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vampiremenionprey
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Posted 1 year ago
Thu Dec 25 2008 17:50:04
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Does anyone know of any good quality bed bug dogs in North Carolina? I would like to have my place searched before I move in.
It's in the greensboro/highpoint area and there has been one reported case at a hotel there from bedbugregistry.
Thanks and Happy Holidays everyone
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You can call two people:
1/ Bill Whitstine of Florida Canine Academy
2/ Pepe Peruyero of PepeDogsBoth are trainers of bed bug k9s. You can ask if they have dogs working in the area. I am sure there are.
Be aware that bed bug k9s are NOT alike, and even from a good trainer, the handler has a huge role to play in the effectiveness.
Be aware also that the two trainers mentioned above have different approaches. Doug Summers (who participates on this board) works with Florida Canine Academy.
Pepe Peruyero was behind the NESDCA which has a bed bug dog certification program.
I am quite certain there are effective dog teams coming out of both schools, but realize that each will have their biases.
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ps NC has had plenty of bed bugs, I am sure.
There was a store not too long ago that was found to have hundreds of unsanitized mattresses for resale...
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Posted 1 year ago
Fri Dec 26 2008 2:28:50
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Thanks No bugs and Doug for the responses. I actually was reading here about all of the mattresses in Char. NC that were being sold infested.
It seems like there is no escaping these damn things! Just when I thought our apartment was almost in the clear I found an adult today that popped in for it's holiday feast and to say Merry Christmas to my toddler. It makes me a little down trodden because we just had our 3rd treatment and I hadn't spotted any adults for a few weeks.
Fortunately when we are in the clear and do move we won't be taking much of anything with us, and our housing landlord is a good friend of my husband's. She knows the trama we've endured for the past two years with these beasts and is willing to go out of her way to make sure our house is in the clear before we move in. She hasn't had any complaints from her current tenant, but that doesn't mean anything to me really. I figured getting a dog would be our first option. She mentioned fogging before we move in, but I explained to her the rights and wrongs of typical bed bug treatment, fogging being a big NO NO. She said what ever we're comfortable with, even if it means having the house treated before we move in....just in case one decides to catch a ride even through the detailed cleaning and packing we'll be performing.
Thanks again
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Posted 1 year ago
Fri Dec 26 2008 16:22:04
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Nobugsonme, since you seem to have expert knowledge of the Florida K9 bed bug schools having different approaches, would you be so kind as, to giving us readers a detailed explanation of what those differences are. Moreover, please give us your understanding of the step-by-step certification process of the NESDCA that you claim to know a great deal about.
1.How is the testing conducted?
2.Does the testing provide for a qualified, non affiliated, third party with, the organization or its members?
3.Do these organizations offer the same K9 certification transparency that, is offered by police and fire service K9 training organizations.
Please help us out hear! If any one can gather and disseminate the information we seek, in an "unbiased" fashion, it is you.
And please, as much as there are others wanting to chime in, we would only prefer to hear from Nobugsonme on the subject matter, in this reply. As always, kind regards.
Gary Broberg
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vampiremenionprey
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Posted 1 year ago
Fri Dec 26 2008 17:34:06
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Hatesbedbugs,
As I am sure others on the forum are curious as to the same question you have regarding training for the K9's I really don't see how this question pertains to what I originally asked.
I'm not sure if this is some kind of vengeful rebuttal due to being publicly criticized or chastised on a previous thread, but I sensed a lot of animosity and sarcasm in your post, and that was not the direction I was trying to go.
I was simply asking if anyone (PCO, entomologist, or those suffering) knew of any good K9 handlers for bedbugs in the Greensboro NC area.
Furthermore I don't feel that there is any need to start a heated thread over such a simple question, and I ask that out of respect for me and fellow readers that topics such as this be discussed and dealt with in a private conversation, or if you'd like your distaste of Nobug's (helpful) "unbiased" opinion to be publicly known, please do so on a thread that is not one of my own.
Thank you.
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Gary
I think you meant to post your comment on the Bedbug & Termite Dog Research thread that you started the other day.
That thread is where the comments that you are responding to from NoBugs are located.
Otherwise readers will become even more confused about the subject of your questions, if they haven't read the previous exchange on the other thread to understand the context of the discussion.
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Vampiremenionprey,
I sent you a PM. We've been doing k-9 bedbug inspections in North Carolina and surrounding states for a couple of years now.
