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		<title>By: Sick of BB's</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/30/faqde/comment-page-2/#comment-19336</link>
		<dc:creator>Sick of BB's</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the process of moving right now from an apartment that was profressionally treated. The PCO said they saw no traces of them when he came in to do his second treatment. I&#039;m not going to take this as gospel

I have been investigating a lot about these things and want to try and prevent another infestation. I don&#039;t want to assume they have been eradicated, but rather prerpare that a couple are going to tag along. Obviously as with anything, there are no guarantees with any method of treatment for these suckers. But without an infestation, what is the likelihood some sort of DE will be effective in preventing a further spread? For the record, I&#039;m moving out of an apartment into the basement suite of a house. It&#039;s been just under a month since the first treatment, and a little over a week since the second shot. Other than my clothes sitting in plastic bags in storage since prior to the first application, I have moved very little... most of it is still sitting in the apartment. Almost all of the furniture was treated by the PCO.

Also, the home I&#039;m moving in to has birds. What I&#039;ve read about DE, it sounds like added precautions should be taken for their safety at the very least during application. If DE isn&#039;t the ideal for this kind of situation, is there something else I should be looking at? Again, I&#039;m not trying to treat an infestation at this point, just trying to prevent one in the event that a couple of these suckers tagged along for the ride. It seems like there&#039;s too much information and it&#039;s hard to decide what to believe. Makes one second guess their efforts... of which there have been a lot. That&#039;s probably the most stressful part of it... thinking you&#039;ve done everything you can only to find out you haven&#039;t. The company who did the treatment didn&#039;t recommend much more than laundering clothes and emptying drawers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the process of moving right now from an apartment that was profressionally treated. The PCO said they saw no traces of them when he came in to do his second treatment. I&#8217;m not going to take this as gospel</p>
<p>I have been investigating a lot about these things and want to try and prevent another infestation. I don&#8217;t want to assume they have been eradicated, but rather prerpare that a couple are going to tag along. Obviously as with anything, there are no guarantees with any method of treatment for these suckers. But without an infestation, what is the likelihood some sort of DE will be effective in preventing a further spread? For the record, I&#8217;m moving out of an apartment into the basement suite of a house. It&#8217;s been just under a month since the first treatment, and a little over a week since the second shot. Other than my clothes sitting in plastic bags in storage since prior to the first application, I have moved very little&#8230; most of it is still sitting in the apartment. Almost all of the furniture was treated by the PCO.</p>
<p>Also, the home I&#8217;m moving in to has birds. What I&#8217;ve read about DE, it sounds like added precautions should be taken for their safety at the very least during application. If DE isn&#8217;t the ideal for this kind of situation, is there something else I should be looking at? Again, I&#8217;m not trying to treat an infestation at this point, just trying to prevent one in the event that a couple of these suckers tagged along for the ride. It seems like there&#8217;s too much information and it&#8217;s hard to decide what to believe. Makes one second guess their efforts&#8230; of which there have been a lot. That&#8217;s probably the most stressful part of it&#8230; thinking you&#8217;ve done everything you can only to find out you haven&#8217;t. The company who did the treatment didn&#8217;t recommend much more than laundering clothes and emptying drawers.</p>
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		<title>By: shaye</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/30/faqde/comment-page-2/#comment-19039</link>
		<dc:creator>shaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if bed bugs will bite through your clothing? Or the &quot;babies&quot;? My daughter got bitten on her tail and I can&#039;t for the life of me figure out how that could have happened. Unless they can bite through the gaps in the fabric. ?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if bed bugs will bite through your clothing? Or the &#8220;babies&#8221;? My daughter got bitten on her tail and I can&#8217;t for the life of me figure out how that could have happened. Unless they can bite through the gaps in the fabric. ?????</p>
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		<title>By: shaye</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/30/faqde/comment-page-2/#comment-19038</link>
		<dc:creator>shaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mom&#039;s apt bldg became infested and sure enough we ended up with them here. I have searched everything, main infestation was in our bedroom and a few had just recently found their way to our daughter&#039;s bedroom since she is always getting in and out of our bed at night. My husband was laid off from work for months so we are unable to afford the $2100 pco wants for treating our 3 bedroom home. I bagged and washed and threw out soo many things. I have been trying to treat myself and its not easy! I began by spraying the house with this spray from lowes made by bayer that does work so far any way. I have applied de to our house using a baby powder bottle to make the dust clouds (wearing protective mask) and continue to spray our house every week, which may be too often? Any ways, every time I thought they were gone, someone would get bitten again. And then I figured out why....they are in my suv! Just wanted people to be aware that they should check their cars too if they have them in their home. Now I know why we go weeks with no bites then wam bite! Sprayed my suv a good spray and found them dead the next day. Vacuumed it and will now be adding it to my weekly spraying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mom&#8217;s apt bldg became infested and sure enough we ended up with them here. I have searched everything, main infestation was in our bedroom and a few had just recently found their way to our daughter&#8217;s bedroom since she is always getting in and out of our bed at night. My husband was laid off from work for months so we are unable to afford the $2100 pco wants for treating our 3 bedroom home. I bagged and washed and threw out soo many things. I have been trying to treat myself and its not easy! I began by spraying the house with this spray from lowes made by bayer that does work so far any way. I have applied de to our house using a baby powder bottle to make the dust clouds (wearing protective mask) and continue to spray our house every week, which may be too often? Any ways, every time I thought they were gone, someone would get bitten again. And then I figured out why&#8230;.they are in my suv! Just wanted people to be aware that they should check their cars too if they have them in their home. Now I know why we go weeks with no bites then wam bite! Sprayed my suv a good spray and found them dead the next day. Vacuumed it and will now be adding it to my weekly spraying.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/30/faqde/comment-page-2/#comment-18874</link>
		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Added for clarity:

&quot;Since you should not be inhaling DE, you don’t want it somewhere it will be disturbed. Similarly, putting it on soft furnishings like mattresses and sofas seems like a dangerous idea. Did you ever sit on a dusty sofa? You do not want DE in your lungs, not even freshwater DE.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Added for clarity:</p>
<p>&#8220;Since you should not be inhaling DE, you don’t want it somewhere it will be disturbed. Similarly, putting it on soft furnishings like mattresses and sofas seems like a dangerous idea. Did you ever sit on a dusty sofa? You do not want DE in your lungs, not even freshwater DE.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: timmyg</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/30/faqde/comment-page-2/#comment-18265</link>
		<dc:creator>timmyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobugs -- I have applied a fair amount of DE all along the edges of my bedroom and bathroom wall (where I&#039;ve seen BB in the past, and because my neighbors have them*), and even a bit on the jar tops that my vaseline-covered frame wheels sit on.

Is that too much?

[*one says they&#039;re calling an exterminator, the others seem to have their heads in the sand]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobugs &#8212; I have applied a fair amount of DE all along the edges of my bedroom and bathroom wall (where I&#8217;ve seen BB in the past, and because my neighbors have them*), and even a bit on the jar tops that my vaseline-covered frame wheels sit on.</p>
<p>Is that too much?</p>
<p>[*one says they're calling an exterminator, the others seem to have their heads in the sand]</p>
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		<title>By: Finally, researchers on the efficacy of dusts — New York vs Bed Bugs</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/30/faqde/comment-page-2/#comment-16050</link>
		<dc:creator>Finally, researchers on the efficacy of dusts — New York vs Bed Bugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 01:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] right kind (labeled for pest control) can cause respiratory problems if applied incorrectly—the bedbugger faq on DE has safety precautions suggestions. Education is clearly needed but as always the problem of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/30/faqde/comment-page-2/#comment-15952</link>
		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;
Update (5/2009):&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2009/05/18/the-most-useful-application-of-the-bed-bug-alarm-pheromone-may-be-to-cause-dispersal/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A new post on New York vs. Bed Bugs&lt;/a&gt; today examines the following study:

 Journal of Medical Entomology 46(3):572-579. 2009
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1603/033.046.0323&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;doi: 10.1603/033.046.0323&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Addition of Alarm Pheromone Components Improves the Effectiveness of Desiccant Dusts Against Cimex lectularius
&lt;/em&gt;
Joshua B. Benoit, Seth A. Phillips, Travis J. Croxall, Brady S. Christensen, Jay A. Yoder, and David L. Denlinger.

