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<title>Got Bed Bugs? Bedbugger Forums: Recent Posts</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:00:13 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>miked366 on "Ziplocs and Packtites"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/ziplocs-and-packtites#post-62784</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>miked366</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I have been putting them in the packtite with other items and reusing them a couple times now.  Seem to be pretty durable.
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<title>bugbuster on "dog inspection - false positive"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/dog-inspection-false-positive#post-62783</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bugbuster</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The question remains, however, what do you do when a dog alerts and a visual inspection yields nothing?   Do you treat or not?  That was dreamersball's situation - she did not treat - and my sister's - and she did.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We won't get into how a dog could have completely missed an infestation that was so bad the bed frame couldn't be salvaged.
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<title>DougSummersMS on "dog inspection - false positive"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/dog-inspection-false-positive#post-62782</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>DougSummersMS</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The root problem here is that there was no physical confirmation of the K9 alert.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;K9 alerts must verified with visual confirmation. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A properly handled K9 is a wonderful screening tool, but ultimately the inspection becomes a visual one after the K9 has identified a well defined search area.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The PCOs that are creating these problems are the ones that are not performing this critical quality control procedure. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As Dr. Potter recently stated during his presentation at Pestworld (paraphrasing Tom Cruise) &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;SHOW ME THE BUGS!!!&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If the K9 alerts are properly confirmed ... We won't see these kind of problems.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We can't just say that a similar dog handled by its trainer was 98% accurate in the laboratory. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We need to break out a flashlight and get down on bended knee and verify any K9 alerts prior to treatment. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We won't be able to verify every single alert do to inaccessible spaces &#38;#38; other conditions.... but we should be confirming the majority of the alerts... if the handler is performing his job properly.
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<title>bugfreebed on "Phantom .125, PCO question, please help"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/phantom-125-pco-question-please-help#post-62781</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bugfreebed</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;A lot of the entomologist that are studding bed bugs collected from the field believe that some where close to 90%  of the populations are resistant to pyrethroids to at least some degree . This is where Phantom comes in being that it is not a pyrethroid , and it might be a slower acting on bed bugs it will kill resistant and non-resistant strains .
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<title>watkinsnewan on "What does one do should a harborage be discovered?"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/what-does-one-do-should-a-harborage-be-discovered#post-62780</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>watkinsnewan</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Cant the BB or egg get sucked through a knee high they stretch..
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<title>bugcrazylady on "new bigger bug photo! bed bug?"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/new-bigger-bug-photo-bed-bug#post-62779</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bugcrazylady</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;phew, ok thanks everyone. this bug scared me the most so far. vacuuming again today...
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<title>bugbuster on "dog inspection - false positive"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/dog-inspection-false-positive#post-62778</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bugbuster</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Which movie theater?
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<title>bugbuster on "Ziplocs and Packtites"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/ziplocs-and-packtites#post-62777</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bugbuster</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;First, can you put a ziploc bag in a packtite and second, if you can, would that ziploc be safe to be re-used after a trip through it?
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<title>Full Couch Encasement on "Couch Encasements"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/couch-encasements#post-62776</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Full Couch Encasement</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Thanks again for the feedback and questions. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Sofa Safe IS totally breathable. All part of the design.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Yes it will take a serious &#34;beating&#34; very durable. Jump Away!! :-) &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you have beg bugs - The Sofa Safe is a great product to stop the spread, save the couch, and kill what's inside. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;All sales are through distributors/pest control companies. We no longer sell direct through website. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Anyone who would like to purchase or distribute you can contact me direct. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Not sure if I'm following the rules, but my email is &#60;a href=&#34;mailto:nobugs@thesofasafe.com&#34;&#62;nobugs@thesofasafe.com&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As for color, yes tan pics will be up soon. The white actually renders better online. You can see it better. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But again we are not selling direct to end-user. So Pest companies will be able to describe color or show color to customer. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Pricing varies according to amount purchased. Minimum order is 5.
