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	<title>Comments on: Near-sighted paper celebrates dumpster diving outside NYU dorms. Oh, New York Times!</title>
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		<title>By: paulaw0919</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulaw0919</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh. Before bed bugs anyone who entered my home were totally amazed on how clean it was. You could literly eat off the floor at any given day (not that some one would) Religiously I would vacuum my mattress every four weeks.In fact I used to vacuum my living room furniture weekly. We had bed bugs, we had them bad, we did not know for a long time. So is some one supposed to turn over all huge items such as sofas and beds on a weekly basis, vacuum cracks and screws to stay bug free?! That my friend is near impossible to do for any prolonged period of time. Funny enough, now after bed bugs, I clean regularly, but not as I used to. I don't vacuum my mattress at all in fear that there may be bugs that I will disturb and spread in the home. I used to feel gratification in cleaning, now I continue to do so, but in fear. So Jenny, that is what these bugs do, even to the most cleanest of homes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh. Before bed bugs anyone who entered my home were totally amazed on how clean it was. You could literly eat off the floor at any given day (not that some one would) Religiously I would vacuum my mattress every four weeks.In fact I used to vacuum my living room furniture weekly. We had bed bugs, we had them bad, we did not know for a long time. So is some one supposed to turn over all huge items such as sofas and beds on a weekly basis, vacuum cracks and screws to stay bug free?! That my friend is near impossible to do for any prolonged period of time. Funny enough, now after bed bugs, I clean regularly, but not as I used to. I don&#8217;t vacuum my mattress at all in fear that there may be bugs that I will disturb and spread in the home. I used to feel gratification in cleaning, now I continue to do so, but in fear. So Jenny, that is what these bugs do, even to the most cleanest of homes.</p>
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		<title>By: James Buggles</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Buggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 05:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do Jenny's parents know what Ms Kalish is teaching? Yikes! Jenny, most of the world's environmental problems are caused by inadequate regulation. Rather than go dumpster diving and risk getting bed bugs, I suggest you spend your time writing to your elected representatives. After college, you can even work for one and eventually run for office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do Jenny&#8217;s parents know what Ms Kalish is teaching? Yikes! Jenny, most of the world&#8217;s environmental problems are caused by inadequate regulation. Rather than go dumpster diving and risk getting bed bugs, I suggest you spend your time writing to your elected representatives. After college, you can even work for one and eventually run for office.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 04:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Does not the increase in bed bugs actually show how dirty we New Yorkers actually are? If we washed more carefully and maybe cleaned our mattresses once in a while we probably would not have bed bugs.. I guess it’s just our way to blame everything on everyone else."

Oh Jenny, Jenny, Jenny.  That comment about my writing style was not very nice.  But the comments implying people with bed bugs are responsible for their problems is just plain ignorant.

I really hope you don't get bed bugs, because then you might discover they have nothing to do with cleanliness. 

They are an easily transmitted pest, and the nymphs are 1 mm long.  Do you know how small that is?  Would you know if one crawled up your leg while you were standing in a dumpster?

And you're right--you don't need to dumpster dive to get bed bugs.  You can simply live in a multi-unit building and they can walk over from your neighbors.  But you won't believe me until it happens to someone you know.  Someone who washes their sheets and mattresses.  Someone "clean."

I think it is possible to try and defend freeganism, but you're actually showing your lack of knowledge about bed bugs.  And that's why the site exists, after all, to share knowledge about bed bugs.

They are easily spread.  NYU is in an area with many reports of bed bugs.  Lots of people who get bed bugs don't realize that tossing out everything they own isn't necessary.  

