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	<title>Comments on: Bed Bugs in NYC schools: DOE spokeswoman Marjorie Feinberg needs better bed bug information</title>
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		<title>By: NYC DOE now provides information on their website about bed bug policy in schools &#124; bedbugger</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/07/08/bed-bugs-in-nyc-schools-doe-spokeswoman-marjorie-feinberg-needs-better-bed-bug-information/#comment-4896</link>
		<dc:creator>NYC DOE now provides information on their website about bed bug policy in schools &#124; bedbugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] No huge changes here, but I thought you&#8217;d be interested to see the &#8220;Bed Bug Kits&#8221; the NYC Department of Education is providing to school employees. Remember, teachers need to hunt down a bed bug in their classroom, have it mailed off for identification, and then action will be taken. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] No huge changes here, but I thought you&#8217;d be interested to see the &#8220;Bed Bug Kits&#8221; the NYC Department of Education is providing to school employees. Remember, teachers need to hunt down a bed bug in their classroom, have it mailed off for identification, and then action will be taken. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/07/08/bed-bugs-in-nyc-schools-doe-spokeswoman-marjorie-feinberg-needs-better-bed-bug-information/#comment-4481</link>
		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Winston,

I guess I was simply trying to express that PCOs could not use all of the same chemicals in fighting bed bugs in schools that they could use in a home.

Is this incorrect?  

If not, perhaps my phrasing was the problem.  When I said the city's PCO's, I did not mean they were necessarily different people, but that the job site / employer was different.

I think everyone would be grateful for any clarification of the difference in treating bed bugs in schools vs. homes based on LL37, if you could clarify what you've seen in this regard.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Winston,</p>
<p>I guess I was simply trying to express that PCOs could not use all of the same chemicals in fighting bed bugs in schools that they could use in a home.</p>
<p>Is this incorrect?  </p>
<p>If not, perhaps my phrasing was the problem.  When I said the city&#8217;s PCO&#8217;s, I did not mean they were necessarily different people, but that the job site / employer was different.</p>
<p>I think everyone would be grateful for any clarification of the difference in treating bed bugs in schools vs. homes based on LL37, if you could clarify what you&#8217;ve seen in this regard.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Winston O. Buggy</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/07/08/bed-bugs-in-nyc-schools-doe-spokeswoman-marjorie-feinberg-needs-better-bed-bug-information/#comment-4474</link>
		<dc:creator>Winston O. Buggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must differ with you in regard to the following statement....
"most people would be shocked to know that their own PCO is legally able to use products legally in their home, where their kids live, in ways the city's PCOs can't use them in public housing or schools, and public hospitals, for example. (The law restricts certain chemicals and has certain requirements for 24 hour notification of spraying.)"

