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		<title>Curbed &#8220;outs&#8221; bedbugged condo development; gossip blogs, bed bugs, and denial</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/27/curbed-outs-bedbugged-condo-development-gossip-blogs-bed-bugs-and-denial/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Curbed.com, the real estate blog, claims that 30 Lincoln Plaza, currently being redeveloped into pricey condominiums (Curbed mentions a price of $1,185,000 for 647 sq/ft one bedrooms), is infested with bed bugs:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curbed.com, the real estate blog, claims that 30 Lincoln Plaza, currently being redeveloped into pricey condominiums (Curbed mentions a price of $1,185,000 for 647 sq/ft one bedrooms), <a href="http://curbed.com/archives/2007/10/26/curbedwire_huge_nyt_trees_in_midtown_bedbugs_bedbug_dogs_at_30_lincoln_plaza_condo_idd_on_the_ues.php">is infested with bed bugs:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>UPPER WEST SIDE—It seems there is a little detail about the condo conversion at 30 Lincoln Plaza that may have been overlooked: &#8220;You failed to mention that the building is infested with bed bugs&#8230;the management has confirmed this and is handing out pamphlets and they have even had a bedbug sniffing dog in some apartments..who knew! I would think this situation is going to really boost sales on those $1,185,000 647 sq/ft one bedrooms.&#8221; Bedbug sniffing dogs?!? Excellent. [CurbedWire Inbox]</p></blockquote>
<p>While it&#8217;s always surprising to find out another building has bed bugs, it&#8217;s a good thing that the building management is aware and is taking action.  I hope they undertake aggressive treatment throughout.  (Imagine, hypothetically, the legal activity that would ensue if some units were infested but did not identify the presence of pests, were not treated, and were sold infested.)</p>
<p>This item from Curbed.com reminds me that a lot of the interesting bed bug &#8220;news&#8221; in the last four days has been leaked via gossip blogs: <a href="http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/24/cadwalader-wickersham-and-tafts-bed-bugs-part-two/">legal</a> gossip, <a href="http://curbed.com/archives/2007/10/26/curbedwire_huge_nyt_trees_in_midtown_bedbugs_bedbug_dogs_at_30_lincoln_plaza_condo_idd_on_the_ues.php">real estate</a> gossip, <a href="http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/26/harvard-dorm-treated-for-scabies-but-what-was-it-really/">ivy league</a> college gossip (although this one probably had another itchy culprit).  </p>
<p>Unlike &#8220;real&#8221; news&#8211;which is covered in the newspapers, and on TV and radio&#8211;like the spread of MRSA drug-resistant staph bacteria, <a href="http://wcbstv.com/local/superbug.mrsa.brooklyn.2.413073.html">which tragically killed a 7th grader in Brooklyn, </a> bed bugs aren&#8217;t yet confirmed to cause disease and death.  They have been unofficially confirmed to cause distress, stress, anxiety, sleeping trouble&#8211;and in rare cases, allergic reactions so severe they can kill.  But nothing compared with the threat of deadly MRSA.  I saw an ABC news segment here in NYC Friday night&#8211;kids at the school that youngster attended, were carrying bottles of purell, and startled parents and teachers were looking on in amazement as they reported washing their hands after using the lavatory (ABC7 produced multiple clips in which the students admitted this was <em>new</em> behavior.)  The segment also featured a poster on the door of the school, and though it was not shown close-up, I am pretty certain it warned that the school had been exposed to MRSA and that people had to take precautions not to catch it.</p>
<p>Since bed bugs aren&#8217;t on the same level of threat, the reasoning seems to go, we don&#8217;t need to actually warn people about bed bugs in specific locations.  And so &#8220;bed bug reports&#8221; are confined to the realm of gossip blogs.  </p>
<p>Yes, it is true that hotels, real estate developers and brokers, restaurants, theaters and other businesses that are reported to have bed bugs in the mainstream media, will face worried customers and may lose business.  The hotel industry in NYC, in particular, will be hard hit.  One can only assume Mayor Bloomberg chooses to avoid confronting and admitting the true number of infested homes and businesses in this city (which I first considered in <a href="http://bedbugger.com/2006/12/13/village-voice-bed-bugs-and-beyond/">this post</a>), because it would scare off tourists, who contribute so much to the city, as well as negatively affecting real estate, and maybe even how people spend their leisure time (and money).</p>