And the bottom line is, one way to really waste a lot of your money, and mess up the environment, is to fight a prolonged battle with bed bugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does not the increase in bed bugs actually show how dirty we New Yorkers actually are? If we washed more carefully and maybe cleaned our mattresses once in a while we probably would not have bed bugs.. I guess it’s just our way to blame everything on everyone else.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh Jenny, Jenny, Jenny.  That comment about my writing style was not very nice.  But the comments implying people with bed bugs are responsible for their problems is just plain ignorant.</p>
<p>I really hope you don&#8217;t get bed bugs, because then you might discover they have nothing to do with cleanliness. </p>
<p>They are an easily transmitted pest, and the nymphs are 1 mm long.  Do you know how small that is?  Would you know if one crawled up your leg while you were standing in a dumpster?</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right&#8211;you don&#8217;t need to dumpster dive to get bed bugs.  You can simply live in a multi-unit building and they can walk over from your neighbors.  But you won&#8217;t believe me until it happens to someone you know.  Someone who washes their sheets and mattresses.  Someone &#8220;clean.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think it is possible to try and defend freeganism, but you&#8217;re actually showing your lack of knowledge about bed bugs.  And that&#8217;s why the site exists, after all, to share knowledge about bed bugs.</p>
<p>They are easily spread.  NYU is in an area with many reports of bed bugs.  Lots of people who get bed bugs don&#8217;t realize that tossing out everything they own isn&#8217;t necessary.  </p>
<p>And the bottom line is, one way to really waste a lot of your money, and mess up the environment, is to fight a prolonged battle with bed bugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Kalish, one of the freegan advocates, is my Spanish teacher and you'd be surprised to know how much I learn about freeganism in her class everyday. Not that our Spanish lessons are centered on freegan activities, but her little stories of dumpster diving, recycling, and endless methods of conserving materials have really made me respect freegans. These people do what they do not because they aren't able to do any better for themselves but because the capitalist society we live in is so very wasteful and inconsiderate of the environment. I probably could not find enough courage to do half of what my Spanish teacher does, but this Friday I am goin dumpster diving at NYU! I hope to have fun and enjoy what little part of me will allow me to be a freegan for a day. And about bed bugs.. they don't all come from dumpsters.. Does not the increase in bed bugs actually show how dirty we New Yorkers actually are? If we washed more carefully and maybe cleaned our mattresses once in a while we probably would not have bed bugs.. I guess it's just our way to blame everything on everyone else. Also, I say the person who wrote this article is a bit underqualified for the job... "Arrrggghhhhh! Trash tours!!!" How did you get hired with such bad syntax?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Kalish, one of the freegan advocates, is my Spanish teacher and you&#8217;d be surprised to know how much I learn about freeganism in her class everyday. Not that our Spanish lessons are centered on freegan activities, but her little stories of dumpster diving, recycling, and endless methods of conserving materials have really made me respect freegans. These people do what they do not because they aren&#8217;t able to do any better for themselves but because the capitalist society we live in is so very wasteful and inconsiderate of the environment. I probably could not find enough courage to do half of what my Spanish teacher does, but this Friday I am goin dumpster diving at NYU! I hope to have fun and enjoy what little part of me will allow me to be a freegan for a day. And about bed bugs.. they don&#8217;t all come from dumpsters.. Does not the increase in bed bugs actually show how dirty we New Yorkers actually are? If we washed more carefully and maybe cleaned our mattresses once in a while we probably would not have bed bugs.. I guess it&#8217;s just our way to blame everything on everyone else. Also, I say the person who wrote this article is a bit underqualified for the job&#8230; &#8220;Arrrggghhhhh! Trash tours!!!&#8221; How did you get hired with such bad syntax?</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dragon, 

Unless you are VERY young, you grew up in a time and place where bed bugs were almost unheard of.  I grew up with secondhand stuff and thrift stores too, but bed bugs were not the danger then that they are now.  

Believe me, bed bugs are circulating via freecycle and Craigslist, as well as other secondhand sources.  Entomologist Michael Potter tells us up to 50% of people don't react to bed bug bites and so may have no idea they are infested.  Still more will be infested for a time and passing things on long before they notice the problem.

Yes, keeping stuff isolated then washing / drying on hot is fine, but you should realize MOST people do not know to do this.  That's what we're up against.

Climbing in a dumpster, well, that's another thing entirely...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dragon, </p>
<p>Unless you are VERY young, you grew up in a time and place where bed bugs were almost unheard of.  I grew up with secondhand stuff and thrift stores too, but bed bugs were not the danger then that they are now.  </p>
<p>Believe me, bed bugs are circulating via freecycle and Craigslist, as well as other secondhand sources.  Entomologist Michael Potter tells us up to 50% of people don&#8217;t react to bed bug bites and so may have no idea they are infested.  Still more will be infested for a time and passing things on long before they notice the problem.</p>
<p>Yes, keeping stuff isolated then washing / drying on hot is fine, but you should realize MOST people do not know to do this.  That&#8217;s what we&#8217;re up against.</p>
<p>Climbing in a dumpster, well, that&#8217;s another thing entirely&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I think it depends on the type of item. Many items, such as clothing, can be brought into the house in a plastic bag and immediately thrown in the washer and dryer as soon as you bring them into the house.

Also, if you aren't literally dumpster diving but are instead using a service such as Freecycle, you can hope that people who know that they have infestations aren't passing on their stuff.

