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getridofthebugs

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Posted 4 years ago
Thu Jan 29 2009 14:55:10
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Hello,
Any one hear anything about, or use Action Bed Bug Control K-9 Team? their website was njbedbugdog.com. Are their dogs really as good as they claim? Does anyone have definite success stories with them?

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John
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Posted 4 years ago
Thu Jan 29 2009 16:01:31
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My parents are in the process of using them (after we unknowingly brought our Cincinnati bed bugs to their house in NJ this Christmas...:/), and they seem to be very thorough which I'm sure you've read is the best way to take care of these annoying pests. Of course, they are paying top dollar for this thoroughness. This coming Monday they have their third and final treatment with a follow-up from the dog, so I will let you know if their treatments worked.
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Posted 4 years ago
Thu Jan 29 2009 18:30:11
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Im sorry to hear about that. I live in off campus housing at my university and we are having a problem. We hired a couple of exterminators and these damn things keep showing up (not only that, but they are showing up in rooms they were never in before). We then selected to go with the most thorough method possible. Money is not really an option anymore because we are going to end up spending more by continuously highering cheaper services to come back and "guess" where to spray. We wanted to get the dog and do it right this time, so I hope it works. I hope everything goes well with your parents too. Thanks for responding.
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Posted 4 years ago
Thu Jan 29 2009 23:46:08
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Agreed on spending the money up front in 1-2 treatments instead of 3,4,5+ waste-of-time treatments (we're having this problem now as that's what my ll hired for us :/) and having it done the first time well!
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Posted 4 years ago
Thu Jan 29 2009 23:57:04
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I just did some work for a client who used Action's K9 team and had me in to do the treatment. The dog did alert in several places and I hunted down and killed a bunch of them inside the apartment. The dog was on the money. They were happy with the K9 and I have also heard others having good results from the dog.
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Sat Aug 1 2009 20:17:36
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I THINK IT'S NOT WISE TO GIVE RECOMMENDATION ON A TREATMENT OR PEST CONTROL COMPANY UNTIL ENOUGH TIME HAS PASSED TO BE SURE THAT THE BEDBUGS DON'T COME BACK. I ALSO SEE PCOS ALL OVER THIS FORUM. IT GIVES ME A WARM FEELING TO SEE THIS COMRADERY AS THE CASH COMES POURING IN. I SUGGEST TO ANYONE LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO TALK TO SOMEONE WHO CAN SAY THAT AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS THAT THE BUGS DIDN'T COME BACK. PEOPLE TEND TO BE SO DISTRESSED THAT WHEN THEY GET SOME RELIEF THEY JUMP RIGHT UP AND POST THE GOOD NEWS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE POSTINGS YOU WILL SEE SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT AND THEN FOLLOW UP POSTS IN WHICH THE BUGS CAME BACK. IT'S ONLY GOOD NEWS IF AFTER TIME THEY DON'T COME BACK AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY USUALLY DO. I MYSELF AM LOOKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AN EXTERMINATOR WHO ACTUALLY DOES GET RID OF THESE FOR GOOD AND SO FAR NO LUCK. THIS IS A "LET THE BUYER BEWARE" SITUATION. THINGS LIKE MAKING SURE A PCO IS LICENSED ISN'T GOING TO GIVE ANY GUARANTEE AT ALL THAT THEY WILL OFFER SUCCESSFUL TREATMENT. THE NUMBER OF UNLICENSED OPERATOR IS RELATIVELY RARE BUT PCOS THAT DON'T ACTUALLY SUCCEED IN ERADICATING BEDBUGS ISN'T RARE AT ALL. IT'S COMMON.
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Posted 3 years ago
Sat Aug 1 2009 20:38:13
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I don't live in New Jersey. I have never used Action Pest Control.

However, ripoffexterminators, the people on the thread above last posted to this thread six months ago.

If the bugs had come back after treatment, those people would have had plenty of time to post here saying so.

I am not unsympathetic to people who get swindled by less than ethical pest control professionals, esp. since they give the good PCOs out there a bad name.

However, people will probably take your objections more seriously if you stop doing the equivalent of shouting. (In case you are unaware, netiquette considers typing in all capital letters to be the online equivalent of yelling at someone at the top of your lungs. It's not polite, but it is very likely to result in many people online ignoring you because you're being rude, so it might be wise to avoid doing so in the future if you want people to listen to you.)
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Posted 3 years ago
Sat Aug 1 2009 22:06:29
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Everything buggyinsocal said.

And I will add that you need to refrain from posting to every thread which mentions the PCO you claim to have had a bad experience with. Post one review in your own thread, by all means, but don't spam the site.

Like buggyinsocal, I am sympathetic about people being ripped off by shady PCOs. People need to do their research and choose carefully and follow instructions and hope for the best.

