Comments on: Tampa Bay and Southwest Florida residents: do not use the DE from your pool http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/ bed bug news, information, activism, and support Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:38:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Bugalina http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2265 Bugalina Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:20:34 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2265 Well he may be thinking that even some PCO's in London read your Blog, I think many people do. I will ask Jackson again if he will give me the PCO's email. It really perked my curiosity when he referred to Demand as a single compound, and that the stuff he uses is illegal in the States, and not even up for consideration ! I havent heard back from Jackson. I will do my best to get this info..and of course unless we had the name of his company the info he gives cannot really be taken for fact. Anyone online can say they represent a company and give info.,It would be more legitimate if I could put in a phone call to the company and speak directly with them/and or him, if he would give out the name and number. Well he may be thinking that even some PCO’s in London read your Blog, I think many people do. I will ask Jackson again if he will give me the PCO’s email. It really perked my curiosity when he referred to Demand as a single compound, and that the stuff he uses is illegal in the States, and not even up for consideration ! I havent heard back from Jackson. I will do my best to get this info..and of course unless we had the name of his company the info he gives cannot really be taken for fact. Anyone online can say they represent a company and give info.,It would be more legitimate if I could put in a phone call to the company and speak directly with them/and or him, if he would give out the name and number.

]]> By: nobugsonme http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2264 nobugsonme Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:36:03 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2264 I see, although if a chemical is legal in the UK and illegal here, I would think that disclosing its name would not be a trade secret. I see, although if a chemical is legal in the UK and illegal here, I would think that disclosing its name would not be a trade secret.

]]> By: Bugalina http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2263 Bugalina Sat, 14 Apr 2007 11:06:31 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2263 I did email Jackson...in his post I don't think he gave the email of the UK PCO....I'll go back and take a look but I don't remember seeing it...I do hope Alex replys regardless. Jackson emailed me and told me that he doubted the UK PCO would share any info., about his chemicals, not wanting to give away his trade secrets was the gist.... I did email Jackson…in his post I don’t think he gave the email of the UK PCO….I’ll go back and take a look but I don’t remember seeing it…I do hope Alex replys regardless. Jackson emailed me and told me that he doubted the UK PCO would share any info., about his chemicals, not wanting to give away his trade secrets was the gist….

]]> By: nobugsonme http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2262 nobugsonme Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:22:40 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2262 Bugalina, I'm interested in Alex's knowledge too, but out of curiosity, why not contact the UK PCO and ask him directly about the stuff he's talking about? Bugalina, I’m interested in Alex’s knowledge too, but out of curiosity, why not contact the UK PCO and ask him directly about the stuff he’s talking about?

]]> By: Bugalina http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2261 Bugalina Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:06:57 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2261 ALEX...You were involved with DDT policy discussions..interesting..are you familiar with Paul Driessen? I have a question..a PCO from the UK mentioned that he is using a chemical that is not legal in the US...he referred to a chemical used here, in the US, as a "single compound".chemical, that costs more money...can you expound on this at all? I take it to mean that he is using a chemical that is NOT a single compound..but I don't know what this means..since you have a chemistry background can you clear this up somewhat ?? ALEX…You were involved with DDT policy discussions..interesting..are you familiar with Paul Driessen? I have a question..a PCO from the UK mentioned that he is using a chemical that is not legal in the US…he referred to a chemical used here, in the US, as a “single compound”.chemical, that costs more money…can you expound on this at all? I take it to mean that he is using a chemical that is NOT a single compound..but I don’t know what this means..since you have a chemistry background can you clear this up somewhat ??

]]> By: hopelessnomo http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2260 hopelessnomo Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:39:46 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2260 Cool. I'm so glad you don't have bedbugs, and I hope you never get them! But you are lucky that you know about them, I hope you realize. Not knowing about them is the real hazard. All the best. (DDT is a fantasy. Better to look forward to innovation and enterprise.) Cool. I’m so glad you don’t have bedbugs, and I hope you never get them! But you are lucky that you know about them, I hope you realize. Not knowing about them is the real hazard. All the best.

