http://bedbugger.com/forum/ Bed bug support forums en Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:51:16 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-40958 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:47:33 +0000 spideyjg 40958@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <blockquote><p><cite>IveBeenBugged - 41 minutes ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-40951">&nbsp;&raquo;&nbsp;</a></cite><br /> I was told by the manufacturer of Results (DE with Perythium - I think I mispelled that part) NOT TO USE THE HEPA FILTER as the DE would just clog it and shorten the lifespan of the vacuum cleaner even more quickly. Much less exposing yourself to the dust when you have to clean it off of the filter.<br /> I agree to use a respirator as most vacuums are not air tight and it does send fine dust into the air. I also kept my windows open when I vacuumed the Results up (of course I live in florida so that's easier for me to do).</p></blockquote> <p>I'll go ahead and disagree with the Diatect folks on this. Yes a HEPA filter will more rapidly clog due to the fine DE particles. Vacuuming DE will shorten the life of any vacuum out there.</p> <p>I use this vacuum......<br /> <a href="http://www.eureka.com/index.php?option=com_productdisplay&#38;view=productdisplay&#38;task=getproducts&#38;productid=12&#38;product_model=4870HZ" rel="nofollow">http://www.eureka.com/index.php?option=com_productdisplay&#38;view=productdisplay&#38;task=getproducts&#38;productid=12&#38;product_model=4870HZ</a></p> <p>which the HEPA filter is easy to replace and cost $18.00 and the vac itself was about $140. Far cheaper than a bout of respiratory problems or burning out an expensive Kirby.</p> <p>The air exhausts out the front through the filter and a reduction in flow would be easy to notice and then change the filter.</p> <p>If you wear a P100 respirator, which is essentially a HEPA filter and can vent the whole house, fine. IMHO the best move is not getting that stuff in the air in the first place.</p> <p>Jim </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-40951 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:55:09 +0000 IveBeenBugged 40951@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>I was told by the manufacturer of Results (DE with Perythium - I think I mispelled that part) NOT TO USE THE HEPA FILTER as the DE would just clog it and shorten the lifespan of the vacuum cleaner even more quickly. Much less exposing yourself to the dust when you have to clean it off of the filter.</p> <p>I agree to use a respirator as most vacuums are not air tight and it does send fine dust into the air. I also kept my windows open when I vacuumed the Results up (of course I live in florida so that's easier for me to do). </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-40634 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:32:15 +0000 bedbugshot 40634@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <blockquote><p><cite>spideyjg - 19 hours ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-40614">&nbsp;&raquo;&nbsp;</a></cite></p> <blockquote><p><cite>bedbugshot - 1 hour ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-40610">&nbsp;&raquo;&nbsp;</a></cite></p> <blockquote><p><cite>spideyjg - 1 week ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-39947">&nbsp;&raquo;&nbsp;</a></cite><br /> If you are going to vacuum, use one with a HEPA filter to reduce emissions, wear a P, N or R100 respirator, and ventilate the place to clear the air.<br /> Best to do what WOB says though but.....<br /> Jim</p></blockquote> <p>thank u for that. i was wondering about that. can a kirby vacume do the job?</p></blockquote> <p>Don't Kirby's cost a grip of money? Any vacuum will suck it up and shorten its lifespan doing so. I'd get a cheap HEPA equipped one to preserve your expensive Kirby.<br /> If equipped with a HEPA filter, check your model information, it should be able to do it safer for you.<br /> Jim</p></blockquote> <p>okay. yes kirby did cost me a grip so thank you for that one! </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-40614 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:29:46 +0000 spideyjg 40614@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <blockquote><p><cite>bedbugshot - 1 hour ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-40610">&nbsp;&raquo;&nbsp;</a></cite></p> <blockquote><p><cite>spideyjg - 1 week ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-39947">&nbsp;&raquo;&nbsp;</a></cite><br /> If you are going to vacuum, use one with a HEPA filter to reduce emissions, wear a P, N or R100 respirator, and ventilate the place to clear the air.<br /> Best to do what WOB says though but.....<br /> Jim</p></blockquote> <p>thank u for that. i was wondering about that. can a kirby vacume do the job?</p></blockquote> <p>Don't Kirby's cost a grip of money? Any vacuum will suck it up and shorten its lifespan doing so. I'd get a cheap HEPA equipped one to preserve your expensive Kirby.</p> <p>If equipped with a HEPA filter, check your model information, it should be able to do it safer for you.</p> <p>Jim </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-40610 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:20:55 +0000 bedbugshot 40610@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <blockquote><p><cite>spideyjg - 1 week ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-39947">&nbsp;&raquo;&nbsp;</a></cite><br /> If you are going to vacuum, use one with a HEPA filter to reduce emissions, wear a P, N or R100 respirator, and ventilate the place to clear the air.<br /> Best to do what WOB says though but.....<br /> Jim</p></blockquote> <p>thank u for that. i was wondering about that. can a kirby vacume do the job? </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-40605 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:52:45 +0000 bb-baltimore 40605@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>i use a 5 gallon shop-vac i bought at wal-mart for like $30-40. i seems to suck it up pretty good when you put too much down. I vacuumed up alot of it and it still works fine. Also with the de will be inside the vacuum &#38; hopefully kill any bb's you suck into the vacuum. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-40604 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:27:38 +0000 bait 40604@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Keep the wood bed, put the DE in the cracks and crevices, esp. where screws meet the wood. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-40382 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:42:04 +0000 bedbugloather 40382@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Hi all,<br /> So i've bought a R graded respirator(40 bucks) and a 120 dollar Hoover vacuum that has hepa to vacuum up DE in my room last weekend, took me 2 hours. I was trying to decide on which vacuum to buy at Sears, was gonna buy a cheap one by Dirt Devil for about 50 bucks. The sales guy told me to buy a warranty with it in case the vacuum breaks, which got me thinking that probably it's not a good decision to buy that cheap, since I would have to buy another one if it breaks down on the first try, given that my room is loaded with DE on the carpet; and the warranty won't do good because i can't bring the bb infested vacuum back. The Hoover vacuum is quite strong and I understood why the airborne DE is an issue due to the rotating brush. So I used the attachment instead for sucking up DE, which takes more time but much much less airborn DE. </p> <p>So i took a shower that nite, feeling very good that I was prepared for the PCO to come. I slept in the living room with sleeping bag and then the next morning found 9 bites on me; probably somehow a simple shower was enough, maybe bb was hiding in my hair and bit me while I was resting. So I took everything I slept with, including sleeping bag, to the commercial dryer for one and half hours; came home and took a long shower, poured lots of alcohol on my hair and then washed it out. No bb bites afterwards i think, yay!! (also, i found out that vinegar would also work on hair to kill bb, tried it twice already)</p> <p>Then on wednesday, the PCO finally came and brought two cute bedbug dogs(beagle breed)to sniff inside my house. Just as I expected, they didn't find any bb or signs of it. I think maybe my bb case is very light and still at the beginning stage. The PCO also did visual inspection on my wooden bed frame and went up to the crawling space to check for rat or pigeon activity, which was also negative. The PCO seemed confident when she told me that i don't have bb, but i told her that i got almost 40 bites in the last two weeks. She suggested me that maybe it's something else(maybe mites) and wrote me a detail suggestion to wash all linens in my room and window curtain and go see a dermatologist to double check on the bites. About 15 sticky traps were placed in my house(most of them were in my room)and the PCO will come back after christmas to check. </p> <p>My mom caught some bb(live and dead ones) in her place and i'm gonna bring the sample to the PCO office for them to confirm whether it's bb or not. </p> <p>I'm still sleeping in my living room and gonna move back to my room in the next two days. Meanwhile I've been trying to figure out what to do with my wooden bed since I don't want to buy a new one. Placing a metal bed frame under it probably would not work since it's heavy(made of layers of wood, not partical boards. I've decided to use a modified version of what people used to combat bb in their rooms. I bought a king size vinyl cover that was designed for mattress and will try to use it for encasing my twin size wooden bed, will use strong tape on the zipper to ensure no bb can go through. I will also use double sided tape all around the vinyl encasement to trap bb if they try to come up onto the bed. Maybe in the end, i might need to buy a new bed with metal bed frame if this doesn't work, but i'm gonna try to work with my wooden bed first. I hope my method works. <strong> Anyone have better suggestions or other ways.</strong> </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-39988 Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:03:19 +0000 bedbugloather 39988@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>thanks!! i'll buy a respirator and try the damp cloth method, and follow up later with a vacuum 'cause there's so much DE in my room. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-39947 Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:24:43 +0000 spideyjg 39947@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>If you are going to vacuum, use one with a HEPA filter to reduce emissions, wear a P, N or R100 respirator, and ventilate the place to clear the air.</p> <p>Best to do what WOB says though but.....</p> <p>Jim </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-39946 Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:22:01 +0000 Nobugsonme 39946@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>I cannot advise on the safety issues of this. <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/exterminator-came-finding-white-powder-around-the-bed-what-is-it">In this thread,</a> Winston suggests cleaning up DE with a damp cloth due to the dangers of making dusts airborne.</p> <p>If you are going to vacuum, I think cheap is the answer, since it might die.<br /> And at the very least, wear a respirator. Not a dust mask, a real respirator. You are not supposed to get DE and other dusts into your lungs. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-39937 Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:20:20 +0000 myLifeinZiplocs 39937@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Yeah you know I bought a pretty cheap vacuum from Target just for that reason. I knew the DE would probably screw up any vacuum that I bought so I just bought a cheap one. </p> <p>So far its holding out fine though. I have used it to vacuum the DE a couple of times. </p> <p>I am going to do the Big Vacuuming Project tomorrow again. (I have to move my bed for this and I just haven't had the time since I have a big paper due tomorrow.) </p> <p>I'll check the 8 or so glue traps under my bed while I'm at it. And the sticky tape. lol. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/which-vacuum-to-buy-for-vacuumming-lots-of-de#post-39934 Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:41:33 +0000 bedbugloather 39934@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>So I had sprinkled lots of DE in my room, and the PCO guy(pestco) told me on the phone to vacuum up the DE before he comes so the bedbug dog can detect bb easier. I actually have lots of DE (all around the corners, my wooden bed, and lots of DE on the carpet section in front of door of my room, i did this more than a week ago 'cause i was so concern and also wanted to keep the bb only inside my room. of course now i know better that they will just avoid the heavily dusted DE section and reroute to come out if they wanted to. </p> <p>Does anyone know which vacuum to buy for vacumming lots of DE? i think i read somewhere that lots of DE can make the vacuum malfunction.<br /> maybe i'll just buy a reasonable priced one from costco, hopefully it won't die until most of the DE are vacummed up. </p>