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<title>coosyaa on "Fecal Spots/Blood Spots???"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/fecal-spotsblood-spots#post-62775</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>coosyaa</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Can someone please take a look at tell me what they think? I have two dark spots on two different pillow cases and one blood spot (the size of 1/4 of a penny). The thing about the blood spot is that i kind of had a large pimple on my face and think it might be from that.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://picasaweb.google.com/bedbuggs/Bedbugs#&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://picasaweb.google.com/bedbuggs/Bedbugs#&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I haven't gotten any bites and neither has my boyfriend. I also haven't seen any kind of spots on anything except for my pillows.  Is it possible to have bed bugs and not have any bites? Any suggestions?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thank you very much.
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<title>buggedout16 on "I've got them... freaking out and sad"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/ive-got-them-freaking-out-and-sad#post-62774</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>buggedout16</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;:-)  thanks cilecto.  you keep making me feel better, I appreciate it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I guess it's gonna be till Monday before the PCO comes, since they haven't come yet and the landlord's office closes @ 2pm on Saturdays.  I guess I should have got the number for the PC  company myself, but I wasn't thinking.  I did leave my number (and name; it's a huge complex and they don't really know their tenants).  So hopefully that helps.  I gave them the sample I had; they said they would give it to the PCO when he/she comes.  I suppose I should have hung onto it, but at least I do still have the photos, in case it gets lost (surely not!)  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Guess I should get back to sorting/washing.
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<title>buggedout16 on "Can bed bugs crawl along plastic, e.g. cable cord?"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/can-bed-bugs-crawl-along-plastic-eg-cable-cord#post-62773</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>buggedout16</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;OK as I am trying to clear my apartment etc, I noticed something I'd never have thought anything of before... My cable TV connection is in the bedroom and I have a connecting cord that sits on the floor and goes from the bedroom all the way to the living room where my TV is.  It's plastic coated but I'm thinking now that the bugs could possibly be much more widespread in my apartment than I thought, if they can travel that way.  The cord is not really near my bed, but I mean it is in the same room.  Unfortunatley I guess the bugs have already spread that way if it's going to, but as an added help, should I unhook it and get rid of the cord, or what???  Thanks...
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<title>cilecto on "I've got them... freaking out and sad"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/ive-got-them-freaking-out-and-sad#post-62772</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>cilecto</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#38;gt;  if I have been to any hotels lately(no), &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;AND IT'S NONE OF THEIR &#60;a href=&#34;mailto:F@IN&#34;&#62;F@IN&#60;/a&#62; BUSINESS.
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<title>dreamersball on "dog inspection - false positive"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/dog-inspection-false-positive#post-62771</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>dreamersball</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;soscared - 21 hours ago &#60;a href=&#34;http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/dog-inspection-false-positive#post-62702&#34;&#62;&#38;nbsp;&#38;raquo;&#38;nbsp;&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
Thank you for sharing! Do you still get bites?&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I haven't gotten a bite in 2-3 weeks.  I  have psychosomatic itching all the time, however; killerqueen said that and being freaked out by bits of fluff should last about 6 years. ;)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'll report back if anything untoward happens, but we're hoping we &#34;dodged a bullet&#34; as my dad would say. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;One confounding factor I should add is that flew to LA &#38;#38; stayed in a hotel for a weekend not long before the bites appeared -- I'm not sure about the exact timing -- so it may be that it was there or at some point during the traveling that we got the bites. A friend of mine told me that she always sees a bite or two of some sort after she goes to a movie theater in manhattan. This has never happened to me, but of course it makes me never want to go to a movie again.