(DDT is a fantasy. Better to look forward to innovation and enterprise.)

]]> By: Alex http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2259 Alex Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:23:01 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2259 hopelessnomo, absolutely. It is a totally academic discussion and there's no doubt we all agree: Don't use pool-grade DE! It doesn't work and presents totally unecessary health risks. Glad I don't have bed bugs and I hope I never get them. I was drawn to the website by the SF article (thanks for the link!) and having been involved in DDT policy discussions re malaria in Africa and the brief thought that if bed bugs are laughing off most other control measures save tenting the house ($$$$$) then perhaps Indoor Residual Spraying (IRS) of DDT would be a viable approach. But that's a whole other ball of wax. hopelessnomo, absolutely. It is a totally academic discussion and there’s no doubt we all agree: Don’t use pool-grade DE! It doesn’t work and presents totally unecessary health risks.

Glad I don’t have bed bugs and I hope I never get them. I was drawn to the website by the SF article (thanks for the link!) and having been involved in DDT policy discussions re malaria in Africa and the brief thought that if bed bugs are laughing off most other control measures save tenting the house ($$$$$) then perhaps Indoor Residual Spraying (IRS) of DDT would be a viable approach.

But that’s a whole other ball of wax.

]]> By: willow-the-wisp http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2249 willow-the-wisp Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:34:16 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2249 Hello Folks in Florida! I think it is so irresponsible for Newspapers and Companies or for anyone to advertise that people SIMPLY use POOL GRADE DE to treat bed bugs. There are much better ways of dealing with a bed bug infestation—get hip guys in Florida! I understand that a lot of papers in Florida, and a lot of people in Florida, lately, are making a sort of a joke out of the whole bed bug explosion in America! Let me tell you Bed Bugs are no laughing matter WHATSOEVER! If you don't believe me, then go ahead and catch them to find this out for yourselves--But I hope it doesn’t come to that, really I do! Six weeks ago I found hundreds of them in my home: absolutely nothing, funny, there; and those few hundred which is considered a Moderate infestation—was an infestation on the verge of exploding 10 fold--then 100 fold and then 1000 fold! Just a few hundred of them have already ruined most of what once was a fairly sedate and rather peaceful life! All I'd seen was five of them--they hide under the matress and in the bedding and in your clothing by day. They make lice look like a pic-nic (PUN INTENDED) MY POINT! It takes a lot of combined efforts and types of treatments (some quite costly and some quite dangerous, all of them time consuming and very grueling. And all of it is Dirty and RATHER UGLY.) So if you get them ... you'll stop laughing or taking bed bugs so lightly down in Florida, and I PRAY you’ll first research what you can do to get rid of them besides using POOL GRADE DE to try and self-treat your homes. I hope each person in Florida who reads this blog will take the time to do some of their own SERIOUS research here—and elsewhere--and then pass that info onto at least 10 others. In about 2 months--1000's upon 1000’s of Floridians will know better how to deal with the ever more tenacious and blood sucking vampire— The “harmless little bed-bug.” which, multiplies 10 fold as well! Hello Folks in Florida!

I think it is so irresponsible for Newspapers and Companies or for anyone to advertise that people SIMPLY use POOL GRADE DE to treat bed bugs. There are much better ways of dealing with a bed bug infestation—get hip guys in Florida!

I understand that a lot of papers in Florida, and a lot of people in Florida, lately, are making a sort of a joke out of the whole bed bug explosion in America!

Let me tell you Bed Bugs are no laughing matter WHATSOEVER!

If you don’t believe me, then go ahead and catch them to find this out for yourselves–But I hope it doesn’t come to that, really I do!

Six weeks ago I found hundreds of them in my home: absolutely nothing, funny, there; and those few hundred which is considered a Moderate infestation—was an infestation on the verge of exploding 10 fold–then 100 fold and then 1000 fold!