This article notes that 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The efficacy of diatomaceous earth seems to depend somewhat on the formulation; sometimes it works and sometimes it does not (Allan and Patrican 1994). Resistance also seems to be an issue with diatomaceous earth (Korunic and Ormesher 2000, Rigaux et al. 2001). Previous studies concluded that Dri-die seems to be superior to diatomaceous earths (Allan and Patrican 1994, Appel et al. 1999), and that is what we observed in this study during short-term exposure. Two key points that may alter the effectiveness of Dri-die and DE are the duration of bed bug exposure and the residual effects. Indeed, future studies are needed to test these two aspects for C. lectularius.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2009/05/18/the-most-useful-application-of-the-bed-bug-alarm-pheromone-may-be-to-cause-dispersal/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Like Renee,&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The only thing I did know was, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not, clearly, but I thought the problem was with application and the difficulty of ensuring exposure, not resistance. Resistance never crossed my mind. In fact, I’m pretty sure I’ve heard “bed bugs cannot develop resistance to DE” more than once.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is important to take note of this, and consider that it may account for why DE does not always work for people (even if they apply it properly, even if bed bugs walk over it, even if they allow sufficient time).
&lt;strong&gt;
I am re-opening comments on this FAQ, due to this additional information.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><br />
Update (5/2009):</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2009/05/18/the-most-useful-application-of-the-bed-bug-alarm-pheromone-may-be-to-cause-dispersal/" rel="nofollow">A new post on New York vs. Bed Bugs</a> today examines the following study:</p>
<p> Journal of Medical Entomology 46(3):572-579. 2009<br />
<a href="http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1603/033.046.0323" rel="nofollow">doi: 10.1603/033.046.0323</a><br />
<em>Addition of Alarm Pheromone Components Improves the Effectiveness of Desiccant Dusts Against Cimex lectularius<br />
</em><br />
Joshua B. Benoit, Seth A. Phillips, Travis J. Croxall, Brady S. Christensen, Jay A. Yoder, and David L. Denlinger.</p>
<p>This article notes that </p>
<blockquote><p>The efficacy of diatomaceous earth seems to depend somewhat on the formulation; sometimes it works and sometimes it does not (Allan and Patrican 1994). Resistance also seems to be an issue with diatomaceous earth (Korunic and Ormesher 2000, Rigaux et al. 2001). Previous studies concluded that Dri-die seems to be superior to diatomaceous earths (Allan and Patrican 1994, Appel et al. 1999), and that is what we observed in this study during short-term exposure. Two key points that may alter the effectiveness of Dri-die and DE are the duration of bed bug exposure and the residual effects. Indeed, future studies are needed to test these two aspects for C. lectularius.
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://newyorkvsbedbugs.org/2009/05/18/the-most-useful-application-of-the-bed-bug-alarm-pheromone-may-be-to-cause-dispersal/" rel="nofollow">Like Renee,</a> </p>
<blockquote><p>
The only thing I did know was, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not, clearly, but I thought the problem was with application and the difficulty of ensuring exposure, not resistance. Resistance never crossed my mind. In fact, I’m pretty sure I’ve heard “bed bugs cannot develop resistance to DE” more than once.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is important to take note of this, and consider that it may account for why DE does not always work for people (even if they apply it properly, even if bed bugs walk over it, even if they allow sufficient time).<br />
<strong><br />
I am re-opening comments on this FAQ, due to this additional information.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: dusted in Florida</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/30/faqde/comment-page-2/#comment-15544</link>
		<dc:creator>dusted in Florida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used DE in all of our bedrooms and it seems to have worked.  The first thing I did was dust the entire room and all of it&#039;s contents.  I let it sit for @ a week before disturbing and cleaning.  By the 3rd bedroom I was using a Shop Vac (reversed)to blow the DE into the room - (need to wear a respirator and goggles)this allowed me to reach the ceiling and under everything then every item - including the carpet was either cleaned/steamed or tossed.  Did not want to risk them dropping off in the rest of the house so we took everything out the windows. We used a paintbrush to dust the mattress &amp; box springs before placing into aller-zip covers, also placed a barrier of DE around the bedroom - under baseboards and on top - electric outlets, etc and coated all remaining furniture with DE.  Next step is to have my husband use the shop vac to blow the DE into the attic.  Seems to have worked just wanted to see if you have any further suggestions.

I have seen several post regarding DE damaging vacuum cleaners - use a SHOP VAC -we purchased a small one for under 60$ and the suction is much greater than you will get with a regular vac.  Just make sure to get the filter bags so that you can throw out the bugs and eggs that you vacuum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used DE in all of our bedrooms and it seems to have worked.  The first thing I did was dust the entire room and all of it&#8217;s contents.  I let it sit for @ a week before disturbing and cleaning.  By the 3rd bedroom I was using a Shop Vac (reversed)to blow the DE into the room &#8211; (need to wear a respirator and goggles)this allowed me to reach the ceiling and under everything then every item &#8211; including the carpet was either cleaned/steamed or tossed.  Did not want to risk them dropping off in the rest of the house so we took everything out the windows. We used a paintbrush to dust the mattress &amp; box springs before placing into aller-zip covers, also placed a barrier of DE around the bedroom &#8211; under baseboards and on top &#8211; electric outlets, etc and coated all remaining furniture with DE.  Next step is to have my husband use the shop vac to blow the DE into the attic.  Seems to have worked just wanted to see if you have any further suggestions.</p>
<p>I have seen several post regarding DE damaging vacuum cleaners &#8211; use a SHOP VAC -we purchased a small one for under 60$ and the suction is much greater than you will get with a regular vac.  Just make sure to get the filter bags so that you can throw out the bugs and eggs that you vacuum.</p>
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		<title>By: How do YOU prepare a new home for move-in? &#171; ONE GRAND HOME</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/30/faqde/comment-page-2/#comment-15465</link>
		<dc:creator>How do YOU prepare a new home for move-in? &#171; ONE GRAND HOME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to prevent the entry of insects &#8211;Dust all cracks that can&#8217;t be sealed with a mixture of diatomaceous earth (to kill any bedbugs), boric acid (to kill roaches) and red pepper (to repel ants). I&#8217;ve [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Lehrer on bed bugs in New York City : Got bed bugs? Bedbugger.com</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/30/faqde/comment-page-2/#comment-14979</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Lehrer on bed bugs in New York City : Got bed bugs? Bedbugger.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 04:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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