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<title>rod on "Moved. One week in. Did I manage to ditch them?"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/moved-one-week-in-did-i-manage-to-ditch-them#post-62770</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>rod</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;So after three treatments: two from the LL's sketchy PCO, and one steam and spray treatment from a reputable PCO that I paid for out of my own pocket I got ready to move. The last PCO said that he didn't see any live BBs during the last treatment. Unavailable in Toronto and/or out of my price range included: bug sniffing dogs, Vikane treatments, heat treating trucks, or Packtites. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Here are the precautions I did take:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;1. Threw out mattress&#60;br /&#62;
2. Used Rubbermaid containers rather than cardboard boxes for most things. Boxes were sealed with Vapona to be opened after 2 weeks. I know this is not a sanctioned or recommended practice, but I wanted to try something other than discarding/sealing away for a year and a half my 700 books and records&#60;br /&#62;
3. Put all paper knick knacks in the freezer in bags where they'll stay undisturbed for 2 weeks.&#60;br /&#62;
4. Re-bagged all laundered and bagged clothing (i.e.: I put the bag of clean clothes into a *new* bag just for peace of mind.&#60;br /&#62;
5. All electronics and music gear that I could not steam or freeze I vacuumed every day in the lead up to the moving day.&#60;br /&#62;
6. Left behind all items *too risky* that were close to the problem and hard to clean i.e.: luggage, two fans, and some other knick knacks.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Things I risked: Stereo, 3 guitars, two amps, recording equipment, framed pictures (not close to the bed area), desktop computer.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm now sleeping on a futon mattress donated by a friend before I have my old bed from back in Ottawa brought over in a month. I have D.E.ed the mattress and the baseboards of my room in a preventative measure. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So a week or so in and I haven't seen ANYTHING. the only place I see BBs are in my bad dreams (two last night). I know that it takes time before one can declare victory but what I realize is that it's really hard for me to tell if I have them or not. I don't react to bites and never did. I never actually saw one except when they were in my mattress that I've since discarded. Where should I be looking? How and when can try to detect them without spending more money?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Any advice or assessment of my precautions would be appreciated.
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<title>buggyinsocal on "For PCO does anyone know about this supper heating the house"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/for-pco-does-anyone-know-about-this-supper-heating-the-house#post-62769</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>buggyinsocal</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;You might want to search the boards here for &#34;thermal&#34; as most people refer to the treatment by that term.  You'll find a lot more posts about the subject that way, including my own account of the thermal treatment I had back in June of 2008.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I live in one unit in a four plex.  I had thermal even though I have an apartment.  Thermal can be a great option even in multi-unit buildings so long as it is accompanied by inspection to assure that all adjacent units are either uninfested or are being treated at the same time.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Keep in mind that with conventional chemical treatment, you will be required to continue acting as bait to lure the bugs out to cross the residual chemical poisons put down to kill the bugs.  In addition, with chemical treatment, you may very well require more than one treatment since there are no chemicals that reliably kill 100% of bed bug eggs. As a result, with chemical treatment, you're basically luring the already existing bugs out to feed on you in order to get them to cross residual poisons after the first treatment, and then on a second or subsequent treatment, you're continuing to lure out the bugs that hatched from the eggs that weren't killed the first time.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Some people are far more able to tolerate--mentally and physically--being bait than others.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In addition, thermal isn't without its risks.  It's likely to damage at least some items in your home, even with prep that follows all directions.  If your PCO gives you good instructions and you follow them carefully, the damage is likely to be minor.  However, I also think it's important to be really clear about the pros and cons of any treatment option.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If I had it to do all over again, I would absolutely choose thermal a second time; however, I was lucky enough to get a good PCO who got it right the first time.  I'm not sure that people who've been treated by less skilled PCOs would say the same.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I would personally be at least as concerned about researching the PCO in question as I would be about researching the method.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hope that helps some.
