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bed-bugscouk on "So, how common is recurrence, really?"

bed-bugscouk — Sun, 19 May 2013 13:12:55 +0000

Hi, No that is not what I said at all, in fact in some respects the opposite. If a pest controller fails to eradicate bedbugs that is a treatment failure not a reoccurrence. The issue I addressed was people bring bedbugs into a property again once the current population of bugs had been eradicated. Treatment success rate and treatment prep is a different issue. I have been in the no prep camp since 2005 simple because I could see "professionals" blaming their inability to get control on people not following prep. I don't see it as a no prep service as some would market, it is about providing a professional service from the start. You can also see that no amount of prep is going to stop you bringing bedbugs home from the office or getting them from a neighbour. Your pest controller needs to make sure try work till the job at hand is complete and you need to work with them to understand how the bedbugs got into your home in the first place. I deal with too many nightmares cases where others have messed jobs up and blamed the lack of prep for their own lack of understanding of bedbug dynamics to declare its all about the prep. I believe Paul encounters this in a lot of legal cases as well. David

bugsinsf on "So, how common is recurrence, really?"

bugsinsf — Sun, 19 May 2013 12:53:52 +0000

Thanks, David. I take it from what you are saying that it is rare to have reoccurrence simply because not all bugs were killed by a series of treatments -- sounds like usually they are, but we could get them again in the same place they came from the first time around. My motivation for asking this question was based on fears of incomplete preparations. I am following my PCO instructions but they don't sound all that safe to me (some things are not bagged, and what is bagged has been wiped but could in principle contain bugs). But from what you tell me, preparations that follow the typical PCO instructions are usually successful in killing all bugs, then? Thanks.

cilecto on "Bedbugs with alot of pets please help"

cilecto — Sun, 19 May 2013 12:42:12 +0000

<strike>First up, if you're seeing a lot of bugs, please post a picture here, so that we can positively determine if what you believe are bed bugs truly are. Rubbing alcohol is of limited value against bed bugs and a bad investment of your limited cash. Our <a href="http://bedbugger.com/faqs/">FAQ</a>are a good introduction to bed bugs and what you need to to do beat them, <a href="http://bedbugger.com/faqs/travel/">how to protect people who visit you and the places you visit</a>. It also has a great guide to <a href="http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/30/faqde/">correct use of diatomacous earth</a>. If it's bed bugs: If you live in an apartment building and you've failed to bring the situation under control, then you are being irresponsible to your neighbors continuing to try and do this yourself. If your building has a "no-pets" policy and you are in violation, then you will have do deal with that or negotiate.</strike> <blockquote> please I need help I would also very much like no criticizing about our rats, the T's, the landlord not knowing about the pets (or bedbugs) the small apartment .... I'm sorry I just would really appreciate help not someone telling me things I already know like that the landlord should know </blockquote> I was hoping that I could help, but you've set some "conditions", so, never mind.

ashleyb81992 on "Bedbugs with alot of pets please help"

ashleyb81992 — Sun, 19 May 2013 12:13:39 +0000

these little things are driving me mad as one who has them could understand..... anyways we have a bunch of rats as pets that we love dearly and want nothing to happen to them... however we live in an apartment and we're not even quite sure if were allowed pets let alone 10+ rats. We also have 2 tarantulas, dubia roaches (to feed T's) a mouse and a hamster. My question is what should we do about the bed bugs? Wouldn't it be the landlords job to pay an exterminator? but then again he'll find out about our rats. We have nowhere to bring the rats temporarily to act like we don't have them so what should we do? We can't do anything either because we don't want to harm the rats.. We sprayed DE used rubbing alcohol but I'm thinking we used too much DE because the floor was white after (thinking more was better)... Then we tried vacuuming it all up anyways because it was terrible to breath and the rats can get respiratory very easily let alone what was happening to us... anyways I need help please the apartment is small but it seems they've been in our room lately... Before they were in the living room with his father but hes been spraying pine sol (says it smells better than rubbing alcohol) and said he hasn't seen them for a while... Meanwhile we've been seeing them a lot... Within the last like day or two we've seen three, one walking across the bed, one on my shirt, then just today I woke up (unrelated to the bugs) and saw a fat one (just ate I'm assuming) walking across my pillow.. I've had enough idk what to do I'm going to go mad.. I'm supposed to visit family soon but they're afraid of getting the bugs too (with good reason)... I haven't seen my family in a while I don't want them to act like I'm the plague..We're living paycheck to paycheck as it is and we also bought mattress cover (somewhat cheap ones) and they already have holes in them from not even doing anything just from siting on the beds (get what you pay for I guess)... Nothing is working and we cant afford to keep spending money on rubbing alcohol... we still have a lot of DE left but are unsure on whether or not we should use it (his father refuses to use it because it will make a mess)... please I need help I would also very much like no criticizing about our rats, the T's, the landlord not knowing about the pets (or bedbugs) the small apartment .... I'm sorry I just would really appreciate help not someone telling me things I already know like that the landlord should know... I"m sorry I'm just so lost as to what to do please help and thanks in advanced

