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Anyone have experience with Veganix or other non-toxic exterminators in NYC?
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seaginsky
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Wed Feb 18 2009 1:31:30
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We have a somewhat mild bedbug infestation that we've controlled with powders and non-toxic sprays in our house in Brooklyn, NY, but are about to hire a professional exterminator to make sure we get rid of every little visitor. I'd like to do it with non-toxic products. Jairo, the guy from Veganix seemed the best of the folks we had come do estimates, but I wanted to see if anyone had any experience with him, either positive or negative before we go ahead and spend the large sum of money. He uses EcoPCO Products from EcoSMART technologies, but seems to have a better sense of where the bugs are actually nesting than anyone else who came to our house.
Thanks.
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I don't personally know anything about this company or the products they're using.
If you're in a house, you also have the options of thermal treatment (which is pretty green) and vikane gas fumigation.
They may cost more but if done properly, should clear the home in one go.
Other methods are labor intensive and will likely have to be repeated even if the pro is careful and inspects and finds harborages (which is a good sign, of course).
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bedbugdude
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Posted 9 months ago
Wed Feb 18 2009 15:10:07
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Found the website
http://www.ecosmart.com/household/products.asp
" Each EcoSMART formula uses natural oils like peppermint, wintergreen, cinnamon, and rosemary to solve all types of insect problems "
* Am I missing something here? Not one of products are listed for bed bugs?
The EcoExempt D Dust is a versatile, minimum risk product that is exempt from Federal registration. All EcoEXEMPT® products are USDA NOP (National Organic Program) compliant. The performance and application costs are comparable to conventional pesticides, and have a pleasant botanical fragrance.
Excellent for use in sensitive facilities (schools, government buildings, organic facilities, etc.).
Works for: A broad spectrum of pests:
ants, centipedes,cockroaches, crickets, firebrats , fleas earwigs, millipedes, pillbugs, scorpions, sowbugs, spiders, wasps -hornets, nuisance bees , yellow jackets and other stinging insects.Active Ingredient: Hexa-Hydroxyl is based on distinct combinations of different plant essential oils that significantly enhance the activity of these oils against insects.
Hummmmm
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BugBoy911
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Posted 9 months ago
Wed Feb 18 2009 22:24:56
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There's many safe "Holistic," ways of combating these pests without using Illegal products to treat your infestation. If a product is not labled for BedBugs correct me if I"m wrong but isn't this illegal application!? I'm gona be in Brooklyn all day tomorrow for its my main area of business, yet combating this pest holistically requires a complete understanding of natural weapons that can be used. From Steam, to Dusts and good directions to the home owner a problem can be resolved rather quickly. I would be a bit warey of this guy using all these natural products that aren't labled for bedbugs in your apartment. If there not labled then there is a good reason for it.
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Posted 9 months ago
Wed Feb 18 2009 22:34:27
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The Key word is crawling insects on these labels guys. I have some knowledge about these products... I'll go pull up a thread when I spoke about them.
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Posted 9 months ago
Wed Feb 18 2009 22:42:23
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The thread KQ refers to is this one, I think:
http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/will-ecoexempt-alone-workRemember, tags are our friends :-)
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Posted 9 months ago
Wed Feb 18 2009 22:55:57
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lol Roger that ... Thanks
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BugBoy911
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Posted 9 months ago
Thu Feb 19 2009 7:18:14
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Crawling insects huh? I was told from an entomologist when I first started in this field, that if it wasn't labled specifically for an insect then it is a mis application. Oh well, I see how much he knew.... I always thought that this would be a mis application specifically in bedbug work.... Guess not!
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BugBoy911
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Posted 9 months ago
Thu Feb 19 2009 7:22:16
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Killerqueen, can you elaborate on this topic just a bit? I mean like I said I was told not to use something that wasn't labeled specifically for the insect treated so I didn't know the DEC would allow it. Second, so could you use a product that says "use on crawling insects," then on any insect period? This opens up more area's of safer pesticides yet, I don't know if you can trust rosemary oil to get rid of bedbugs, yet it is possible I feel with the use of Dusts as well... The first company I ever worked for never used Eco products in fear it wasn't labeled correctly for certain situations...
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Posted 9 months ago
Thu Feb 19 2009 9:08:28
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Label verbiage such as "and other crawling insects" does allow for use in NY as long as the site is also present. Eco has at least two products labeled for bbs. Unfortunately when the ACU product went for reduced risk status the "other" verbiage came off so you can not use that product. The "other" use defense can be slippery so look into it before
use. While many oils work you do have to confider the odor aspect, like do I enjoy sleeping on a well known analgesic heat rub used to relieve muscle and joint pain with a winter green smell.
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