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<title>tinyvampire on "Sprayway-Good Night product"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/sprayway-good-night-product#post-62768</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi, all:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sorry to open up this old thread, but I'm looking for more recent comments/thoughts on the efficacy of Sprayway Goodnight (in lieu of Bedlam).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We've had three treatments now (by a PCO who used Suspend) on our baseboards, furniture and floors.  Our last treatment was on November 6.  I've had several bites in between each treatment.  My husband isn't sensitive, so he's not sure if he's been bitten since the treatments.  We're sticking with the bagging protocol and slowly Packtiting all of our belongings that can't go into the dryer (a rather time consuming process!).  Hopefully we'll be in the clear by January.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm sleeping on a tiny folding Ikea bed, and my husband is on the couch (since we took our bed to the landfill a while ago).  Both were treated three times by the PCO, but I'm pretty sure I'm still being bitten in both places, so I've sprayed both my mattress and the couch with Sprayway in between the last two treatments, and since the last treatment.  I don't trust that couch.  Though I haven't seen live bugs in it (and the PCO cleared it), there seems to be an increase in little red blotches on the underside of the cushions.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The bites I've been getting since the third treatment have been on my face or neck (the rest of my body is totally covered when I sleep or walk around our place), which I'm guessing is because I've been bitten on the couch when I've laid there, or maybe there are stray rogues hanging out in our piles of books on the floor (which are waiting there to be Packtited) that made it into my bedframe before I put the Climbups down there.  But there's residual on the bed frame, couch and floor...hopefully any living bugs won't last long?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;OK, I'm straying way off-topic here.  All of this said, since I'm totally broke (after the very expensive PCO treatment and all of the purchases of other stuff for the arsenal...you all know, I don't have to list them all), I went with Sprayway instead of Bedlam (though I did go through one can of Bedlam), since it's a fraction of the cost of Bedlam.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Are people finding now that Sprayway is working for them?  Does it also kill eggs, and have an effective residual like Bedlam?  Or am I just spraying a toxic contact killer?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thank you,&#60;br /&#62;
-Tinyvampire
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<title>buggedout16 on "I've got them... freaking out and sad"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/ive-got-them-freaking-out-and-sad#post-62767</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>buggedout16</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I just brought my &#34;specimen&#34; down to the landlord's office- the lady working there this AM is really nice so that helped, kept saying she was sorry- I was afraid they were going to treat me like dirt or blame me which she didn't.  She called and left a message with the pest control company and they will either come by today or, if they can't, Monday morning.  She also had to call her manager who asked how long I'd lived there (over 4 years), if I have been to any hotels lately(no), stuff like that.  I could hear her (the manager's) &#34;Oh GOD!!&#34; over the phone.  Haha- that's my sentiments exactly too right now.  I guess I will start putting the laundry and such in bags for now and start doing some wash.  I guess that is the best place to start?   But not the sheets or anything, right, until the pest control people see them? (I put tape down all around my bed last night but didn't &#34;catch&#34; anything, guess I'll see how it goes)
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<title>bed-bugscouk on "On London Radio again this morning"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/on-london-radio-again-this-morning#post-62766</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bed-bugscouk</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Another normal Saturday morning, woken up by a radio researcher asking to have a chat about bed bugs on air and hour or so later.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00541w6/Vanessa_Feltz_21_11_2009/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00541w6/Vanessa_Feltz_21_11_2009/&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;2:36:16 in&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Nothing earth shattering about the information for seasoned bed buggers but its all about getting the message out there.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Look and avoid is much better than suffering.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I will be doing another podcast session later int he day and will post the link when its online.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;David Cain&#60;br /&#62;
Bed Bugs Limited
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<title>bugfreebed on "being bit-never found the bugs!"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/being-bit-never-found-the-bugs#post-62765</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bugfreebed</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;PCO' s should never spray in a situation like this without solid prof of the problem at hand . It drives me nuts to hear these stories of people who spend hundreds of dollars and count less hours of prep assuming its BB without any prof . Early detection is important with BB but we should never start treatment with some solid prof a casting, eggs , bed bugs , something !&#60;br /&#62;
   bugged if you get the chance please let us know how this turns out for you .   &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;ROB
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<title>bugfreebed on "For PCO does anyone know about this supper heating the house"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/for-pco-does-anyone-know-about-this-supper-heating-the-house#post-62763</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bugfreebed</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The Thermal is a great option in single family homes , condos and apartments can get a little tricky . Your a little unclear does your neighbors have BB and what are they  planing to do ?  If you do the heat and your neighbors don't I would back it up with an application of dust in the wall voids ( outlet covers , pipes, cracks) and caulk all the cracks in the unit .