bed-bugscouk on "My field trial of Beauveria bassiana fungus use"

bed-bugscouk — Sun, 19 May 2013 11:48:54 +0000

Hi 3biteNightmare, Its extremely unlikley that you have ghost bugs. Often when there is a lack of confirming signs its because the issue is not bedbugs, the three bites in a row info is so out of date but like many internet legends it lives on. Have you checked the area for carpet beetle activity? It may be worth starting a new thread as the BB thread is very much off the boil for not working and not many will wade through all the posts to get to your new info. David

bed-bugscouk on "What's biting me? Fleas/bird mites/bedbugs? [ID needed]"

bed-bugscouk — Sun, 19 May 2013 11:32:39 +0000

Hi, Sorry that's a well fed and quite healthy looking nymph. If you need a recommendation for a good pest controller in Scotland let me know, he is not 100% bedbug focused but he is one of the few in the UK that stops to listen and learn. David Cain Bed Bugs Limited

scaredjenny on "Finally can upload pictures."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 11:06:00 +0000

Ok thanks for helping me. :-)))

3biteNightmare on "My field trial of Beauveria bassiana fungus use"

3biteNightmare — Sun, 19 May 2013 10:57:42 +0000

Hey everyone, wanted to post an update. I stopped using Bb as it seemed to be ineffective in my case. I switched to Bedlam for my mattress and after 2 applications (4weeks), my bed is now bite- free. This week the building's PCO came to my apt with Delta Dust and treated the apt including my couches. He saw my cans of Bedlam and commented "That's good stuff!". So we shall see. I still have my Bb, but I'm not really using it as of now. Seems the traditional multiple method + some pro help is inescapable if you're really serious. I realize some people get rid of bed bugs by themselves and some PCOs are jokers, but I still don't think there is a magic bullet. To answer Dave's question, weren't you using Tempo? I've read that most dusts kill residualy for many months. Delta Dust is advertised as being effective for up to 8 months if left undisturbed. It might be the leftover dust from your treatment before Bb. Bb isn't supposed to be able to survive past 2 weeks unless it is continually being "passed on" to new hosts to feed off of right? Anyway, its been 8 months now and I'm still being bit. Nothing in my climb ups and no harborages found yet. Not even the little black spots. Nothing. Maybe I've got ghost bugs but something is biting me in rows and all over my face. Sigh.

bed-bugscouk on "Finally can upload pictures."

bed-bugscouk — Sun, 19 May 2013 10:43:25 +0000

Hi, Admin can delete but will most likely just lock it and in a few days it will be gone from the main page. It's best where possible to stick to one thread to keep the information together though. David

scaredjenny on "Finally can upload pictures."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 10:14:41 +0000

Hi Not sure how to delete this question as it has already been answered in my last post. Never realise before I uploaded it! 9 days without sleep has driven me crazy! Haha thanks everyone.

loubugs on "Bed Bugs truly can live a LONG TIME without food..."

loubugs — Sun, 19 May 2013 10:03:44 +0000

Do you know the temperatures at which the boxes were stored? Did you notice if the bugs were extremely flat and if adults a dull brown/light brown?

scaredjenny on "Here pics again."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 08:37:25 +0000

