http://bedbugger.com/forum/ Bed bug support forums en Mon, 20 May 2013 16:47:22 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/responses-to-your-questions-amp-situation#post-170460 Mon, 20 May 2013 12:36:25 +0000 P Bello 170460@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>OK </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/product-questions-amp-answers#post-170459 Mon, 20 May 2013 12:35:27 +0000 P Bello 170459@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>OK, thanks guys ! </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/product-questions-amp-answers#post-170458 Mon, 20 May 2013 12:31:29 +0000 Nobugsonme 170458@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Thanks, Lou! </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/responses-to-your-questions-amp-situation#post-170457 Mon, 20 May 2013 12:28:46 +0000 Nobugsonme 170457@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Hi Paul,<br /> Does the person who sent these questions to you know where you responded?<br /> Can you please make the title reflect the subject a bit more in future? This may be confusing for people.</p> <p>Rather than reposting questions from PMs under an anonymous sounding banner (to avoid naming people), I recommend asking people who PM you to repost their OWN questions on the forum at which point they can send you a link to the thread so you can join in on responding.</p> <p>That way you're not reposting their PMs (which isn't a good idea even without usernames attached) and they can actually decide what's exposed so they can participate in the thread. Plus if they name the thread, there's no question they will find it. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/product-questions-amp-answers#post-170456 Mon, 20 May 2013 12:27:33 +0000 loubugs 170456@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>header states tenprid sc, not temprid sc </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/could-a-bed-bug-have-came-through-the-window#post-170455 Mon, 20 May 2013 12:23:14 +0000 Nobugsonme 170455@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Yes, I should have said "most likely not."</p> <p>We've had people here describe actual bed bugs in ways I wouldn't. In this case, I agree I wouldn't worry about a random bug from outside being a bed bug or related species, and just to be clear, I wouldn't call a pest control company.</p> <p>If an ID would reassure you, though, you can post a photo next time. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/bedbugs-with-alot-of-pets-please-help#post-170454 Mon, 20 May 2013 12:19:06 +0000 Nobugsonme 170454@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>AutumnRain said,<br /> <blockquote><br /> It's only the landlords job to pay for an exterminator if that is the law of whatever state you live in.I live in Maryland,and the law here is that the landlord only has to pay if more then one unit is effected.</blockquote></p> <p>Keep in mind that when tenants don't report bed bugs, the landlord may not know more than one unit is affected. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/product-questions-amp-answers#post-170453 Mon, 20 May 2013 12:13:37 +0000 Nobugsonme 170453@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Hi Paul,<br /> I added two product names (Nuvan and Temprid SC) to this thread so the person whose PN you're responding to (and others with interest) will find it more easily.</p> <p>As a general rule, the more specific the header, the better! </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/official-bed-bug-k9-industry-thread#post-170452 Mon, 20 May 2013 12:10:01 +0000 Nobugsonme 170452@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Thanks, Sheree,</p> <p><blockquote>10.8.3. In some situations, the client may elect to have the room(s) treated without<br /> secondary confirmation. "</blockquote></p> <p>The problem with this is it sounds like the consumer is making an educated choice.</p> <p>Whereas we hear of consumers whose inspectors seem to push treatment based solely on a dog alert. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/official-bed-bug-k9-industry-thread#post-170451 Mon, 20 May 2013 10:37:14 +0000 Canuck 170451@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>IBBMA's 'Best Management Practices' states:<br /> [quote]10.8. Prior to making a treatment, the canine handler or a pest management professional<br /> should attempt to confirm the canine alert by:<br /> 10.8.1. Visually inspecting the area to confirm the presence of an active infestation, or<br /> 10.8.2. Utilizing a second canine team, or,<br /> 10.8.3. In some situations, the client may elect to have the room(s) treated without<br /> secondary confirmation. "</p> <p>At least the visual confirmation is listed first! Sheree </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/do-bed-bug-mattress-and-pillows-covers-work#post-170450 Mon, 20 May 2013 10:33:28 +0000 loubugs 170450@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>With mattress encasement there is no added value from the "bedbug approved" products over a simple cost effective one and with regards pillow encasement I cant find any justification for them.