But there are good ones, too, and I'd count many of those who field questions here (free of charge) among them.
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Sat Aug 1 2009 23:17:57
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Gentlemen I have my experiences and you have yours. I take it that this site is for the benefit of people who are suffering from bedbugs and I believe that I'm doing people a service. People who know me would say I'm not the kind to pussyfoot around I just call it as I see it and in the case of bedbugs I have been dealing with them for years. They are literally all over Brooklyn NY where I have lived for the last 8 years. When you go to the laundromat you can see the people washing pillows all the time. I wish that there was someone who had shared more of this information with me before I spent thousands of dollars. To the moderator of this site I have a question? Are you more concerned about whether I use all caps and limit my postings or about getting the information out that people can use? By posting information on different threads which may seem redundant to you who have an overview of the entire forum I am reaching more people, with all of the threads here the probability that my messages will actually reach a substantial amount of people who can use the information isn't all that great. I have the unfortunate experience of going through the full process of trying to eliminate these pests without success and my experiences may be valuable to a lot of people.

To buggyinsocal: The lack of follow up posting is not by any means a confirmation that a treatment was successful and it's frankly misleading to suggest that. It only means that there was no followup posted. Why would one make that assumption at all and state it as if it was a certainty? In these kinds of internet situations people often try things for a brief time and then don't bother to continue for any number of reasons. We do however see quite a number of people who do continue to follow up who find that their only method of success is moving. Perhaps you don't like it when people don't agree with you?

For the record I don't have anything against PCO's. I do think that it's a good thing when they share information with people but I also see a lot of salesmanship going on under the guise of assistance. Pardon me if I am cynical but this is the USA of 2009. Business ethics are in short supply unfortunately in this era and in fact we have a recession which can be attributed to a large extent to those lack of ethics. In my personal experience I have discovered that PCO's themselves are in general underpaid and overworked often put into those situations because it benefits the company rather than the client. As for the actual companies themselves there is a lot of unethical activity and exploitation of people misery. There are certainly ethical and reputable people out there and I salute them wherever they may be but unfortunately I have yet to encounter one in my personal search for an effective extermination. Our first exterminator Central, sent one man also who had an asthma attack in the middle of the job and couldn't finish. I found out from another man who came to complete the job that they work these guys to death and pay them $14 per hour and after slipping him a $20 he admitted that they usually fail and that there would be more billing down the road and an open ended situation. The job cost over $1000 and they spent less than $180 on labor and materials by my estimation. I wish I could make that markup. I am in the wrong business. The treatment was completely ineffective and in addition they cut the muslin out from our sofas in such a way that we couldn't repair them ourselves because they didn't keep the cutting to the edges. They cut giant squares out of the middle and left the edges hanging to the floor in an unrepairable state. It's going to cost us a few hundred to have them re-muslined. I used Orkin next. They sent men who were not even experienced with bedbugs. They had no resident experts on staff just an eager salesman. The people they sent were mainly experienced with termites. They sent one man to do an entire 1800 square foot house with three sleeping areas and a large living room with many pieces of furniture. They also failed to eradicate the bedbugs. We did everything they asked of us and still no luck.

After Orkin we went with Action next, we told them that we had some bad experiences and I insisted upon speaking to the main management before agreeing to contract them. Assurances were made and I was told that they had never failed to eliminate bedbugs from a dwelling except in one case in which the client didn't let them finish the work. I think one need go no further than this forum to see that it's not true. An agreement was put in writing. Almost immediately the agreement was broken in a way that I would describe as brazen. We were supposed to get their top team and we get bumped the very first visit and ended up with an assistant who again had to do the entire home himself.

I'm not just blowing out spew here. I have gotten a good look at what's going on with regards to PCO's and the bed bug problem and I maintain my positions. This is a forum. It is a place for talking but I have more than talking to substantiate my observations. I have seen this all with my own eyes and I am right in the thick of the national bedbug emergency. I am out thousands of dollars and because I have a home based business I have losses incurred due to the disruption of my trade totaling close to $20,000. I am covered with scars and I limit my sleep to keep down the population growth of these pests. I don't have to agree with anyone to make them happy and if in fact the purpose of this forum is to share information I think it's not critical whether I agree with buggy in socal and I don't think that using caps diminishes my positions. It barely relavent to any serious point I make
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Posted 3 years ago
Sun Aug 2 2009 0:22:21
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Ripoff,

I am sorry you had a bad experience. I started the forums because I had bed bugs. Buggyinsocal is here because she did too. We're all trying to help others here.

As the host, I would reiterate you are very welcome to share your experiences, which may certainly help others. The following requests I am making are not about whether we agree, or not.

Please do not write in all caps. It is considered "shouting" on the Internet, is hard to read, and considered bad netiquette. We're not inventing this here; it's the reaction you'll get on other forums too.