Hi thanks I have uploaded it again I have opened a account with imgupr so will be able to post pictures now. Thanks :-))

scaredjenny on "Finally can upload pictures."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 08:32:05 +0000

Here it is from far away. <a href="http://imgur.com/Jlon2do" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/Jlon2do</a> it's really tiny.

bed-bugscouk on "Here pics again."

bed-bugscouk — Sun, 19 May 2013 08:31:47 +0000

Hi, If you are thinking it's faecal the density of the mark is too low so it can't be. Worth spending some time looking at images to increase your ID skills or at least setting up a Flickr account to make posting easier. David

scaredjenny on "Finally can upload pictures."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 08:28:42 +0000

Here's the picture, it was less then 1 mm in size, thanks <a href="http://imgur.com/Px1q99U" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/Px1q99U</a>

scaredjenny on "Here pics again."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 08:24:04 +0000

<a href="http://imgur.com/Px1q99U" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/Px1q99U</a>

scaredjenny on "Here pics again."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 08:15:13 +0000

scaredjenny on "Here pics again."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 08:05:56 +0000

scaredjenny on "Here pics again."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 08:04:52 +0000

Thanks for trying to look anyway! I have read all that but my daft computer is playing up because I was able to upload the pictures the other day! I will keep trying. :-))http://instagram.com/p/Zfhc8hxeYW/

bed-bugscouk on "Here pics again."

bed-bugscouk — Sun, 19 May 2013 07:44:17 +0000

Hi, No images visible, check instructions here: <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/test-13" rel="nofollow">http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/test-13</a> David Cain Bed Bugs Limited

bed-bugscouk on "Invisible Infestation (5 months so far) Painful Bites [photo: dermestid beetle]"

bed-bugscouk — Sun, 19 May 2013 07:41:49 +0000

Hi, It's not bird mites, they can't jump and also tend to associate with the birds nest rather than being actively on the birds themselves. David

bed-bugscouk on "So, how common is recurrence, really?"

bed-bugscouk — Sun, 19 May 2013 07:36:28 +0000

Hi, Reoccurancenis a product of how you got bedbugs in the first place, therefore paint with a broad brush the picture looks like this: Got bedbugs at a hotel - low risk of occurance as most people don't return to the scene of the crime. Got bedbugs from work - higher risk as most people go to same work location 5 times a week. Got bedbugs from neighbour - high risk unless they get treated Got bedbugs at cinema - depends on your viewing frequency but seating location Behaviour is highly conserved so risk higher than perception. It's not that it's a vague question and more that its a complex issu, the patterns of which only become clear with tens of thousands of cases and as such no academic and only a few "hard core" professionals are qualified to comment (about 5 of us at last count - worldwide ). The solution is actually what you take on board from the encounter in terms of future avoidance and on-going monitoring. It's a lot easier to dodge the bullet the second time around because you know what to look for and how time consuming needing treatment is. Hope that helps David Cain Bed Bugs Limited

scaredjenny on "Here pics again."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 07:33:24 +0000

Trying again <img src="http://http://instagram.com/p/ZfeOpQxeWG/">

scaredjenny on "Here pics again."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 07:29:25 +0000

<img src="http://http://instagram.com/p/ZfdbXsReVj/"> hope this one has worked!

scaredjenny on "Here pics again."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 07:26:14 +0000

<img src="http://http://instagram.com/p/ZfdbXsReVj/"> <blockquote><cite>scaredjenny - 1 minute ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/here-pics-again#post-170367"> » </a></cite> <img src="http://http://instagram.com/p/Zfcst1ReVC/"> <blockquote><cite>scaredjenny - 1 minute ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/here-pics-again#post-170366"> » </a></cite> <img src="http://http://instagram.com/p/Zfcst1ReVC/"></blockquote></blockquote>

bed-bugscouk on "Bed Bugs? UK"

bed-bugscouk — Sun, 19 May 2013 07:26:13 +0000

Hi, Firstly welcome, not many UK folks on the forum but there are a few of us. The second thing is that checking hotel rooms is all about avoidance and thus needs to be every location to be certain. All that said bites on feet and leg would lead me to investigate fleas before bedbugs as bedbugs will typically feed from exposed skin first. I would therefore suggest a check in with the FAQ's to refresh your mind about bedbugs and fleas and have a look. There is also a lot of good info in the useful tools section. Hope that helps. David Cain Bed Bugs Limited Usually London based but in the US this week.