</blockquote><br /> Think about it. You put a pillow in an encasement and you put this unit into a pillow case. What have you accomplished? Bed bugs will be able to climb into an open side of the pillow case and thereby infest the encased pillow that is in a pillow case. Bed bugs can also harbor under an encased pillow as it rests on the encased mattress.<br /> <blockquote>&gt; Do I need to have pillow encasements?<br /> Here I agree with David because I can simply place my pillow in the dryer and run it through the hot cycle rendering it bed bug free fairly quickly.</blockquote><br /> As Paul and David noted above If you used a pillow encasement and pillow case, you could have the infestation inside the case, so the dryer will help out here. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/could-a-bed-bug-have-came-through-the-window#post-170449 Mon, 20 May 2013 08:38:35 +0000 rs1971 170449@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <blockquote><p><cite>Nobugsonme - 8 hours ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/could-a-bed-bug-have-came-through-the-window#post-170444">&nbsp;&raquo;&nbsp;</a></cite><br /> Bed bugs aren't long and black so as the previous respondent said, probably not a bed bug. </p></blockquote> <p>I think that 'probably' not a bed bug is an understatement. Even setting aside the description, the likelihood that some random bug from outside is a bed bug is so small that in any other context, we'd call it zero. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/bed-bug-boys-2013-calender#post-170448 Mon, 20 May 2013 08:26:17 +0000 AbsolutelyFreaking 170448@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <blockquote><p><cite>bed-bugscouk - 2 days ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/bed-bug-boys-2013-calender#post-170301">&nbsp;&raquo;&nbsp;</a></cite><br /> My official name with titles and qualifications is:<br /> Master David Cain PgCert, BSc(Hons), ESQ<br /> David</p></blockquote> <p>Now <strong><em>that's</strong></em> a mouthful! :)</p> <blockquote><p><cite>bed-bugscouk - 2 days ago <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/bed-bug-boys-2013-calender#post-170301">&nbsp;&raquo;&nbsp;</a></cite><br /> What is this 50 shades thing?<br /> David</p></blockquote> <p>I believe TAOT was referring to 50 Shades of Gray, although I haven't personally read it . . . yet. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/product-questions-amp-answers#post-170447 Mon, 20 May 2013 08:25:43 +0000 P Bello 170447@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Here's your Questions/Comments and my Responses below.</p> <p>By posting my reply on the BBRF we are able to help others with similar questions and concerns !</p> <p>( Note to all, I have a professional relationship as a consultant to various product manufacturers. However, if something works and I recommend it I will always tell you. Conversely, if something does not work, I'll tell you that as well. )</p> <p>C: Before making another massive purchase of $200 + I would like to know if I should get anything else besides the Temprid SC.</p> <p>R: $200+ can be a significant amount to many folks however, we need to remember that we can't kill a bed bug twice. Just sayin.</p> <p> C: I also have in my cart some Nuvan strips, more Bedlam, Tempo dust, and a better sprayer for the Temprid. </p> <p>R: If you have a good sprayer you can get by with just having the Temprid SC product. This is so because you can use the sprayer to apply the Temprid to the same harborage areas that you'd have done using the aerosol. Also, pound for pound, (i.e. area covered per volume of spray product solution) aerosol products generally cost a tad more to apply. kwik, do the math someone and see if I'm not correct on that one. Note that I recommend Bedlam Plus and not the original Bedlam product.</p> <p>My questions:<br /> Q: - do the Nuvan strips work well?</p> <p>R: Yes they do. In fact, when used correctly the ddvp strips such as Nuvan are one of the best bed bug remediation product choices available in the US. However, please note that I specifically stated "when used correctly" ! These strips are NOT magic and simply purchasing them and applying them will NOT turn any homeowner, jackleg spray jocky or other would be bed bug homie into a KQ, Winston O'Buggy (really sir, drop that effin name step forward for the benefit of your market region), DS, DC or other suitable pro. REMEMBER, it's how a product is used which is much more important than which product is used when bed bugs are the target pest !</p> <p>Q: Will it help me get rid of the bugs that are packed away before it is time to unpack them? </p> <p>R: Yes it can if used correctly.