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<title>Got Bed Bugs? Bedbugger Forums Topic: the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them</title>
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<title>Just itching to get rid of them on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Just itching to get rid of them</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;There is no mystical reason why the bbs are here.  They are simply organisms who are enjoying their niche right now, and in a sense expanding their base.  When human &#34;organisms&#34; make a collective effort to reshrink the bb niche, bbs will no longer be ascending.
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<title>blazing on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>blazing</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I don't know about bed bug insurance.  Sure, the costs of cleaning them up are high.. but because you can get them so easily, and repeatedly, it's like bailing out a sinking ship.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It's funny though... &#34;they&#34; want you to buy these houses, but not enough to insure you for them.. that's right, we can invest akll our money into the tax base, keep investing more buy consumerism, and then shoulder all the rest of the cost to boot.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;as for the tale of bedbugs having been here for years before migrating from homeless shelters.. i thought they were far more resilient and that this epidemic is about 16 years too late, at least.&#60;br /&#62;
This just shows you how things happen for a reason.. the universe is at work... We were saved by grace for alot longer than perhaps we should have been.  There is a reason they are here.. too bad that the poor have to suffer first before all hell breaks loose.
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<title>blazing on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>blazing</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;Just itching to get rid of them - 3 days ago &#60;a href=&#34;http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/the-only-way-this-will-be-resolved-is-if-everyone-gets-them#post-51958&#34;&#62;&#38;nbsp;&#38;raquo;&#38;nbsp;&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
That is like saying things can never change.  Things can change.  Systems change, individuals change.  Governments change.  And it starts with the individual.  We must never give up hope.
&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;i am not giving up hope. not IN THE LEAST.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;What i am saying is that this change you speak of comes on the hands of revolution, destruction and much chaos.  If we ever join hands and make nice and focus our energies on taking care of things on the homefront, it is only going to be after much calamity.  It is a fact that human beings usually need a good jolt before they wake up.. not always.. but many times.. and when we are talking about humans coming together as a team, it is all the more true.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Disasters serve to purge ourselves of many things, not just a problem or two.. that's why they are so much more cathartic.
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<title>DragonFlight on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/the-only-way-this-will-be-resolved-is-if-everyone-gets-them#post-51968</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>DragonFlight</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;There is another common problem, people like to shoot off that they are clean &#60;em&#62;what is there definition of clean&#60;/em&#62; ? I've seen some bed bug problems and the person mentioned they are clean and I've taken a look and said to myself &#34;&#60;em&#62;if you call that clean, then your on medication&#60;/em&#62;&#34;. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In years past bed bugs were typically found in &#60;em&#62;homeless shelters and hotels&#60;/em&#62; and that is where they stayed for years until the problem surfaced in the early part of this decade from my knowledge.  As world travel increased and many people were coming from bed bug hell countries to the western world.  Some of the stories I've read on this forum over the past few months shocked me and one would think you didn't realize you could get them from that ? &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;For example when one has a brother or sister who came from a homeless shelter and I understand it's family but you let them into your house, situations like this the &#60;strong&#62;warning signs are clear&#60;/strong&#62;then someone living in a apartment and they travel though pipes or electrical wiring. When you are staying at hotels that could have a history of this and not doing research before hand again the warning signs are in &#60;strong&#62;neon flashing at you&#60;/strong&#62; especially if you know bed bugs are not a myth, I will excuse those who didn't know they exist.  If you are inviting every one and there brother over to your house and you don't know where they came from or where they last slept, again same thing and this goes for cockroaches as well despite that we know we can eliminate them easier a major infestation of them is not pretty, I know I've been though it due to neighbours who lived with them like they were pets. If someone asks you if you have bed bugs and you don't, they may be relived but then you have to turn the question on where your going to stay the night, and ask them &#34;&#60;em&#62;do you have bed bugs ?&#60;/em&#62;&#34; And see what there response is because I can honestly tell you if I were to run into that situation, I'd be sure for safety which has been mentioned on this forum that you have some clothes zip-locked up and I'd change into those clothes &#60;em&#62;literally outside&#60;/em&#62; including my underpants then put those clothes in another bag and make sure it was sealed where not even 0.001% of air could get in. I wouldn't bring them into my car or house then when that is all said and done I came home and time lapsed that I was bed bug free, I would notify those I stayed at and give them a &#60;em&#62;piece of mind&#60;/em&#62;.