<p>But it does not follow that if we do not discuss bed bugs, publicly, then they will go away.  The opposite is true:  as long as businesses are in denial, or putting up a bed-bug-free front, the problem will keep spreading at an alarming rate, and eventually, I believe, the hit on businesses will be greater.</p>
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		<title>Craigslist Clinton Hill apartment ad, &#8220;must tolerate bed bugs&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An anonymous reader tipped us off to an apartment ad on Craigslist.  The ad, which has now been taken down, is reproduced on Curbed.com, and offered a NYC loft share for $750.  Wow! But read on:

We are 2 guys and 2 girls; all young professional types. I&#8217;m an artist going back to get [...]<script type="text/javascript">SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "Craigslist Clinton Hill apartment ad, &#8220;must tolerate bed bugs&#8221;", url: "http://bedbugger.com/2007/08/16/craigslist-clinton-hill-apartment-ad-must-tolerate-bed-bugs/" });</script>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An anonymous reader tipped us off to an apartment ad on Craigslist.  The ad, which has now been taken down, is reproduced on <a href="http://curbed.com/archives/2007/08/15/the_catch_bugging_out_in_clinton_hill.php">Curbed.com</a>, and offered a NYC loft share for $750.  Wow! But read on:</p>
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We are 2 guys and 2 girls; all young professional types. I&#8217;m an artist going back to get my Masters, we have an Architect, an Engineer and a Business professional. We are all laid back and would love someone who can fit in to the group. </p></blockquote>
<p>But as Curbed noted, there was a huge catch:</p>
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Very Important note: you must tolerate bugs! We have bugs now and then since we live in an old old converted warehouse with tons of places for them to come from. Although they are not common, they do come in and bite us <img src='http://bedbugger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> The other bad thing is that we only have One bathroom so we must plan around that detail. Other than those two cons, its an awesome place!</p></blockquote>
<p>How many young professionals does it take to screw in a lightbulb?  Seriously, folks. Yes, I am assuming the biting bugs are bed bugs. Bed bugs are not a small annoyance to be tolerated.  Occasional bed bug bites lead to a full-blown infestation quicker than you can finish that Master&#8217;s in art.</p>
<p><em>(Note:  <a href="http://curbed.com/archives/2007/08/15/the_catch_bugging_out_in_clinton_hill.php">reading the Curbed comments</a> confirms the advertisers meant &#8220;bed&#8221; bugs.)</em></p>
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		<title>Maya Rudolph&#8217;s former loft (again): bedbugs ADD value!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#8217;ll be.
Real Estate blog Curbed has done a bit of cybersleuthing and found the location of the Maya Rudolph / Paul Anderson SOHO loft (they recently fled its bed bugs).  It turns out the loft is back on the sales and rental market, and the rental price has gone up from $13,500 to [...]<script type="text/javascript">SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "Maya Rudolph&#8217;s former loft (again): bedbugs ADD value!", url: "http://bedbugger.com/2006/11/07/maya-rudolphs-former-loft-again-bedbugs-add-value/" });</script>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ll be.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.curbed.com/archives/2006/11/06/on_the_market_paul_and_mayas_bitey_pad.php">Real Estate blog Curbed has done a bit of cybersleuthing and found the location of the Maya Rudolph / Paul Anderson SOHO loft</a> (they recently fled its bed bugs).  It turns out the loft is back on the sales and rental market, and the rental price has gone up from $13,500 to $16,000.  I guess the presence of some bed bug nymphs and instars (which we all know are <em>probably</em> still there, since it takes a lot of exterminating, of an entire building, to get rid of them) actually <em>adds</em> value to an apartment.   <a href="http://www.halstead.com/detail.aspx?id=1042293&amp;a=RGM">When broker Halsted says &#8220;pets allowed&#8221;, you assume they aren&#8217;t <em>included.</em></a></p>
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