scaredjenny on "Here pics again."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 07:24:38 +0000

<img src="http://http://instagram.com/p/Zfcst1ReVC/"> <blockquote><cite>scaredjenny - 1 minute ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/here-pics-again#post-170366"> » </a></cite> <img src="http://http://instagram.com/p/Zfcst1ReVC/"></blockquote>

scaredjenny on "Here pics again."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 07:23:04 +0000

scaredjenny on "ID pic please."

scaredjenny — Sun, 19 May 2013 07:21:32 +0000

Is this bed bug poo, it's a bit blurred on the photo but its less then 1 mm in size. Thankyou.<img src="http://http://instagram.com/p/Zfcst1ReVC/">

Nobugsonme on "What to bag before treatment, besides clothes"

Nobugsonme — Sun, 19 May 2013 04:07:12 +0000

Alcohol-wiping and vacuuming things down is by a reliable way to kill or remove every bed bug or egg present. Running dry clothing through a hot dryer for 1/2 hour does. So I would consider a sealed bag of clothing run through a hot dryer "treated," but a bag of items vacuumed or wiped down "untreated."

nmurcia on "Invisible Infestation (5 months so far) Painful Bites [photo: dermestid beetle]"

nmurcia — Sat, 18 May 2013 23:52:16 +0000

Wow, I have had the same problem for a week now, invisible bugs biting me. Started the day I was in the blackberry tree picking berries and shooing the birds away. I have suffered for a week with an itchy body, head and prickly feeling of bite and when I look nothing there. Yet I have bite marks throughout the week, under arms, legs, thighs, stomach, back. They itch a few days and seem to get dry. Then more bites appear and I couldn't figure out what it was. But after reading this forum and seeing the bugs in the container.. ugh, figured it was a mite and yes it bites. Now it all makes sense. Today after picking berries and then i was looking at the bottom of the container I noticed the miniscule little mites, they moved quick and seem to jump. Bird mites? Fruit/ tree mites? I immediately went in to get those clothes off and directly into washer and a hot, hot shower. Now praying that I've washed them all off. I've stripped my bed and bleached the sheets and now definitely staying away from that blackberry tree. The birds win!!!

cilecto on "Prevention: Vintage Toys & Collectibles"

cilecto — Sat, 18 May 2013 22:43:56 +0000

> - Are they truly odorless? My family has a bunch of REALLY sensitive noses, so that's important. Odor is not the main problem with DDVP strips. The vapors they emit can be harmful to humans in sufficient doses. They need to be used in accordance with their label, which IIRC, calls for not using inside spaces occupied by people for significant lengths of time.

bugsinsf on "What to bag before treatment, besides clothes"

bugsinsf — Sat, 18 May 2013 22:02:18 +0000

Thanks, Nobugsonme! Just one clarification, what do you mean by "untreated"? I did vacuum and wipe stuff with rubbing alcohol. Thanks.

Atwarwithbedbugs on "Sleepless and losing my mind over these bugs!"

Atwarwithbedbugs — Sat, 18 May 2013 21:59:59 +0000

Thank you everyone. I will do my research and ask questions, I don't think I asked enough questions when this company came. I think I freaked out more than anything and wanted the help ASAP. I just read horror stories of people who spent so much money and they still have bed bugs. I understand no one wants to write a success story right away because the problem may not actually be gone yet and then they forget becuase they want to get their life back to normal. I don't blame them one bit. I've been in my house for almost 2 months and I'm still not fully unpacked after discovering these almost 2 weeks after we moved in. I've drained my wallet buying my kids new mattresses and encasements for every bed, mattress and box spring. These things are brutal! My sympathies for everyone out there dealing with this!

bugsinsf on "So, how common is recurrence, really?"

bugsinsf — Sat, 18 May 2013 21:59:20 +0000

Thanks, that's exactly the kind of explanation I was looking for!