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<title>BBcoukHome on "new bigger bug photo! bed bug?"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/new-bigger-bug-photo-bed-bug#post-62762</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi, &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Its definite that its not a bed bug.  The image pixilates too much to get a positive id but my gut its leading towards  woodlice type species, see:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodlice&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodlice&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I would suggest that you send it to an entomologist for confirmation.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;David Cain&#60;br /&#62;
Bed Bugs Limited
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<title>flabergasted on "For PCO does anyone know about this supper heating the house"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/for-pco-does-anyone-know-about-this-supper-heating-the-house#post-62761</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I just discovered these things in house.  My brother and I both started getting  weird bites around the same time.  I thought it was scabies because of the way I was reacting and did the treatment for them.  I didn't get anymore for awhile so I guess the BB's don't like the skin treatment.  I noticed a couple of new bites and the pharmist said sometimes it takes a second treatment.  Well before I wasted the $50 cream for a 2nd treatment my brother phones and says it not scabies we have bed bugs because he caught one in his couch.  Well my couch and recliner are full of them.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So in my search for a pest control company I ran across this Thermal exterminating.   I watched the videos where they were using it in hotels on the US and thought it was better than spraying pesticideds in my house.  Low and behold we have one of the only two companies in Canada that do it here in our city.  So I called and spoke with him - the low down of the conversation is it costs about $1,700 the process is they seal up the house bring the heat up to 140 degress and sustain for 4 hours and basically cook them - you do the cleanup.  He says you don't have to get rid of your furniture and it also kind of acts like a cleanser as well for any mold, dust mites or other creepy crawlers.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I was told by someone I am probably better off spraying because I have a condo but we have solid concrete block walls between us and they could be coming in at the foundation joint.  Were not sure who's house got it first but my neighbors moved in two months before the 1st bites appeared and big brothers downstairs tenat is a prison guard.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So the delema here is spend 1,700 maybe it works or go the spray route and take the $1,500 I am saving toast the couch because the PCO I found will do the fisrst spray and followups for 750.00 .&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;For some peoples interest while reading the forums I used my H20 Mop and mini steamer last night on the couch after I riped the bottom off  and they cooked just fine.
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<title>EffeCi on "new bigger bug photo! bed bug?"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/new-bigger-bug-photo-bed-bug#post-62760</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Mmmh... looks like a cast skin, but not a BB's one.
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<title>bait on "being bit-never found the bugs!"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/being-bit-never-found-the-bugs#post-62759</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bait</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Your story is so very very familiar. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hope things have gotten better for you. You seemed pretty distraught, then we didn't hear from you again.
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<title>bait on "Another bite question!"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/another-bite-question#post-62758</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bait</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;You haven't gotten an answer to your question because no one has one. Everybody reacts differently and the insects you mentioned are not related, except that they all bite humans.  The similarities end there.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In fact, your reaction to the same bug/bite can and will be different because of location and your immunity or immune-suppression.
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<title>bait on "new bigger bug photo! bed bug?"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/new-bigger-bug-photo-bed-bug#post-62757</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bait</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Search for pics of isopods aka terrestrial crustaceans aka sowbugs aka woodlouse aka armadillia. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If it's a match, then search this forum for comments. I have isopods aka terrestrial crustaceans aka sowbugs aka woodlouse aka armadillia. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Roly polys, by the way, are in the same family but the above stated bugs do not necessarily roll up.