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<title>buggyinsocal on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;It's not a matter of the companies offering policies to some people in California and not others, it's  matter of several major companies simply refusing to write any new homeowner policies at all.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/11/pf/insurance/allstate/index.htm?section=money_pf_insurance&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/11/pf/insurance/allstate/index.htm?section=money_pf_insurance&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;And really, as far as wildfires go?  I live three blocks up from the ocean in a highly urbanized part of the city.  I'm miles and miles and miles away from any lands that could go up in flames.  If you'd ever flown into the LA basin, you'd see what I mean.  Unless there were wildfires big enough to encircle the entirety of the Los Angeles metro area, wildfires aren't coming for me.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Doesn't mean I don't acknowledge that there are places where that's not true.  Ask me about my friends in Berkeley and Oakland who are perfectly clear that once fires get started in those hills, they can easily sweep down into the flatlands.  I have friends who live in all three: Berkeley, Oakland flats, Oakland hills.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Doesn't mean that last year during the epic Orange county wildfires I didn't have plenty of students who couldn't come to school because they had respiratory conditions that meant that with air quality that bad, they were ill.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Doesn't mean that years before that when the fires came close to encircling San Diego we didn't get plenty of ash and smoke over 100 miles away.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But the way that LA and its environs is structured so that it's harder to encircle our whole city with wildfires and have them burn through the flatlands.  I live on one of those flatlands very, very far away from any wild lands.  It would take a wild fire so large that it would obliterate the whole of Los Angeles for me to be taken out by a wildfire.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Now, a fire after an earthquake?  That could totally wipe me out.  But wildfire?  Very unlikely.  About as likely as being struck by lightning, and given where I grew up?  I know how unlikely that is.
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<title>DragonFlight on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;I live in California, which I affectionately refer to as the Apocalypse State. Contrary to popular belief, we do have seasons here: fire, floor, fog, mudslide, and earthquake seasons.&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You do know that California is &#60;em&#62;wildlife&#60;/em&#62; country just the same as Florida is &#60;em&#62;swamp land&#60;/em&#62;, although I do agree with you to a extent, maybe moving to a location in California that has less risk and that an insurance company will cover you ?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;(The Canadian government seems to have more sense when it comes to actually worrying about the welfare of its people, so perhaps insurance companies up there behave differently. I'm still trying to figure out how insurance companies can stop offering new policies to an entire state, esp. one as big as California and get away with it.)&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You think they have more sense, they don't our political system here is decaying we have politicians running which ever level and they don't know what they are doing, especially in the federal government where we have two parties and the politicians running each party is just as bad as the other one. In fact at this point in Canadian politics the Conservatives and Liberals are holding hands while the rest of the country goes down, including health care which the government is finding more and more corners to cut from, while more and more people come over to this country and drain it the more the government will cut, if you come over to a country that has a somewhat social safety net and you came from a country that was a mess you use and abuse it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don't agree that everyone should get bed bugs to solve it, the problem is politicians need to wake up to the fact, if they can wake up to the fact that a highway bridge is falling apart faster then a rotting apple then the same needs to be done with bed bugs. Really in the end when they do wake up, all they are going to do is produce a chemical that wipes them out quick only they will research the health risks it will be better then DDT and cheap to produce. Eliminate them with one pass then down the road maybe 40 years down the road (&#60;em&#62;if we are all still alive&#60;/em&#62;) they will mention there was a health risk to that, but honestly for most of us we will either be dead or old and for many if they reach old age and didn't die from a chemical that killed bed bugs they will mention and be glad they did wake up.