</p> <p>C: I am scared of any reinfestation even though I searched everything before placing in totes.</p> <p>R: OK, we don't need to be scared. Concerned yes, scared not so much. Firstly, and we've addressed this b4, you're a Buckeyes fan. Be scared of still being a Buckeyes fan for more than an hour longer. Be scared tha Coach Myer might not make it through another season b4 heading back to the Gators &amp; SECville which is NCAAFootballnervana !</p> <p>C: My PCO is coming for "inspection only" but not until Friday. He didnt seem pleased that I found an adult. He said I have to be bringing them in.</p> <p>R: Well, we'd not expect him to be "pleased" or happy however, this is the nature of his chosen profession. And, as far as re-introduction and "bringing them in" we'd have to ask "from where?" Is your job vulnerable to bed bug introduction or encounters? Do you work at such a place that bed bugs can reasonably be expected to be encountered there? Have you traveled? Had overnight guests? Etc, etc, etc ???</p> <p>C: I KNOW I am not doing so. I think I am missing something.</p> <p>R: OK, so this is a non-issue provided that you and your family have NOT encountered bed bugs whilst away from home.</p> <p>C: My house is 4 bedrooms, 2400 sq feet, and I have searched every square inch. I am tired.</p> <p>R: I'm tired too. I'm tired of Buckeyes Fans. ooops, just kidding there. Well, if you're still seeing live bed bugs then perhaps you need to tighten your bed bug dragnet search down from "every square inch" to every square millimeter. No one said bed bug work was easy. IN FACT, it ain't effin easy cause if it were, we wouldn't need this excellent Bed Bugger Forum (gratuitous comment to Nobugs there) would we ?</p> <p>However, keep after it and you will eventually succeed, I promise !</p> <p>Thanks for all your help!<br /> Your "favorite" Buckeyes Fan </p> <p>R: It's what I do, even for "OSU Fans" Good luck and hope this helps ! paul b. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/bedbugs-with-alot-of-pets-please-help#post-170446 Mon, 20 May 2013 08:12:13 +0000 AutumnRain 170446@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>It's only the landlords job to pay for an exterminator if that is the law of whatever state you live in.I live in Maryland,and the law here is that the landlord only has to pay if more then one unit is effected.<br /> They agreed to treat ours anyways though because a good landlord knows that if they don't treat they will just spread and create a bigger problem.</p> <p>The pet situation is a problem though,because even if your landlord agrees to treat,you will still have to find another place for your animals for at least a day.They cannot be in there during treatment.<br /> And if you are seeing that many live bugs,then it sounds like you really need them to do something about it. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/do-bed-bug-mattress-and-pillows-covers-work#post-170445 Mon, 20 May 2013 07:55:28 +0000 AutumnRain 170445@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>It is has been my experience that sprays don't really do a whole lot.They are good if you see live bugs,but don't do much to keep killing them.The diatomaceous earth dust is the only thing I have found that does any good.It is very slow at killing the bugs,because it is not a poison.It works by cutting their bodies and dehydrating them.</p> <p>Some helpful tips to not get bit at night:<br /> buy some square containers and put the bed frame legs in it surrounded by the dust.This way any bugs not on the bed will have to crawl through the dust to get to you.<br /> Use double sided tape to surround your bed frame too.Bugs will get stuck on it and it is a good way to monitor how many bugs you have.</p> <p>There is no real need to buy pillow encasements-but if not you should wash and dry your pillows on high heat.Hope this helps! </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/could-a-bed-bug-have-came-through-the-window#post-170444 Mon, 20 May 2013 00:28:38 +0000 Nobugsonme 170444@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Bed bugs aren't long and black so as the previous respondent said, probably not a bed bug.</p> <p>If you do see a bug that you think is a bed bug, you can post a photo for ID. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/could-a-bed-bug-have-came-through-the-window#post-170443 Mon, 20 May 2013 00:10:35 +0000 rs1971 170443@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>You shouldn't call pest control to be 100% sure. You should forget about it because (a) it wasn't a bed bug and (b) it's certainly not the only bug in your room right now. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/could-a-bed-bug-have-came-through-the-window#post-170442 Sun, 19 May 2013 23:56:39 +0000 Empiral 170442@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>It shouldn't have gone far, it's probably hiding in the corner of my room that I am closely inspecting. Strangely I cannot find it, nor could I hear anything or see it coming out. Could it be dead or something? </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/could-a-bed-bug-have-came-through-the-window#post-170441 Sun, 19 May 2013 23:53:40 +0000 Empiral 170441@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>So what would be the best way to do a self check of bugs? I strongly dislike the thought of a bug hiding in my room. If you have experience, please help! </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/could-a-bed-bug-have-came-through-the-window#post-170440 Sun, 19 May 2013 23:48:39 +0000 Empiral 170440@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Today I left my window open and forgot to close it. When I looked again a bug has fallen in, it's a bit long [I dunno how to describe it, since I didn't get a close look as I get very nauseated at the sight of insects] and black, and as I tried to kill it it ran and disappeared. Now what should I do? What are the chances it is a bed bug? If it is, what should I do? Should I just call in pest control to be 100% sure? </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/bb-returned-after-first-treatment-10-days-need-help#post-170439 Sun, 19 May 2013 23:28:59 +0000 liminchun 170439@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>I have just dusted my whole room, mattress, and bed frame with Diatomaceous Earth. I hope this stuff works. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/need-help-with-two-ids#post-170438 Sun, 19 May 2013 22:15:22 +0000 NMCOT 170438@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Thanks to both responders for your help. We should have mattress, box spring, and pillow encasements/covers by Tuesday. Not sure if we have bed bugs that aren't leaving any trace or if something else is going on. Maybe my wife had an allergic reaction to carpet beetles or perhaps something else is biting her. Thanks again for the help. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/is-this-a-bed-bug-found-in-dustpan#post-170437 Sun, 19 May 2013 22:01:20 +0000 LolaRox 170437@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Thank you! It most definately helps </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/is-this-a-bed-bug-found-in-dustpan#post-170436 Sun, 19 May 2013 22:00:22 +0000 P Bello 170436@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Not a bed bug. Hope his helps ! pjb </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/is-this-a-bed-bug-found-in-dustpan#post-170435 Sun, 19 May 2013 21:44:44 +0000 LolaRox 170435@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>I was sweeping and this lil critter ran out of the dustpan. It was yellowish and I am scared it is a bedbug.<br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/95874690@N04/8755079623/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/95874690@N04/8755079623/</a><br /> Can someone please help me identify this bug.<br /> I am very anxious right now.<br /> Thank you all. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/finally-have-a-date-heat-treatment-scheduled-this-saturday-hope-it-works#post-170434 Sun, 19 May 2013 21:41:23 +0000 Paranoid12 170434@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Yes, they confirmed the last time back in Sept when I was getting a quote then but was too poor to afford it. They re-verified. I keep a little sample of 3 bugs in the freezer...and I still have them &gt;.&gt;</p> <p>There is a 21 day guarantee. At the 21 days, a dog comes out to verify whether or not the bugs are gone. If they aren't, another heat treatment is done, free of charge. I just hope to God that they are because, 1) I don't want to get bit again, and 2) I don't feel like going through all that prep again. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/just-how-effective-is-heat-treatment#post-170433 Sun, 19 May 2013 21:38:15 +0000 Paranoid12 170433@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>There is a 21 day guarantee. They have a dog come out to verify the riddance of the bugs 21 days after the treatment. If he picks up on some, then they do another heat treatment, free of charge. They also put down 2 chemicals as a part of the treatment. The paper lists Alpine and Temprid.</p> <p>I ended up keeping the couch. I will get a new one, because this one is just done, even if there wasn't even bed bugs. They targeted the couch, so I think it got a fair dose of fire. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/bedbugs-with-alot-of-pets-please-help#post-170432 Sun, 19 May 2013 20:23:42 +0000 Nobugsonme 170432@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>As Ci said,</p> <p><blockquote>First up, if you're seeing a lot of bugs, please post a picture here, so that we can positively determine if what you believe are bed bugs truly are.</blockquote></p> <p>Keep in mind there are bed bugs, then there are closely related species like bat bugs which may also be a problem.