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21 bed bug treatments in 2 years don't do it???

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  1. Nobugsonme

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    Posted 9 years ago
    Wed Mar 31 2010 20:51:47
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    This is perhaps Joe Fiorito's most harrowing article, since it tells the story of an 80-year-old man in Toronto public housing who's had 21 bed bug treatments in 2 years, and still has a serious bed bug problem.

    Something seems to be going seriously wrong there.

    More here.

    I started and run the site but am "not an expert."
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    Posted 9 years ago
    Thu Apr 1 2010 0:14:59
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    That sure puts things in perspective. That poor man.

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    Posted 9 years ago
    Thu Apr 1 2010 6:45:03
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    A very distressing and unfortunately not that uncommon situation.

    This is one of those cases where knowledge and scientific understanding are the key to eradication not just repeat chemical control strategies or even thermal.

    I have written to the blog author with some advice and an offer to help.

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    Posted 9 years ago
    Thu Apr 1 2010 14:00:55
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    While I agree with David that multiple, unnecessary treatments are an unfortunate, all-to-common situation but 21 treatments is a bit over-the-top. I have a strong feeling something is wrong on both sides of that equation (tenant and PCO).

    I've given talks to the Ontario pest management industry and know that there are a lot of companies that are still behind the curve and with housing authorties you never know what you're getting but even still, 21 is a bit ridiculous since it's not even better. There are good companies up in the Toronto area and it sounds like we may need to find one of them.

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    Posted 9 years ago
    Thu Apr 1 2010 15:44:19
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    Could the victim be getting re exposed on a regular basis in the course of daytime activities outside the apartment?

    Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night...
    - Psalms 91:5-7

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    Posted 9 years ago
    Thu Apr 1 2010 20:25:47
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    Jeff,

    Besides the tenant being at fault and the PCO not knowing how to do things right, it seems like there may also be a problem with the way the building as a whole is being treated. (And this can be a management-side issue.)

    If neighbors have problems, and are not being inspected and treated at the same time as Bill Huddlestone's apartment, then this could be a major factor, right? We seem to hear a lot of these stories of heavily infested buildings coming out of Toronto, and I wonder if this is one of those cases.

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    Posted 9 years ago
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    Yes not inspecting surrounding units could definitely contribute to continued reinfestation and ongoing issues.

    Obviously since we're not there it's tough to say what the problem is but I know 21 treatments is a problem. My guess is that the tenant isn't getting all the information and not following through with the information he is getting.

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    Posted 9 years ago
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    I'm revisiting this because there is a new story this week on another heavily- and long-infested public housing building in Toronto.

    More here.

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    Posted 9 years ago
    Tue Apr 13 2010 13:05:10
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    Hi Cilecto,

    That would be one of the first things I would want to look at, the profile of the infestation pattern to see links and trends.

    I am giving a presentation int he UK next week and will have a slide on common mistakes in BB treatment. This case is the kind of example people need to think about. If it does not work by the 3rd or 4th attempt then you need to investigate to find out exactly what is going on.

    If used correctly chemical control is one of the best tools available for even complex local source issues but when used in this fashion it raises more issues than it can possibly hope to solve.

    Yes its hard to work out what is going on exactly without all the facts but I think its fair to say that after so many attempts the person doing the work has clearly not got it right or if its multiple people then the protocol clearly needs looking at.

    I see an increasing number of cases like this and to be frank it worries me more than many of the other aspects of pest control services.

    David

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    Posted 6 years ago
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    Hi sorry to bring this older thread back from the dead

    It's the first time I read this story, I could not help but identify with the man. I'm not as old (in my 50's) but I am disabled. I'm not saying that I'm as bad as he his but I am pretty bad.

    Did not have 21 treatments, I had 17 but that is in 14 months not two years

    He threw out 4 beds, I threw out 3 beds. Hardly any furniture left just like him. No dresser, no night stand, no couch anymore.

    I don't live in public housing however, and I haved moved twice since this started. So re-infestation from other units I think can be discarted, I never ever go out so I don't think I get them from somewhere else. The two places I moved in where from people who did not have them.

    I do have a white t-shirt like his, full of blood spots if I sleep in it for 3 days.

    K9 positive, live samples, dead samples, cast skins, etc

    They have now a bed bug "psycho-social" specialist in Montreal, he was put in place this summer, I'll finally get to see him this week or next through a social worker, I'll report on what they say and share the info for others.

    I thought I was a special case but when I spoke to the ressource woman she told me that many people have them for more than a year in this city

    Andrea
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    Posted 6 years ago
    Mon Nov 19 2012 8:59:13
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    Hi endless_nightmare,

    If they are open to a little external input into the situation please let them know I would be willing to have a conference call or skype chat about this sort of case.

    It certainly sounds as if you have what I would term a local source infestation dynamic and in which case its more about stopping them being brought in than what you are doing to control.

    David


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