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<title>buggyinsocal on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I absolutely agree that renter's and homeowner's insurance should cover bed bugs.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sadly, even with government pressure I doubt it will ever happen.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Here's why.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I live in California, which I affectionately refer to as the Apocalypse State.  Contrary to popular belief, we do have seasons here: fire, floor, fog, mudslide, and earthquake seasons.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;After a couple of bad years with a lot of natural disasters, several major insurance companies, including Allstate, chose to simply stop writing new policies for homeowner's insurance in California.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They just decided that their costs were too high and stopped.  Period.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So here's what I imagine happening if the government mandated insurance companies to cover the costs of bed bug infestations.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Either companies would offer separate bed bug policies, just like earthquake and flood insurance is separate from homeowner insurance (I suspect renters can't get either, given how prohibitively expensive the former can be for homeowners.  I've never looked into it.), or they wouldn't write policies for people in areas with lots of infestations.  So I doubt you'd be able to get a policy in Boston, New York, Las Vegas, or if Toronto were in the US (Which is isn't) Toronto.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(The Canadian government seems to have more sense when it comes to actually worrying about the welfare of its people, so perhaps insurance companies up there behave differently.  I'm still trying to figure out how insurance companies can stop offering new policies to an entire state, esp. one as big as California and get away with it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;And before anyone says so, look, I've lived through plenty of natural disasters in plenty of states.  I would never buy property on a flood plain or a liquefaction zone.  I can't afford to own property here, since I don't have family who were grandfathered in to 1978 property tax rates, and I'm a state worker, underpaid because of Prop 13, but I still checked the USGS maps to make sure that I'm not in a liquefaction zone before I rented a place.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Contrary to what you see on the news, plenty of people live in houses in California that are highly unlikely ever to be threatened by wildfires or mudslides.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As someone who grew up in hurricane country, for example, you couldn't pay me enough to buy a home on a barrier island in the Gulf of Mexico.  I see how frequently they get demolished, and if insurance companies don't want to insure those houses alone because they're too high risk, fine.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But you can't choose not to write any new policies in an entire state when wildfires and mudslides only threaten some homes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Or well, I guess you can, but it seems to me like what you're paying insurance companies for is that in the  event of an unlikely event, they save your ass.  It doesn't seem right, to me, that they only get to take money from people who won't ever need them to pay out.)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Anyway, my point is that much as I think bed bugs should be covered, based on what I've seen the US insurance industry in my state do?  I doubt they'll ever cover bed bugs at all, and even if they do, they'll set things up so that they don't have to actually pay for coverage of the people who need it most.
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<title>Just itching to get rid of them on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Just itching to get rid of them</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;That is like saying things can never change.  Things can change.  Systems change, individuals change.  Governments change.  And it starts with the individual.  We must never give up hope.
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<title>blazing on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>blazing</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I am soon leaving this site.  i have got what i need out of it.  i am only here to respond to a few points.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;#1.  Don't feel guilty about spreading bbs.  you aren't spreading them.. you are not responsible for the difficulty these things represent.  None of you are being careless, so please don't shoulder the blame.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;#2.  the thing is that govt's ARE NOT helping citizens of hurricanes, etc.  Not really anymore.  The storms have gotten worse in the last 5 years and the USA is going bankrupt.  We DO need the gov't's help but the gov't no longer has the resources to call in the red cross to deal with bb infestations apartment by apartment.  Jesus.. never gonna see that story.. if the gov't system we allow to prosper ever cared that much, we wouldn't have this epidemic to begin with.
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<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Just itching to get rid of them</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;lil_bit_obsessed, you are absolutely right. However, it all goes back to government involvement.  Insurance companies won't cover bbs unless laws are passed that they have to cover bbs, unless the government, itself, declares infested buildings disaster areas and helps citizens clean up bbs just as they help people rebuild their lives after hurricanes and other natural disasters.  The sad truth is that many people can't afford all the accoutrements necessary to eradicate bbs.  If a whole  apartment building is infested, and needs special treatment why shouldn't the government with the Red Cross assume responsibilty to give the tenants shelter so the job can be appropriately and efficiently done?  If we rely on each individual to fight bbs on his or her own, there can be no victory.  It is like expecting citizens to fight crime on their own , or put out their own fires, or save themselves from floods. The government must protect its citizens from harm and degradation.
