Comments on: Forget black mattress stains, bed bugs, shells, and eggs: NMPA press release tells consumers to look for “blood spots” http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/ bed bug news, information, activism, and support Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:33:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: hopelessnomo http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-9727 hopelessnomo Wed, 28 May 2008 15:17:29 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-9727 Ramona, you should post your question in the forums where a professional may see it and give you an opinion. Blue button above right. Ramona, you should post your question in the forums where a professional may see it and give you an opinion. Blue button above right.

]]> By: ramona http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-9720 ramona Mon, 26 May 2008 18:35:45 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-9720 Is it possible to see bloodstains on a mattress when it has not been slept it? I just put a mattress encasement last night. I slept on the couch. This morning there was a tiny little red blood mark on the mattress encasement. How is that possible? Is it possible to see bloodstains on a mattress when it has not been slept it?

I just put a mattress encasement last night. I slept on the couch. This morning there was a tiny little red blood mark on the mattress encasement.

How is that possible?

]]> By: Dawn http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-6856 Dawn Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:36:00 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-6856 blood spots as in 'fecal specks' or blood spots as in 'red blood' from a wound? blood spots as in ‘fecal specks’ or blood spots as in ‘red blood’ from a wound?

]]> By: Anonymous http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-6837 Anonymous Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:53:23 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-6837 I was infested wtih bed bugs for 5 weeks before I realize what those bites I was getting were. I only two bloodspots on the sheets in all that time. I was infested wtih bed bugs for 5 weeks before I realize what those bites I was getting were. I only two bloodspots on the sheets in all that time.

]]> By: Anonymous http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-6835 Anonymous Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:18:21 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-6835 the NPMA is actually not talking about blood spots as in 'blood from a wound', they are referring to blodd spots as in fecal specks. i spoke with them directly about it. the NPMA is actually not talking about blood spots as in ‘blood from a wound’, they are referring to blodd spots as in fecal specks. i spoke with them directly about it.

]]> By: parakeets http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-6596 parakeets Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:59:00 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-6596 I support monitoring bedbugs by looking for blood spots. That's how I'm monitoring my waning (joy!!!!!) infestation. I think it's too hard to describe fecal spots and cast skins to a lay person, and even after months of infestation I still need a jeweler's loupe to identify what's lint and specks and what's bedbugs. The blood spots are a easier sign, and you don't have to wait until the infestation is so heavy that you can actually see bedbugs. If you have bedbugs, they bite. If they bite, there is often blood evidence. If there were a show "CSI Bedbugs" (I'd watch every freakin' episode) detectives would look for the blood spatter evidence first. I support monitoring bedbugs by looking for blood spots. That’s how I’m monitoring my waning (joy!!!!!) infestation. I think it’s too hard to describe fecal spots and cast skins to a lay person, and even after months of infestation I still need a jeweler’s loupe to identify what’s lint and specks and what’s bedbugs. The blood spots are a easier sign, and you don’t have to wait until the infestation is so heavy that you can actually see bedbugs. If you have bedbugs, they bite. If they bite, there is often blood evidence. If there were a show “CSI Bedbugs” (I’d watch every freakin’ episode) detectives would look for the blood spatter evidence first.

]]> By: nobugsonme http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-6592 nobugsonme Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:08:32 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-6592 Thanks Nomo. I am always floored by the footage on news clips: the PCO showing the news crew the underside of a mattress teeming with bed bugs. So very many cases experienced by Bedbuggers are not like this. There's no smoking gun; there's no gun at all. People drag on for months and months and even longer without finding any definitive signs, except "black specks." PCOs need to learn from our experience. Some of them do know. But we have not seen a drastic change yet in terms of what people without obvious signs are being told, except that many of them are now being treated anyway, presumably by PCOs who have now seen that bed bugs are not always that obvious. Thanks Nomo.

I am always floored by the footage on news clips: the PCO showing the news crew the underside of a mattress teeming with bed bugs.

So very many cases experienced by Bedbuggers are not like this. There’s no smoking gun; there’s no gun at all. People drag on for months and months and even longer without finding any definitive signs, except “black specks.”

PCOs need to learn from our experience. Some of them do know. But we have not seen a drastic change yet in terms of what people without obvious signs are being told, except that many of them are now being treated anyway, presumably by PCOs who have now seen that bed bugs are not always that obvious.

]]> By: hopelessnomo http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-6587 hopelessnomo Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:55:00 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/10/28/forget-black-mattress-stains-bed-bugs-shells-and-eggs-nmpa-press-release-tells-consumers-to-look-for-blood-spots/#comment-6587 This is very interesting, Nobugs. I'm reminded of the story shared by a person in the forums about a very famous PCO advising that only about 5% of people "see" their bugs and that seeing one is not a good sign. I'm mostly depressed by the prevalent situation: PCOs expect an infestation to be large enough that bugs are actually found by the inspecting techs. But, as we all know, techs are neither detectives nor particularly well trained in inspections. To further complicate this, the PCO firms themselves, for reasons not all having to do with the ethical imperative to treat for <em>identified</em> pests, put little value in inspections. We've even heard of "we don't do inspections" policies! This whole situation is [insert your favorite curse word]. I have a personal fantasy I indulge every time I get pissed by a piece of bedbug news: the advent of alternative treatments that can be purchased or contracted for by consumers with little fuss. Transactions that wholly sidestep PCOs. Yes, there are some wonderful PCOs but they're outnumbered by some really very bad ones. The mind-boggling discrepancy between the industry ideal, a treatment that proceeds from pest identification through the implementation of IPM protocols to eradication, and actual industry practice is not doing anyone any favors as more and more people are getting bedbugs. One thing's for sure, the NPMA have this marketing stuff down. Halloween!? This is very interesting, Nobugs.

I’m reminded of the story shared by a person in the forums about a very famous PCO advising that only about 5% of people “see” their bugs and that seeing one is not a good sign.

I’m mostly depressed by the prevalent situation: PCOs expect an infestation to be large enough that bugs are actually found by the inspecting techs. But, as we all know, techs are neither detectives nor particularly well trained in inspections. To further complicate this, the PCO firms themselves, for reasons not all having to do with the ethical imperative to treat for identified pests, put little value in inspections. We’ve even heard of “we don’t do inspections” policies!

This whole situation is [insert your favorite curse word].

I have a personal fantasy I indulge every time I get pissed by a piece of bedbug news: the advent of alternative treatments that can be purchased or contracted for by consumers with little fuss. Transactions that wholly sidestep PCOs.

Yes, there are some wonderful PCOs but they’re outnumbered by some really very bad ones. The mind-boggling discrepancy between the industry ideal, a treatment that proceeds from pest identification through the implementation of IPM protocols to eradication, and actual industry practice is not doing anyone any favors as more and more people are getting bedbugs.

One thing’s for sure, the NPMA have this marketing stuff down. Halloween!?

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