Please do not post the same thing in multiple threads, or try to comment in every thread which mentions the PCO you had a bad experince with. This is a form of spam and won't be tolerated.
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Posted 3 years ago
Sun Aug 2 2009 0:33:32
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Greetings Ripoff,
I have a few problems with some of the things you’re spamming the board with.

First, I’m sorry to hear you are still having a bed bug issue.

You have to look at the bigger picture, it’s the very same government you mention that has taken away some of the better products that were used in the pest control industry a short time ago. It’s the very same gov’t that regulates the licensing of PCO’s. And it’s the very same gov’t who waited far too long to act on the issue with regard to Bed Bugs. (And are still taking too long to figure out how they can help the public)

As for the cost, the pest control industry should be making the money when it comes to this issue.
Who should be making money on bed bug treatments, financial advisers? When termite season is hot, PCO’s make money for said insect. Ants, flies, mice, bees, same thing .. seasons. Bed Bugs, are an all season pest, PCO’s will make money treating bed bugs. Did you complain when the gov’t dropped the standard 20% down for mortgages? What about having good credit? What about debt rations?

Listen, the fact is it’s your gov’t that is taxing the crap out of small business, it’s your gov’t that has eliminated more effective products from the market. It’s your gov’t that has doubled the licensing fees for pest control companies and techs in the last 6 months. PCO fees that cost more to renew then doctors, or lawyers, in fact, any license here in good old NY. It’s your gov’t who places all kinds of restrictions. It’s your gov’t who is behind the prices that drive everything in this country. Don’t just look at the tech that is treating your apartment and think that is the only place your money goes. It takes a lot of money to operate a business, especially a PCO business. I’m waiting to see when your gov’t will try and find ways to make money from the bed bug epidemic.

As far as not getting the results you were promised I’m sorry for that.
But there are also many reasons treatments can fail. And sometimes it’s your fault, sometimes a neighbor, or a landlord, and yes a bad PCO. I got a call today from a client and found out that the landlord had his nephew spray over everything I just treated 2 days ago? Is that my fault if my product is useless now? I’m not one to stand behind imposters in the industry, I was sick when I saw the number of yellow page ads with all the PCO companies claiming they are bed bug specialists when I looked at them yesterday.

I just spent the better part of 12 hrs treating a large 3 bedroom apartment. It was not cheap for my client, but worth it for both parties. Just remember with anything .. it’s buyer beware. There are good companies out there, you have to research .. just as you would with other things.

As for Cry-all-nite, it’s a tool .. some like it, some don’t. It’s not the end all for bed bugs … nothing is!
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Posted 3 years ago
Sun Aug 2 2009 12:17:31
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Ripoffexterminators

It is rather clear from your comments that you are experiencing some mental health issues.

At this point I would recommend a good psychotherapist.

Best Regards
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Posted 3 years ago
Sun Aug 2 2009 14:28:51
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First of all, not all of the people you're responding to are male, so perhaps using more gender neutral language might be more appropriate to the actual population of the forum.

Secondly, I'm no moderator, but I will say this. If you want to be rude and yell at people, that's perfectly fine with me. I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, and so I assumed that perhaps you were unfamiliar with the conventions of online conversation. If you don't want to act in accordance with the general etiquette of the community you claim to be so invested in educating or you're not at all concerned with being rude, well, then, I'll let that decision alone convey to readers what it conveys to me. It doesn't really need further comment.

Thirdly, since some of the PCOs here who've given me the best advice throughout my infestation are not based in the United States, I guess that means I'm not a total dupe in taking their advice then, huh, since you're clearly only concerned with ethics in the United States. So PCOs from Canada, the UK, and Italy are to be trusted then?

Fourth, as for people not agreeing with me, well, I'll tell you what I once told a frosh in my composition class.

When the issue in question is a matter of opinion, any discourse community worth its salt should welcome differing opinions.

However, other topics are a matter of fact and are therefore not open to discussion. When the student in my class who had plagiarized a paper insisted that she and I had different opinions on what constituted plagiarism, yes, I was annoyed because the definition of plagiarism is not an opinion up for discussion. It was, in that case, a clearly defined campus policy which was spelled out in painstaking detail in the university catalog.

People here are always welcome to disagree with anything that I've said that's opinion-based. However, I do in fact have very little patience for people who decide to divorce themselves so completely from reality in order to pursue a personal agenda that they attempt to unilaterally dictate an alternate, inaccurate reality that conforms to their own pet rants. Keeping that in mind will likely make your message more likely to reach a greater number of people than attempting to derail criticism with ad hominem attacks.

But, you know, I'm clearly so much more concerned with my own feelings than making sure that readers get accurate information that I'm not to be trusted, so obviously readers should just discount whatever I've said.

I'm not sure why I would have a horse in the race of defending ineffective PCOs since my landlord hired one for me back in June of 2008, and that PCO's treatment managed to rid me of my several month old infestation in one go. Clearly, I just hang around the boards and spend time writing up responses because, why exactly?