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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/04/08/what-do-you-wish-people-knew-about-bed-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-19096</link>
		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cliff17,

I can unequivocally assure you that bed bugs do NOT burrow under your skin.

Scabies mites do, however.  Are you sure your doctor was not talking about scabies -- the symptoms of bed bug bites are sometimes mistaken for scabies.  Scabies is treated with a body cream as you describe.

Your pest pro is right that 91% alcohol will kill bed bugs on contact.  However, you are extremely unlikely to be able to spray even a small percentage of your bed bugs directly.  You will not &quot;find them all.&quot;  I hope your pest management professional is using a variety of more serious treatments than this alcohol contact kill spray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cliff17,</p>
<p>I can unequivocally assure you that bed bugs do NOT burrow under your skin.</p>
<p>Scabies mites do, however.  Are you sure your doctor was not talking about scabies &#8212; the symptoms of bed bug bites are sometimes mistaken for scabies.  Scabies is treated with a body cream as you describe.</p>
<p>Your pest pro is right that 91% alcohol will kill bed bugs on contact.  However, you are extremely unlikely to be able to spray even a small percentage of your bed bugs directly.  You will not &#8220;find them all.&#8221;  I hope your pest management professional is using a variety of more serious treatments than this alcohol contact kill spray.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff17</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to throw water on a grease fire and stir the pot. However, earlier on this page I read where someone definitively said that &quot;bedbugs do not burrow under your skin&quot;. I sincerely hope this is true. However, if it&#039;s true that they do not, then there is still on awful lot to clear up about them, because my doctor told me they do. She even gave me a prescription for a body cream meant to do away with them. Clearly, a lot of misinformation is out there on one side or the other. My exterminator recommends rubbing alcohol; 91%. Dispensed via a simple spray bottle. This will definitely kill them. The problem of course, is finding them all.  -Cliff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to throw water on a grease fire and stir the pot. However, earlier on this page I read where someone definitively said that &#8220;bedbugs do not burrow under your skin&#8221;. I sincerely hope this is true. However, if it&#8217;s true that they do not, then there is still on awful lot to clear up about them, because my doctor told me they do. She even gave me a prescription for a body cream meant to do away with them. Clearly, a lot of misinformation is out there on one side or the other. My exterminator recommends rubbing alcohol; 91%. Dispensed via a simple spray bottle. This will definitely kill them. The problem of course, is finding them all.  -Cliff</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kitt,
Scabies is not difficult to treat.  Follow the doctor&#039;s instructions and if you have scabies, as it sounds like you may, then it should go away.  If not, please go to the doctor (or if you have already left the country, a local doctor).  Although most cases of scabies clear in one treatment (and should certainly improve), I have heard in some cases a second treatment--by a doctor--is necessary.  Doctors can also take skin scrapings to positively ID scabies.

Scabies is found worldwide and a doctor in any country can help you.  The important thing is to persist in seeing doctors until the problem is gone.

There is no way that scabies and bed bugs have mutated into a hybrid.  Bed bugs are insects, scabies are mites.  Besides, they are wildly different in size and behavior.  You may be being bitten by some other kind of mite and you absolutely need a doctor and perhaps eventually an entomologist to help (but the doctor will know if that is needed).

I know this is frustrating, but please do persist with the doctors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kitt,<br />
Scabies is not difficult to treat.  Follow the doctor&#8217;s instructions and if you have scabies, as it sounds like you may, then it should go away.  If not, please go to the doctor (or if you have already left the country, a local doctor).  Although most cases of scabies clear in one treatment (and should certainly improve), I have heard in some cases a second treatment&#8211;by a doctor&#8211;is necessary.  Doctors can also take skin scrapings to positively ID scabies.</p>
<p>Scabies is found worldwide and a doctor in any country can help you.  The important thing is to persist in seeing doctors until the problem is gone.</p>
<p>There is no way that scabies and bed bugs have mutated into a hybrid.  Bed bugs are insects, scabies are mites.  Besides, they are wildly different in size and behavior.  You may be being bitten by some other kind of mite and you absolutely need a doctor and perhaps eventually an entomologist to help (but the doctor will know if that is needed).</p>
<p>I know this is frustrating, but please do persist with the doctors.</p>
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		<title>By: hopelessnomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hopelessnomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry that your doctor was not more helpful.

Actually, I&#039;m sorry that I have not been more helpful to you, to be honest and that all the reasonable explanations I offered you were not useful to you.

If I may be frank, the sooner you start thinking in practical, problem-solving ways, and the sooner you move away from a persistent belief that you, and you alone, are afflicted with a strange, unique, hitherto unknown burrowing/hybrid bug--the characteristics of which are NOT based in fact or science--the sooner you will get better.

I know this is very hard to comprehend in your situation but I will repeat: a crawling sensation (or indeed any other kind of skin reaction) does not, does NOT equal a bug infestation that is unidentifiable.  These are normal, again, NORMAL responses that are caused by something real, including a real bedbug infestation where your skin is constantly reacting to current and previous bites or other known and perfectly understood biting pests, or a medical condition, or an allergic response to something in your environment--and you can investigate and find the cause of your troubles, with the assistance of professionals and scientists.   Further, if you continue to use and abuse pesticides in your environment and on your body, your problem will likely get worse.