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hatesbedbugs
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Posted 1 year ago
Fri Dec 26 2008 18:27:16
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On the contrary Doug and Vampire, If someone makes general claims in a thread that is over and above what was initially asked then why is it inappropriate for someone to seek more specificity of the claims? Vampire, you asked for information specifically on
"bed bug dogs in North Caroline". Nobugs elaborated on bed bug K9 certification, bed bug dog organizations and training schools. I simply, sought to be enlightened about the specifics and for some reason you find fault in that. Maybe, your critique
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Posted 1 year ago
Fri Dec 26 2008 18:55:08
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hatesbedbugs, are you the same person who came here some time ago taking about K9 detection for bed bugs ... And you had a picture of a giant flea on your website? I think a member of this forum pointed it out and you changed it to a bed bug. Is that you with a different name? Just curios because I get the impression you don’t enjoy contributing here but rather like starting trouble.. or enjoy stirring the pot.Correct me if im wrong.
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A wise old pest controller once told me you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. I have never tried it for fleas or bed bugs but I think I will in the new year.
Seasons greetings and good will to all.
David
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Posted 1 year ago
Fri Dec 26 2008 21:28:03
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<blockquoteYou can call two people:
1/ Bill Whitstine of Florida Canine Academy
2/ Pepe Peruyero of PepeDogs
Both are trainers of bed bug k9s. You can ask if they have dogs working in the area. I am sure there are.Hatesbedbugs,
While No bugs did go into information about the two companies possibly using different methods of training with the K9's, my question was still answered.
Once again, the point I am trying to get across as of my last post on this thread is that I find it highly disrespectful to use such a mooching and demeaning tone through text (IE The know it all sarcasm).
I'm not here to critique anybody, but rather to get information, advice and opinions that will be helpful to me and my family. I was just simply asking of you that if you choose to post in a thread I start, please keep the information relative and respectful (in a not so know it all way with a condescending tone). If you take offense to this, I apologize, but as I mentioned prior, my goal is to not have a heated thread over such a simply answered question.
Guess arrogance and immaturity took over this one, so I throw in the flag and claim defeat.
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Posted 1 year ago
Fri Dec 26 2008 21:47:01
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KillerQueen, this is the first time I have been accused of causing trouble. As- a-matter-of fact I have had readers reply with, notes of appreciation indicating that, they had learned from my contributions. I thought I have been courteous and displayed tact and diplomacy in my writings. Killer, what is it exactly, that you find so offensive, about my comments? Please be specific so that I can do some self analysis and introspection. And no, I do not do flea detection. Now, since you know who I am please share with us, who you are and what your area of expertise is. I am happy to help you with any problem that you might have.
Kind regards
Gary Broberg
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hatesbedbugs - 13 hours ago »
Nobugsonme, since you seem to have expert knowledge of the Florida K9 bed bug schools having different approaches, would you be so kind as, to giving us readers a detailed explanation of what those differences are. Moreover, please give us your understanding of the step-by-step certification process of the NESDCA that you claim to know a great deal about.Where exactly do I claim this?
Gary,
I do not claim to be an expert on the various training methods, nor on the NESDCA certification process. I am not endorsing either trainer nor the NESDCA certification. I am simply stating there are differing schools of thought and different ideas about bed bug dogs and how they should be trained.
I point this out for readers' benefit.
It is ESPECIALLY important for readers to understand that bed bug dogs are not all the same. And it is also important for them to realize that there is a POLITICS to the field of bed bug k9s.
One aspect of this politics, which I find particularly UGLY, is the need of some (I hope a small minority) in the bed bug dog business to cut others in their profession down, or try to imply to potential customers that their way is the only way.
You're kind of doing that, Gary, when you claim in other threads, despite scientific research to the contrary, that beagles make lousy scent dogs. I do not want to discuss that in this thread, I am just giving a specific example.
Please tone down your obnoxious attitude.
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vampiremenionprey - 8 hours ago »
<blockquoteYou can call two people:
1/ Bill Whitstine of Florida Canine Academy
2/ Pepe Peruyero of PepeDogs
Both are trainers of bed bug k9s. You can ask if they have dogs working in the area. I am sure there are.
Hatesbedbugs,
While No bugs did go into information about the two companies possibly using different methods of training with the K9's, my question was still answered.Hi Vampire!
Sorry you did not feel your question was answered. Let me clarify it if I can.
I am not able to say off the top of my head which trainers work in the area you mentioned, though I knew some did, and this is why I suggested you contact the two trainers I linked to, who could tell you which of their dogs are in the area. In fact, I believe SPK9HANDLER has a Pepe dog, so he is probably one of the leads you would have found this way.
