug sufferer who isn't stressed to the max.
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fed_up
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Posted 7 months ago
Wed Apr 15 2009 10:55:04
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Oh great. I hadn't even thought of those but now that I look, I do have a bunch of tiny new ones just on my forearms alone. I've always had some and they run in my family, but now I'm wondering what's going on. If this thread hadn't come up I would have simply assumed it was due to age and/or sun exposure.
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Hi,
I think the only way to draw a link between them is for a large number of people to accurately record where they are bitten and then monitor those areas for angiomas. I appreciate that it may be frustrating at times but we need to focus on facts and if we don't have facts we should approach the subjected as scientifically as possible.
If there is a link data will illustrate it whereas opinion is always at best only doing to be from a statistically small sample set.
David
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meowcat
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Posted 7 months ago
Wed Apr 15 2009 13:18:54
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I have these and have not noticed any new ones since the bb, but I think some people start inspecting themselves closer once they have bb. And I agree that its sounds plausible they could be from stress.My dad has the angiomas and I started getting them around age 20. Don't seem to be a health concern.
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Emmm
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Posted 7 months ago
Wed Apr 15 2009 15:48:00
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Meowcat, that sounds right. I do have to say where these red dots are wheren't where I had my original, traditional bites. I do think it's less related directly to bed bugs, and more towards a "effect of having" bed bugs, if that makes sense.
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BugsInTO
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Posted 7 months ago
Wed Apr 15 2009 16:42:25
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Hi
Mustard gas (Chlorine gas) and 2-butoxyethanol are two chemicals that are listed in Wikipedia as causing cherry angiomas. I found a couple of other sources on the internet that also seemed to support this.2-butoxyethanol is an ingredient in Propoxur (a general use Carbamate type insecticide that we used on our second spraying) and, yes, I have noticed that I have more cherry angiomas than I used to have.
I ran a quick search and Black Flag Ant & Roach also has 2-butoxyethanol in it.
Interesting....
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Itchy-Scratchy
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Posted 7 months ago
Wed Apr 22 2009 6:18:21
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BugsInTO, are you suggesting that all the pesticides may be causing them?
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BugsInTO
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Posted 7 months ago
Wed Apr 22 2009 8:12:31
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With the emphasis on MAYBE, I am saying that I found several references on the internet that linked 2-butoxyethanol with increased Cherry Angiomas and these references suggested that this chemical caused them. I checked the Material Safety Sheet for the last pesticide we used and it did have this chemical in it. I don't know if this same chemical is in other pesticides and I have no idea how much chemical would cause Cherry Angiomas (if it does) and if so, how many Cherry Angiomas, But I find it very interesting, especially because bedbugs require lots of treatments and the chemicals stay in the environment. But, I am happy my bugs are gone (crossed fingers) and only have a few more Cherry Angiomas.
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upagain
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Posted 2 months ago
Wed Sep 9 2009 8:05:07
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I am wondering if my "skin inspections" are whats causing me to notice these now.
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