Just a few hundred of them have already ruined most of what once was a fairly sedate and rather peaceful life! All I’d seen was five of them–they hide under the matress and in the bedding and in your clothing by day.
They make lice look like a pic-nic (PUN INTENDED)

MY POINT! It takes a lot of combined efforts and types of treatments (some quite costly and some quite dangerous, all of them time consuming and very grueling. And all of it is Dirty and RATHER UGLY.)

So if you get them … you’ll stop laughing or taking bed bugs so lightly down in Florida, and I PRAY you’ll first research what you can do to get rid of them besides using POOL GRADE DE to try and self-treat your homes.

I hope each person in Florida who reads this blog will take the time to do some of their own SERIOUS research here—and elsewhere–and then pass that info onto at least 10 others. In about 2 months–1000’s upon 1000’s of Floridians will know better how to deal with the ever more tenacious and blood sucking vampire—

The “harmless little bed-bug.” which, multiplies 10 fold as well!

]]> By: hopelessnomo http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2248 hopelessnomo Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:07:43 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2248 I was going to try to come up with more info but realize it's a bit of an indulgence during my current bedbug trauma. Let's keep our eye on the ball: pool-grade DE is useless against bedbugs. So messing around with it is not a good idea, as you are exposing yourself, children, pets, etc. to a substance that a) will do nothing to solve your problems and b) many of us believe poses serious respiratory and accidental ingestion hazards. These warnings exist so that people don't experience heartache out of carelessness or desperation. I think we all want to be conservative for the sake of readers surfing in looking for solutions. Just how harmful pool-grade DE might or might not be is a nice intellectual argument--which under less pressing circumstance I'm a sucker for. But we're here to provide the best information available to combat bedbugs. Shall we agree on that? I was going to try to come up with more info but realize it’s a bit of an indulgence during my current bedbug trauma.

Let’s keep our eye on the ball: pool-grade DE is useless against bedbugs.

So messing around with it is not a good idea, as you are exposing yourself, children, pets, etc. to a substance that a) will do nothing to solve your problems and b) many of us believe poses serious respiratory and accidental ingestion hazards. These warnings exist so that people don’t experience heartache out of carelessness or desperation. I think we all want to be conservative for the sake of readers surfing in looking for solutions.

Just how harmful pool-grade DE might or might not be is a nice intellectual argument–which under less pressing circumstance I’m a sucker for. But we’re here to provide the best information available to combat bedbugs. Shall we agree on that?

]]> By: nobugsonme http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2247 nobugsonme Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:24:40 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/10/tampa-bay-do-not-listen-to-your-cbs-affiliate-do-not-use-the-de-from-your-pool/#comment-2247 Another Update 4/11: Unfortunately, the Southwest Florida News-Press article “State Sees Bed Bug Invasion” includes the entire original Tampa Bay 10 article referred to above, including the advice to buy pool grade DE from the pool supply store. There’s no comment box. There’s no telling how many other Florida papers may carry this story, online or off. That’s a lot of misinformation. Interestingly, the side-box on the article announes “More from News-Press.com:” and the subsequent link “Learn about bed bugs” directs readers to Bedbugger.com, without mentioning us by name. (And clearly, what you’re reading right now is not “More From News-Press.com” at all.) Okay, let me start over: Welcome, News-Press readers, and please look at our FAQs. Much of what was written in the article you just read was erroneous… Another

Update 4/11: Unfortunately, the Southwest Florida News-Press article “State Sees Bed Bug Invasion” includes the entire original Tampa Bay 10 article referred to above, including the advice to buy pool grade DE from the pool supply store. There’s no comment box. There’s no telling how many other Florida papers may carry this story, online or off. That’s a lot of misinformation. Interestingly, the side-box on the article announes “More from News-Press.com:” and the subsequent link “Learn about bed bugs” directs readers to Bedbugger.com, without mentioning us by name. (And clearly, what you’re reading right now is not “More From News-Press.com” at all.)

Okay, let me start over:

Welcome, News-Press readers, and please look at our FAQs. Much of what was written in the article you just read was erroneous…

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