I was not trying to be cagey.
I did mention the varying approaches, because I think it is important to be aware of them.
There is a politics to the bed bug dog business, and it is important for consumers to be aware of this IMHO.
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Posted 1 year ago
Sat Dec 27 2008 11:54:14
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No bugs,
I feel you answered my question as directy as you could. I've also gotten input from SPK9 and Doug, who have both been helpful and informative. I was pointed in the right direction, which is the first key to success.
I'd rather be given a tip and make a billion phone calls then stand with my head in the dirt confused as to where to start first.Personally I feel that you were very helpful informing me that the companies use different training methods, as it is important and to my benefit. I just want to clarify that I was pointing out to Gary that while you did explain to me the companies using varient methods, you still provided me with names (and links) to reach someone who may be able to help. For that I thank you.
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Sat Dec 27 2008 11:59:06
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I just can’t help but think each time I read something you post it’s with anger or an ulterior motive. I have refrained from giving my 2 cents in most of your threads as I know how much you trash talk about pest management professionals and I don’t want to get into it with you. Most would think you should work together with PMP’s given the fact that after you make your money confirming a person has a bed bug problem (the easy part) …. “We” are the ones left to do the job of eradicating them (not as easy as you would think).
I say “we” because I’m one of the people you are so fond of. You asked me to “tell “us” a little about yourself”. Most people already know who I am …. Like you, I’m swamped with private messages, anywhere from 20 to 30 a week and like you have many people thankful for the advice and help I try to offer them. In fact I have placed my cell phone number on this site for people all across the county to see and believe me … my phone is all the buzz with people looking for help. But if you want to know more about me, here is the short list.
As for my area of expertise:I’m a phenomenal cook who enjoys making fine Italian food.
I’m a NYS & ASE certified heavy equipment mechanic. But my forte is computers, emissions, fuel injection, and electrical diagnosis in automobiles of all types.
I’m also a CPO … National Certified Pool & Spa Operator.
I have worked in the past building custom furniture and also enjoy it very much.
I can build and program the best personal computers money can buy.
I sing, play guitar, drums, and also have 40 original songs I’m very proud of.
I'll beat just about 92% of the people on earth in hand ball.
I can teach you anything you want to know about car detailing, website design, home audio & theater systems, I can draw just about anything with a pencil, the list goes on but I’ll stop there.
The last thing I’ll tell you is, some people thing I’m not so bad at killing bed bugs … But if you have a carpenter ant problem … I’m your guy …. I’m kick ass at carpenter ant infestations.
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Sat Dec 27 2008 21:14:21
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Forgot to mention I’m also Excellent at Metal Polishing & Powder Coating.
I use to do custom car and bike work (ran a small shop from my 3 car garage) .... Messy but good stuff -
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Sat Dec 27 2008 22:58:26
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A Jack-of-all-trades! That sounds absolutely dreamy. If I weren't married I may have been so inclided to ask you on a date LOL. Hell in these times who wouldn't want a BB PCO for a spouse.
Thank you Killer Queen for lightening the thread up.
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You will just have to wait for the BB 2010 calender pin up edition. Lets face it could be a good way of raising awareness we just need to find 12 HOT PCO's, their dogs or some sexy bug pics.
I may even do a tin foil swimwear edition.
If someone wants to run with this one put me down for Mr March.
David
PS I already have my BedBugBeware boxer shorts.
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Sun Dec 28 2008 21:20:53
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haha .. I can't go there .. I just can't
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Pffft spoil sport, if it worked for the women's institute I cant see it not working for us. Its hardly as if it would be the first time for all of us.
Still up for Mr March and a birthday month tin foil swim suit shot.
David
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Sun Dec 28 2008 23:23:23
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vampiremenionprey - 1 day ago »
A Jack-of-all-trades! That sounds absolutely dreamy. If I weren't married I may have been so inclided to ask you on a date LOL. Hell in these times who wouldn't want a BB PCO for a spouse.
Thank you Killer Queen for lightening the thread up.haha .. no problem =)I can install carpet also =)
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Sun Dec 28 2008 23:24:54
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If you can install new HW flooring then we're talking!
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BBcoukHome - 1 hour ago »
Pffft spoil sport, if it worked for the women's institute I cant see it not working for us. Its hardly as if it would be the first time for all of us.
Still up for Mr March and a birthday month tin foil swim suit shot.
Davidahhh David ... I have to be careful ... I once got into trouble for making jokes =)
But ..I'll shine up my Compressed Air Sprayer & take July as my spot
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