First off a significant amount of city work is contracted out so it is often the same PCOs who treats both. As far as the materials they are all labeled for use in the areas they are to be used and most have restrictions in regard to keeping children out of the area during and immediately after applications. Schools have tighter restrictions because kids are always there during the day which is when most if not all the work is done. Additionally much of the chemical restrictions are based on political agendas and not on science. If the same criteria for double and triple margins of safety applied to medications, vaccines and modern medicine we would see an increase in illness and mortality. I think local law 37 which started as a pesticide reduction program has gone too far and will and has caused an increase in pest activity. In the future this maybe offset by increased Integrated Pest Management protocols but at the moment the crescendo of bed bug laughter is deafening .......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must differ with you in regard to the following statement&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;most people would be shocked to know that their own PCO is legally able to use products legally in their home, where their kids live, in ways the city&#8217;s PCOs can&#8217;t use them in public housing or schools, and public hospitals, for example. (The law restricts certain chemicals and has certain requirements for 24 hour notification of spraying.)&#8221;</p>
<p>First off a significant amount of city work is contracted out so it is often the same PCOs who treats both. As far as the materials they are all labeled for use in the areas they are to be used and most have restrictions in regard to keeping children out of the area during and immediately after applications. Schools have tighter restrictions because kids are always there during the day which is when most if not all the work is done. Additionally much of the chemical restrictions are based on political agendas and not on science. If the same criteria for double and triple margins of safety applied to medications, vaccines and modern medicine we would see an increase in illness and mortality. I think local law 37 which started as a pesticide reduction program has gone too far and will and has caused an increase in pest activity. In the future this maybe offset by increased Integrated Pest Management protocols but at the moment the crescendo of bed bug laughter is deafening &#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/07/08/bed-bugs-in-nyc-schools-doe-spokeswoman-marjorie-feinberg-needs-better-bed-bug-information/#comment-4427</link>
		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry LMK, I have now updated it but looks like Nomo got there first.  Thanks Nomo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry LMK, I have now updated it but looks like Nomo got there first.  Thanks Nomo.</p>
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		<title>By: hopelessnomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hopelessnomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, it's the same NYC DOH pdf they had previously released.   It's &lt;a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/vector/vector-faq1.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, it&#8217;s the same NYC DOH pdf they had previously released.   It&#8217;s <a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/vector/vector-faq1.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: LMK Entomologist</title>
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		<dc:creator>LMK Entomologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you update the link to the stop bed bugs safely pamphlet?  I can't find it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you update the link to the stop bed bugs safely pamphlet?  I can&#8217;t find it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bugalina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bugalina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schools both public and private can easily be breeding grounds for bed bugs...Are we all forgetting the video that shows bed bugs crawling behind an electrical socket...there are lots of those in schools...lots of children breathing out lots of CO2 makes for some plentiful blood supply...I remember my son's classrooms as being crowded with cork boards on the walls...and stacks of construction paper and lots of crevices inbetween tiles..and sick kids laying all day long on the several beds in the nurse's office...These present ideal locations for bed bugs...The only bugs I ever saw were in the daytime..I suspect they were out hunting for my blood..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schools both public and private can easily be breeding grounds for bed bugs&#8230;Are we all forgetting the video that shows bed bugs crawling behind an electrical socket&#8230;there are lots of those in schools&#8230;lots of children breathing out lots of CO2 makes for some plentiful blood supply&#8230;I remember my son&#8217;s classrooms as being crowded with cork boards on the walls&#8230;and stacks of construction paper and lots of crevices inbetween tiles..and sick kids laying all day long on the several beds in the nurse&#8217;s office&#8230;These present ideal locations for bed bugs&#8230;The only bugs I ever saw were in the daytime..I suspect they were out hunting for my blood..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ITA -- the gov should mandate reporting from PCO's for both private and public places to track spread.  But of course this is a low (or non) priority since bb's don't spread disease.  But people just don't understand how psychologically distressing they can be, especially if you are allergic and itch like crazy!

I</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ITA &#8212; the gov should mandate reporting from PCO&#8217;s for both private and public places to track spread.  But of course this is a low (or non) priority since bb&#8217;s don&#8217;t spread disease.  But people just don&#8217;t understand how psychologically distressing they can be, especially if you are allergic and itch like crazy!</p>
<p>I</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.  Which is why we the govenment should be tracking the spread.  

And also why people should ask building management and ask private school admin about bed bugs...  after all, we're customers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.  Which is why we the govenment should be tracking the spread.  </p>
<p>And also why people should ask building management and ask private school admin about bed bugs&#8230;  after all, we&#8217;re customers!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know; I just don't think schools are major vectors for spread.  I'm not saying there isn't spread from there.  Certainly if a school is infested, families should be notified -- just as they are when there is an outbreak of lice.   But I think the fact that public housing and some public schools are reporting tends to reinforce the (erroneous) perception that bed bugs are most likely to spread via "public" venues, when in fact the little bloodsuckers are clearly equal opportunity parasites.  

I would guess that it is even more of a problem in private schools, where parents are more likely to be globe-trotting and staying in hotels a lot.  Also private schools are more likely to have upholstered furniture and rugs and such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know; I just don&#8217;t think schools are major vectors for spread.  I&#8217;m not saying there isn&#8217;t spread from there.  Certainly if a school is infested, families should be notified &#8212; just as they are when there is an outbreak of lice.   But I think the fact that public housing and some public schools are reporting tends to reinforce the (erroneous) perception that bed bugs are most likely to spread via &#8220;public&#8221; venues, when in fact the little bloodsuckers are clearly equal opportunity parasites.  </p>
<p>I would guess that it is even more of a problem in private schools, where parents are more likely to be globe-trotting and staying in hotels a lot.  Also private schools are more likely to have upholstered furniture and rugs and such.</p>
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