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<title>lil_bit_obsessed on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;Just itching to get rid of them - 16 hours ago &#60;a href=&#34;http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/the-only-way-this-will-be-resolved-is-if-everyone-gets-them#post-51532&#34;&#62;&#38;nbsp;&#38;raquo;&#38;nbsp;&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
landlords should be educated... subsidies to eradicate&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;subsidies to eradicate - that's a brilliant idea.  i agree that government involvement is key.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;another thing that frustrates me is the lack of coverage in terms of insurance.  i had renter's insurance at the time of my infestation, and despite well over a thousand dollars dealing with the infestation (including the cost of destroyed furniture, laundry, ziplocs, DE etc) i couldn't get a penny out of them.  horrible.  bbs should be covered by renter's and homeowner's insurance by default.
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<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I hate to sing only one note, but no matter how earnest each of us is, this war can not be won unless the government is involved.  When I told my cousin in Florida about bbs, he never heard of them. Do you know what that's like to talk about this incredible blight in your life, and people have no idea what you are talking about?  Just recently my cousin was at some kind of chamber of commerce meeting  and a PCO made a presentation about bbs and noted how her business is going way up.  So my cousin finally knows about bbs.  But that was by chance that he was at that meeting.  The point is bbs are harmful and not just a nuisance! They are a plague and a pestilence!  There should be a public service campiagn educating people about prevention of bbs. People should be apprised of their rights as tenants, and landlords should be educated about their responsibilty and they should be given incentives (carrots and sticks) to get rid of bbs, subsidies to eradicate, fines if they don't.  Bbs are a public health issue. They may not appear as serious as AIDS or other STDS or even swine flu, but infestations destroy people's physical and mental health. There should be announcements and ads on TV telling people how to prevent infestations, and schools should teach the kids about bbs.  Just as today after HIV AIDS everyone finally knows what &#34;safe sex&#34; means, the prevention and eradication of bbs should become part of the national dialog.  For that to happen, the government must be involved.
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<title>lil_bit_obsessed on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>lil_bit_obsessed</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;i can't imagine spreading them to a friend or family member (or even a stranger, for that matter).  i would feel so awful, especially if it was someone who was financially harmed by the exposure (as many of us have been).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;i have talked to friends about bbs to try and educate them, and have even taught friends how to inspect for them in hotel rooms and hostels.  some of my friends have taken this information very seriously, and some have not.  i have one friend who, after hearing my story, protected both himself and me from another exposure.  he was staying in my spareroom briefly and went to visit a friend in the same city who he realized clearly had a bb problem.  when he realized he might have been exposed to the bugs while there, he came back to my house and told me what he saw WHILE STANDING OUTSIDE THE DOOR OF MY HOUSE.  he told me before he entered the house so that i could advise him what to do (change clothes, dryer them, shower, clean the items he had with him, etc).  the very act of telling him about my bb experience thus protected both him and me from a possible infestation, because when he was then exposed to bbs he didn't take it lightly.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;on the other hand, i have another friend who has them at her work, and despite the information i have tried to share with her she is in absolute denial that she could bring them home.  she does not take any precautions to avoid transporting a bug, and does not believe she will get them.  nothing that i have said will convince her otherwise - she just thinks i'm being dramatic.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;so there you have it.  i think some people just protect themselves from the anxiety of worrying about bbs by refusing to acknowledge that they are an issue, or by downplaying their own exposure.  it's sad, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't tell people.  sometimes it really does make a difference to educate someone.