I may be biased because I grew up in an extremely poor family and almost everything I owned growing up was picked out of the dumpster or bought at a thrift store. If you clean things when you bring them into the house it is usually fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I think it depends on the type of item. Many items, such as clothing, can be brought into the house in a plastic bag and immediately thrown in the washer and dryer as soon as you bring them into the house.</p>
<p>Also, if you aren&#8217;t literally dumpster diving but are instead using a service such as Freecycle, you can hope that people who know that they have infestations aren&#8217;t passing on their stuff.</p>
<p>I may be biased because I grew up in an extremely poor family and almost everything I owned growing up was picked out of the dumpster or bought at a thrift store. If you clean things when you bring them into the house it is usually fine.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 03:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes--I have to say that in the age of bed bugs, this is not a good idea.  I am all for 

"Use it up,
wear it out,
make it do,
or do without!"

And I am all for less consumerism.

But those who've encountered bed bugs know how much money, energy, pesticides and (dare I say it) WASTE is involved in treating bed bugs, and this is something freegans need to be warned about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8211;I have to say that in the age of bed bugs, this is not a good idea.  I am all for </p>
<p>&#8220;Use it up,<br />
wear it out,<br />
make it do,<br />
or do without!&#8221;</p>
<p>And I am all for less consumerism.</p>
<p>But those who&#8217;ve encountered bed bugs know how much money, energy, pesticides and (dare I say it) WASTE is involved in treating bed bugs, and this is something freegans need to be warned about.</p>
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		<title>By: paulaw0919</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulaw0919</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sorry but after going what we went through to rid these things, seeing that other bedbuggers were reaching out to her to try and air something on the importance of not spreading bed bugs....and then seeing THAT air on her show!!! It just really pissed me off. So now how many thousands more will be becoming these "freegan people" and spreading the wealth (or should I say what turns to poverty) of bed bugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but after going what we went through to rid these things, seeing that other bedbuggers were reaching out to her to try and air something on the importance of not spreading bed bugs&#8230;.and then seeing THAT air on her show!!! It just really pissed me off. So now how many thousands more will be becoming these &#8220;freegan people&#8221; and spreading the wealth (or should I say what turns to poverty) of bed bugs.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www2.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200802/tows_past_20080227.jhtml?promocode=HP11" rel="nofollow"&gt;FYI freeganism was the feature on Oprah today.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www2.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200802/tows_past_20080227.jhtml?promocode=HP11" rel="nofollow">FYI freeganism was the feature on Oprah today.</a></p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 04:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://blog.designpublic.com/2007/06/21/extreme-dumpster-diving-the-freegan-movement/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Apparently&lt;/a&gt; lots of &lt;a href="http://gawker.com/news/the-poors/freegans-want-your-crap-270841.php#c1708348" rel="nofollow"&gt;people&lt;/a&gt; outside of this blog &lt;a href="http://gawker.com/news/the-poors/freegans-want-your-crap-270841.php#c1708603" rel="nofollow"&gt;also&lt;/a&gt; think that dumpster diving and garbage picking is a &lt;a href="http://gothamist.com/2007/06/21/dumpster_diving.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;bad idea&lt;/a&gt; for precisely the same reasons we do.  People who haven't had bed bugs.  &lt;a href="http://gothamist.com/2007/06/21/dumpster_diving.php#comment-1131969" rel="nofollow"&gt;Word&lt;/a&gt; is spreading. &lt;a href="http://commonreader.livejournal.com/948571.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Glad&lt;/a&gt; it's &lt;a href="http://gothamist.com/2007/06/21/dumpster_diving.php#comment-1132079" rel="nofollow"&gt;not just&lt;/a&gt; us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.designpublic.com/2007/06/21/extreme-dumpster-diving-the-freegan-movement/" rel="nofollow">Apparently</a> lots of <a href="http://gawker.com/news/the-poors/freegans-want-your-crap-270841.php#c1708348" rel="nofollow">people</a> outside of this blog <a href="http://gawker.com/news/the-poors/freegans-want-your-crap-270841.php#c1708603" rel="nofollow">also</a> think that dumpster diving and garbage picking is a <a href="http://gothamist.com/2007/06/21/dumpster_diving.php" rel="nofollow">bad idea</a> for precisely the same reasons we do.  People who haven&#8217;t had bed bugs.  <a href="http://gothamist.com/2007/06/21/dumpster_diving.php#comment-1131969" rel="nofollow">Word</a> is spreading. <a href="http://commonreader.livejournal.com/948571.html" rel="nofollow">Glad</a> it&#8217;s <a href="http://gothamist.com/2007/06/21/dumpster_diving.php#comment-1132079" rel="nofollow">not just</a> us.</p>
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