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<title>bedbuggery on "Interesting "It happened to me" ALERT! Read!"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/interesting-it-happened-to-me-alert-read#post-62756</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bedbuggery</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yes, the I think I had a mild case of silicoses from applying too much dust.&#60;br /&#62;
Let me afford you another theory based on my experience... I happened to have a nervous breakdown as well, I had a doctor put me on tranqs on christmas eve because I was freaking out. It's sort of complicated to explain but it goes something like this; I was having strong anaphylactic attacks. I also was having panic attacks. These two things fed each other, because an allergic attack manifests a lot of the same feelings as a panic attack. And likewise acute stress can worsen allergic reactions.&#60;br /&#62;
Ergo- I had a nervous breakdown. What I eventually learned was that I could drastically reduce my allergic response psychosomatically. What i learned from THAT was how to nurse my immune system back to health holistically. The reason I bring all this would be that BB's can cause skin conditions like hives, which look and behave just like temporary BB bites. It has been my experience that encountering things which bring back the BB horror (pre-infested items, or the encased bed I slept on for months) would elicit a psychosomatic response that could result in HIves, rashes, or nausea. Yes, pesticides can be extremely unhealthy, you can read their MSDS to find out to what degree. My thoughts are that because your &#34;bites&#34; manifested in the shower this would be something called &#34;shower urticaria (hives)&#34; which is prob. from the heat of the water meeting your newly sensitive skin, combined with a psychosomatic response from your encounter w/ the old things in your closet which brought back the experience.&#60;br /&#62;
It's like the Bedbugs are haunting you.... creepy eh?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Like you I came back to this forum after months because of this lingering voice that said &#34;WTF happened?&#34;
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<title>bugcrazylady on "new bigger bug photo! bed bug?"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/new-bigger-bug-photo-bed-bug#post-62755</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bugcrazylady</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi, so I found a bigger (still dead) specimen of the bug I have been finding in my apartment. He looks more brown colored than the others(they looked more greyish), but he is still pretty oval shaped. His back has striped ridges over the whole thing, but his belly looks as though he has more than 6 legs (I could be wrong though, it is hard to see).  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;can anyone tell me if this is a Bed Bug? And if not, can it still bite me?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks!!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(The first link is his underbelly, and the second is his back. Also, I have 6 more pictures in the same album)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://s895.photobucket.com/albums/ac152/danielletocco/New%20Bug%2011-21-09/?action=view&#38;#38;current=DSCN1039.jpg&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://s895.photobucket.com/albums/ac152/danielletocco/New%20Bug%2011-21-09/?action=view&#38;#38;current=DSCN1039.jpg&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://s895.photobucket.com/albums/ac152/danielletocco/New%20Bug%2011-21-09/?action=view&#38;#38;current=DSCN1046.jpg&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://s895.photobucket.com/albums/ac152/danielletocco/New%20Bug%2011-21-09/?action=view&#38;#38;current=DSCN1046.jpg&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>btaggart on "Phantom .125, PCO question, please help"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/phantom-125-pco-question-please-help#post-62754</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>btaggart</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;im not an entomologist just a pco but from what ive heard there are resistant and non-resistant strains of bed bugs in all areas of the world with infestations.  but again im not an entomologist so i would rather have one of the entomologist answer this question
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<title>bait on "Couch Encasements"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/couch-encasements#post-62753</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bait</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;...and what's the price?
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<title>bait on "Phantom .125, PCO question, please help"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/phantom-125-pco-question-please-help#post-62752</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bait</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Thanks Btaggert. I know JWhite is one of our good guys. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I would like to move on to the substantive issues.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Does anyone know if there are differing strains of BBs in the same area? What do we know about different strains having different (or slower) kill rates? Would that be a correct characterization, or are different kill rates more a result of exposure resistance?
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<title>btaggart on "Phantom .125, PCO question, please help"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/phantom-125-pco-question-please-help#post-62751</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>btaggart</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;bait,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;i only post here once in a while when i really feel its important.  i don't think jwhite is being uncivil.  he is a very well respected member of the pest control industry,  i personally would take his word on pesticide usage as well as bed bug protocols.  im sure its very frustrating for him when he puts in so much time and effort to benefit this industry and people misquote research and facts.   that's just my opinion i could be wrong.  and i say this with no bias since both of these guys work in the same area as the company i work for does.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;brian
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<title>bait on "Phantom .125, PCO question, please help"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/phantom-125-pco-question-please-help#post-62750</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bait</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I appreciate the debate. A little taken aback by the uncivil tone, though. Whether we like it or not, no one has a silver bullet. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm wondering, since these two pest pros have such disparate results, perhaps the strain of C.lectularius is responding differently. Where ever bugboy is, maybe the bugs in his area are showing resistance. Maybe these two people are in different hemispheres.
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<title>bait on "Couch Encasements"</title>
<link>http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/couch-encasements#post-62749</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bait</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Please give the dimensions. You know, it may be great for things other than sofas.
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