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<title>Nobugsonme on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;If you don't take efforts not to spread bed bugs, IMO you are shooting yourself in the foot, because you lessen your chances of getting rid of them.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Oh, and bed bug dating site?  I&#60;a href=&#34;http://bedbugger.com/forum/tags/bed-bug-dating&#34;&#62; think this is it.&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>anamorphosis on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I am starting to feel like everyone DOES have them. We have them at our place, but not in the bed at this point. I still have them at my work, though nobody really listens to me about that. My boss got like a million welty bites on her back and decided to just bug bomb her office.  - I know. I have given them all the info.&#60;br /&#62;
I had a friend's place just crawling with them. Massive infestation. feces on the walls, pillows - just horrid. But no one reacts to the bites so no one knows or cares overmuch. I have another friend who has a next door neighbor who's place was sprayed, but they share a wall and we all know what that means. All of the SRO hotels have them here. I am sure my coworkers brought them home with them from the office as I did.&#60;br /&#62;
A major dual diagnosis treatment center in SF has been battling them for some time now. I heard that they were instructing the staff that if the staff just avoid sitting on plushy couches and chairs and stick to folding chairs they will not get them. I think we, here, know this to not be true.&#60;br /&#62;
I, myself, can't tell whether it is a blessing or a curse that I am as sensitive to them as I am. No one else who is not seems to care even if they are aware of them. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It makes me wonder if this is a part of why treatment doesn't always work. I mean, If so many people have them who don't know or don't care, then how can you be sure you won't just re-introduce them the next day, the next week, or the next month?
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<title>Emmm on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/the-only-way-this-will-be-resolved-is-if-everyone-gets-them#post-51493</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I can appreciate the sentiment that this has to happen to more people for things to change... but I wouldn't wish this experience on anyone. So i kind of find it ridiculous that it's okay to not worry about spreading it, just so society changes. I take precautions when I leave for a reason. If I ever spread this to a friend, I'd feel so horrifically guilty.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I know there are plenty of well off people who get bed bugs. What needs to happen is THEY speak openly about it. And responsible landlords need to bring their battle to public airways (they don't have to disclose their place, I mean. Just share their story too). But all this &#34;society has to change. Bed bugs are showing what arseholes we are&#34; isn't helping anything. This is still a fairly traumatic experience, and there's no sense in bringing more guilt and shame around.
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<title>BBcoukHome on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/the-only-way-this-will-be-resolved-is-if-everyone-gets-them#post-51491</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>BBcoukHome</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;One of the constant things that i hear from people is that they knew nothing about bed bugs.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The amazement to me is that I have now spent hours on TV talking about it, over 180 newspaper articles on the subject, millions and I do mean millions of internet hits over the years on a multitude of sites, I have spent a small fortune advertising the facts of bed bugs I have even written and publushed a consumers guide on them.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This is just one of those issues that we just don't want to think about until it appears in your own home.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The shame of it all is that communication is the key, telling friends and family about how to avoid the problem in the first place would help them all.  Putting information sheets up at work would help.  Encouraging all your employers to communicate the need to check to all staff who stay away from home on business (that one thing alone could save millions of lost work days each years).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There are so many little things we can all do to help spread the word and not the bed bugs.  We just all need to do a  little each day and  sooner or later we will get the message to everyone.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;David Cain&#60;br /&#62;
Bed Bugs Limited
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<title>blazing on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>blazing</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;still thinking about this topic.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;ok, so a few days ago, the video featured here was about wisconsin's capitol motel where ex-cons are staying to transition into society.   Seems like canada and america are still the only countries where the newspeople have a half snicker when they intro these stories, as if there is a light side to bed bugs.   (btw, it's not the dep't of corrections that is to blame... they are just operating in the same corrput system we all are.. it's the system that needs to fall).THAT'S why we won't solve this problem until this thing explodes wide open.  People generally need to learn the hard way, which is just fine by me because by the time it comes to that, society will have changed irrevocably from then on, even if the bb's are eradicated from then on.  As I said, necessity is the mother of invention.  Only when it's absolutely necessary, and TEAMS of people are painstakingly steaming the house of representatives as &#34;just itching&#34; so astutely pointed out, will society wake up and smell the coffee.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;bedbugs.. global warming... the upcoming depression and riots... bankruptcy and unemployment.. the disappearance of the bees... the rise of china and fall of the states... take ur pick just which one of these issues will take hold first for the other shoe to drop and everything to go topsy turvy forever,
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<title>Just itching to get rid of them on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/the-only-way-this-will-be-resolved-is-if-everyone-gets-them#post-50612</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Everybody will get bbs if the problem is not resolved soon.  The aristocracy could ultimately never fully protect themselves from the plague.  And as I said in another thread, in Exodus, Pharaoh only finally moved his patootie and freed the Hebrew slaves when he suffered the last plague and lost his first born son!  That will be some day when the best PCOs in the land are called to spray, and steam the plush offices in the Senate and the House of Representatives! Don't think that can't happen.  It doesn't pay to mistreat the poor because when people are allowed to live in squalor, plagues and epidemics spread to all, even the most powerful in the land.