</p> <p>There are also completely unrelated species like rat mites that might be the cause.</p> <p>If you post a photo, someone can hopefully confirm the diagnosis which is the first step.</p> <p>Unfortunately, as Cilecto said, you kind of have to face the music with all this. I'm not a lawyer, but keeping bed bugs (or other pest problems) a secret from the landlord, and thus allowing them to get worse, may have legal repercussions that go beyond getting evicted. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/what-to-put-on-bed-bug-bites#post-170431 Sun, 19 May 2013 20:20:58 +0000 Nobugsonme 170431@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>How to post a photo:<br /> <a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/test-13" rel="nofollow">http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/test-13</a> </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/bb-returned-after-first-treatment-10-days-need-help#post-170430 Sun, 19 May 2013 20:18:55 +0000 Nobugsonme 170430@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>In the four step process under "fumigation" it says they fog. (With all-natural products? Does this mean cedar oil?!?)</p> <p>affordablebedbugcontrol.org/Our-4-Step-Procedure.html</p> <p>Paul, or other US PMPs -- hypothetically, if someone in the US is using "all natural" EPA-exempt products, do they still need to be a licensed to apply pesticides? Or could someone conceivably with little knowledge of pests start a business like this? (I stress I'm not saying that's what's happening here.)</p> <p>I mean it's not like all licensed PMPs are bed bug experts, but it does sort of up the ante a bit if you have some kind of professional training and licensing process. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/need-a-pros-weigh-in-on-description-of-what-i-found-for-id#post-170429 Sun, 19 May 2013 20:14:47 +0000 Nobugsonme 170429@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>And why not drop Lou Sorkin an email and ask if he ever received your sample? It's possible it went missing. If you need his email, send me a PM. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/responses-to-your-questions-amp-situation#post-170428 Sun, 19 May 2013 20:11:43 +0000 P Bello 170428@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Q: I've had the dog come sniff and 2 PCO's say I don't have the bugs. However, I keep getting bitten (all after a trip to a hotel), find random blood spots on the bed, and today found a strange amber looking bug particle while doing the laundry. </p> <p>R: Remember, we need to find physical evidence of bed bugs before we can be 100% that you have bed bugs. If you're being bitten over time there will be more and more physical evidence present to be found. You will need to inspect all the usual places where bed bugs hide thoroughly. You might also try setting your alarm for say 3:00 AM and go bed bug hunting.</p> <p>Q: My husband threw it away without knowing I wanted to keep it. </p> <p>R: It's better to retain the specimen for ID pruposes, as you already know.</p> <p>Q: I know there is a good chance that I may not have the bugs, but I also have this old Florida style home with lots of nooks and crannies everywhere and spots where the baseboards don't touch the floor. Is it possible to go this long (over a month) with no sightings of actual bugs, moltings, or fecal matter on sheets or cloth despite daily inspections? </p> <p>R: Of course, anything is possible and bed bugs may go an exteneded period of time without feeding.</p> <p>Q: Also, I saw that you were able to recommend a PCO in the Orlando area some time ago to someone? May I ask who that was and why you recommended?</p> <p>R: Yes, you can. Why? Generally because I know them and trust that they would take care of their customers well.</p> <p>Q: Should I just wait and see now? </p> <p>R: Well, you're the customer and you paid for service. So, you needent feel that you're otherwise bothering your service provider by contacting them and asking questions. It may be prudent to wait for a while to see what happens however, you should continue to conduct thorough inspections if you think you're still being bitten.</p> <p>Hope this helps ! paul b. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/need-a-pros-weigh-in-on-description-of-what-i-found-for-id#post-170427 Sun, 19 May 2013 19:44:55 +0000 help_me 170427@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Thank you so so so so much. If I could hug you I would. I'm going to be a little shaken up the rest of the night but it's a load off my mind now. </p> http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/need-a-pros-weigh-in-on-description-of-what-i-found-for-id#post-170426 Sun, 19 May 2013 19:41:19 +0000 bed-bugscouk 170426@http://bedbugger.com/forum/ <p>Hi,</p> <p>100% certain, I don't guess I use science and experience to work these things out.</p> <p>David </p>