If you persist in these various thoughts, the road to getting better will be difficult.  I hope that is not what you actually want.  I hope that you want and hope to be healthy and active and to have your life back.

My best advice is to continue to seek medical and professional advice (dermatologists, entomologists, pest control professionals) and to keep an open mind to the solutions, explanations and counsel that such people may offer.  

And, as far as the internet, there are a lot of scary sites out there that peddle fear, paranoia, and outright lies.  Please do not seek them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry that your doctor was not more helpful.</p>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;m sorry that I have not been more helpful to you, to be honest and that all the reasonable explanations I offered you were not useful to you.</p>
<p>If I may be frank, the sooner you start thinking in practical, problem-solving ways, and the sooner you move away from a persistent belief that you, and you alone, are afflicted with a strange, unique, hitherto unknown burrowing/hybrid bug&#8211;the characteristics of which are NOT based in fact or science&#8211;the sooner you will get better.</p>
<p>I know this is very hard to comprehend in your situation but I will repeat: a crawling sensation (or indeed any other kind of skin reaction) does not, does NOT equal a bug infestation that is unidentifiable.  These are normal, again, NORMAL responses that are caused by something real, including a real bedbug infestation where your skin is constantly reacting to current and previous bites or other known and perfectly understood biting pests, or a medical condition, or an allergic response to something in your environment&#8211;and you can investigate and find the cause of your troubles, with the assistance of professionals and scientists.   Further, if you continue to use and abuse pesticides in your environment and on your body, your problem will likely get worse.</p>
<p>If you persist in these various thoughts, the road to getting better will be difficult.  I hope that is not what you actually want.  I hope that you want and hope to be healthy and active and to have your life back.</p>
<p>My best advice is to continue to seek medical and professional advice (dermatologists, entomologists, pest control professionals) and to keep an open mind to the solutions, explanations and counsel that such people may offer.  </p>
<p>And, as far as the internet, there are a lot of scary sites out there that peddle fear, paranoia, and outright lies.  Please do not seek them.</p>
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		<title>By: kitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, is there a scabies blog that&#039;s as active as this one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, is there a scabies blog that&#8217;s as active as this one?</p>
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		<title>By: kitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks folks.  well, i went today and the results were, as i suspected, inconclusive.  he didn&#039;t even listen to the whole history.  (someday, someday...someone will listen to it all! )  i don&#039;t blame him.  it is rather meandering.  anyway, he got impatient after about 5 minutes of me trying to give him the 16 month play by play, and ultimately was just concerned with present symptoms.  which were...as stated...inconclusive.  it seems i either have bedbugs that act like scabies or scabies that act like bed bugs.  i *swear* they have mutated, and there is a weird hybrid bug out there that scientists don&#039;t even know about.  why?  because ultimately, the two contradictory traits that are consistent are:  1) the sensation of burrowing and of living on me and especially in the crevices of my body (a scabies-like trait).  2)  a very long lifespan in spite of lack of feedings (a bb trait).  

regarding the burrowing and living on me sensation, just today i was in the movies and my arms started flaming up like crazy (on the old bites that are already there, plus two little tiny new bites) while i was sitting in the dark watching the movie.  as soon as i left the theater this flameup ceased.  

so he&#039;s treating me for scabies, and gave me instructions of what to do, wash, vacuum, etc, like i don&#039;t know how to do that already....  i&#039;m still not sure what to do about my hosts.  he suggested not getting them worried until i see how this treatment effects things....

thanks for your good thoughts, hopelessnomo and nobugsonme!  i hope this is really the end of this nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks folks.  well, i went today and the results were, as i suspected, inconclusive.  he didn&#8217;t even listen to the whole history.  (someday, someday&#8230;someone will listen to it all! )  i don&#8217;t blame him.  it is rather meandering.  anyway, he got impatient after about 5 minutes of me trying to give him the 16 month play by play, and ultimately was just concerned with present symptoms.  which were&#8230;as stated&#8230;inconclusive.  it seems i either have bedbugs that act like scabies or scabies that act like bed bugs.  i *swear* they have mutated, and there is a weird hybrid bug out there that scientists don&#8217;t even know about.  why?  because ultimately, the two contradictory traits that are consistent are:  1) the sensation of burrowing and of living on me and especially in the crevices of my body (a scabies-like trait).  2)  a very long lifespan in spite of lack of feedings (a bb trait).  </p>
<p>regarding the burrowing and living on me sensation, just today i was in the movies and my arms started flaming up like crazy (on the old bites that are already there, plus two little tiny new bites) while i was sitting in the dark watching the movie.  as soon as i left the theater this flameup ceased.  </p>
<p>so he&#8217;s treating me for scabies, and gave me instructions of what to do, wash, vacuum, etc, like i don&#8217;t know how to do that already&#8230;.  i&#8217;m still not sure what to do about my hosts.  he suggested not getting them worried until i see how this treatment effects things&#8230;.</p>
<p>thanks for your good thoughts, hopelessnomo and nobugsonme!  i hope this is really the end of this nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck, kitt!</description>
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		<title>By: hopelessnomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hopelessnomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s good, kitt.  Make sure you give a complete history, include all the information you told us.  I&#039;ll think good thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s good, kitt.  Make sure you give a complete history, include all the information you told us.  I&#8217;ll think good thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: kitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay, going to the doctor tomorrow.</description>
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