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<title>bunnybedbug on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/the-only-way-this-will-be-resolved-is-if-everyone-gets-them#post-50601</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Took me a few minutes to find it; here is an excerpt from a post by itchyscratchy from summer of 2008:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;I was a the laundromat washing my laundry and then putting my items in Ziploc bags, and this guy was eyeing me. You know how it is, sorta smiling and looking at me. Finally, he empties his dryer and comes over to my table to fold. I have now started to bag my underwear in individual sandwich baggies (because I find it easier to keep &#34;sterilized&#34; that way). He smiles and says:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;Feeling a little obsessive-compulsive? Or have you just watched &#34;The Aviator&#34; too many times?&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Which is pretty cute, because I've seen The Aviator and it's about Howard Hughes' compulsions.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But instead of saying something witty, I say &#34;Actually, no, I have bed bugs.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;And the guy looks horrified, quickly finishs up with his clothes and takes off.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Yep, if I suffered from a chronic anxiety disorder, I'd probably be having a beer with a hottie right now. Take note, girls : having a mental disorder is socially acceptable, but having bed bugs is not.&#34; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Then there was a reply from someone else (spidey?) about how the threat of BB could be a good deterrent for creeps...
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<title>Grindstone99 on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/the-only-way-this-will-be-resolved-is-if-everyone-gets-them#post-50598</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Did a quick google search and nothing.  Someone should start that up for sure!  Although if they're passing it back and forth between homes there's little hope for the couple to ever get rid of them.  How about &#34;Don't judge me I've HAD bedbugs dating site&#34;
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<title>bunnybedbug on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/the-only-way-this-will-be-resolved-is-if-everyone-gets-them#post-50597</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I don't know, there might be a BB dating site.  (Don't you think there oughta be?)  You'll tell me if you find one, right?&#60;/p&#62;
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<title>Grindstone99 on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/the-only-way-this-will-be-resolved-is-if-everyone-gets-them#post-50596</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Grindstone99</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;There's a bed bug dating site?  Haha that's so funny, I was just thinking yesterday thank God I'm not single... how would I date?  LOL
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<title>bunnybedbug on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/the-only-way-this-will-be-resolved-is-if-everyone-gets-them#post-50591</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bunnybedbug</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Now there's a creative idea.  Maybe we would all sleep better at night if we ran around happily sharing our BB until the point where everybody has them.  Then all our friends &#38;#38; loved ones could come and visit and we wouldn't need a BB dating site.  Instead of worrying about killing them off (seemingly futile, sometimes) we could focus our attentions on getting rid of this damned itching...   :-)
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<title>blazing on "the only way this will be resolved is if EVERYONE gets them"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>blazing</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I dunno..&#60;br /&#62;
I bought a VCR and returned it today.. I do that alot.. and of course a bug *could* have gotten in.  Then again i go out alot too... and I guess spread microscopic organisms all over since they are so sticky.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I feel bad but what can I do.  My folks also don't believe we have them so people will keep coming over.. and who am I to stop them.. then again it's gotten out of hand.. all my efforts have not stopped bedbugs and now I am happier to know we have them so i can stop all this insane controlling of a sterile environment that is an impossible standard of perfection to uphold
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