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		<title>By: proactive</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/26/gentrol-not-just-ineffective-may-make-bed-bugs-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-14294</link>
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		<description>Thank you very much for this information!</description>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/26/gentrol-not-just-ineffective-may-make-bed-bugs-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-13338</link>
		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 06:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>upstate,

A lot of PCOs did not abandon Gentrol based on the information we referred to above, and I don&#039;t think its use is going to necessarily hinder your treatment.  We don&#039;t have more information, I am afraid.

Based on the experiments of a few folks who have been bitten knowingly (under lab conditions), though I stress this is by no means a controlled study, there is no necessary and definite correlation between bite size and bed bug life stage.  Bites can differ depending on the person, part of the person&#039;a body, or time of day.  Or, goodness knows, many other mysterious factors.  

It is also apparent that some people&#039;s bite reactions change over time (they may go from nothing to a reaction, and then back to almost nothing again over a period of time).

If you were treated twice, with the last visit two weeks ago, and apparent bites have just reappeared, I would assume you need more treatment.  Please come to the forums if you want more support or suggestions:

http://bedbugger.com/forum/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>upstate,</p>
<p>A lot of PCOs did not abandon Gentrol based on the information we referred to above, and I don&#8217;t think its use is going to necessarily hinder your treatment.  We don&#8217;t have more information, I am afraid.</p>
<p>Based on the experiments of a few folks who have been bitten knowingly (under lab conditions), though I stress this is by no means a controlled study, there is no necessary and definite correlation between bite size and bed bug life stage.  Bites can differ depending on the person, part of the person&#8217;a body, or time of day.  Or, goodness knows, many other mysterious factors.  </p>
<p>It is also apparent that some people&#8217;s bite reactions change over time (they may go from nothing to a reaction, and then back to almost nothing again over a period of time).</p>
<p>If you were treated twice, with the last visit two weeks ago, and apparent bites have just reappeared, I would assume you need more treatment.  Please come to the forums if you want more support or suggestions:</p>
<p><a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/" rel="nofollow">http://bedbugger.com/forum/</a></p>
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		<title>By: upstate</title>
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		<dc:creator>upstate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all.  My POC has used Gentrol along with a residual pesticide -- he treated twice, and each time the incidents of bites disappeared.  After the first spray, though, in about 2 weeks, I discovered bites again. 

This is the first that I&#039;ve heard that Gentrol could make the problem worse!!!  Has this study finally been published?  Is there any more news since this information came out at the end of 2007?  

My original bites were large, very itchy, and have left lasting bumps and scars.  I am now getting small bumps on my wrists and around my neck.  Honestly, they aren&#039;t as itchy, though they have lasted for over a week at this point and are more the size of small pimples rather than swollen.  Maybe these are nymph bites?  Or do nymph and adult bites not differ?  In any case, I am of course paranoid now that the gentrol has just made things worse, with a generation of baby-boomers now infesting the cracks in my wall, the carpet, and my bed frame... 

Only thing is, I still haven&#039;t seen any since the spraying... Am I going crazy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all.  My POC has used Gentrol along with a residual pesticide &#8212; he treated twice, and each time the incidents of bites disappeared.  After the first spray, though, in about 2 weeks, I discovered bites again. </p>
<p>This is the first that I&#8217;ve heard that Gentrol could make the problem worse!!!  Has this study finally been published?  Is there any more news since this information came out at the end of 2007?  </p>
<p>My original bites were large, very itchy, and have left lasting bumps and scars.  I am now getting small bumps on my wrists and around my neck.  Honestly, they aren&#8217;t as itchy, though they have lasted for over a week at this point and are more the size of small pimples rather than swollen.  Maybe these are nymph bites?  Or do nymph and adult bites not differ?  In any case, I am of course paranoid now that the gentrol has just made things worse, with a generation of baby-boomers now infesting the cracks in my wall, the carpet, and my bed frame&#8230; </p>
<p>Only thing is, I still haven&#8217;t seen any since the spraying&#8230; Am I going crazy?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An IGR is effective when used in conjuction with an adulticide and the nessasary steps taken.

not a silver bullet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An IGR is effective when used in conjuction with an adulticide and the nessasary steps taken.</p>
<p>not a silver bullet</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/26/gentrol-not-just-ineffective-may-make-bed-bugs-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-10819</link>
		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lethal for bed bugs, Andy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lethal for bed bugs, Andy?</p>
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		<title>By: ANDY</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/26/gentrol-not-just-ineffective-may-make-bed-bugs-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-10818</link>
		<dc:creator>ANDY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand corrected it is called cy kick cs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand corrected it is called cy kick cs</p>
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		<title>By: ANDY</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/26/gentrol-not-just-ineffective-may-make-bed-bugs-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-10817</link>
		<dc:creator>ANDY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOES ANYONE KNOW IF SIDEKICK CS IS LEATHEL OR IS IT JUST ANOTHER USLESS PESTICIDE LIKE THEY ALL ARE NOW ADAYS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOES ANYONE KNOW IF SIDEKICK CS IS LEATHEL OR IS IT JUST ANOTHER USLESS PESTICIDE LIKE THEY ALL ARE NOW ADAYS?</p>
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		<title>By: hopelessnomo</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/26/gentrol-not-just-ineffective-may-make-bed-bugs-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-10813</link>
		<dc:creator>hopelessnomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And apparently, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pctonline.com/news/news.asp?ID=6145&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;methoprene is promising&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Work at Sheffield University by Richard Naylor using the juvenile hormone analogue (S)-methoprene had produced good results. Better known for its activity with Pharaoh ants, this IGR offers a way forward. Recognizing the length of time it requires to achieve control, its use combined with a residual spray, such as bendiocarb, proved a talking point, especially as the IGR may heighten bed bug susceptibility to the conventional insecticide.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And apparently, <a href="http://www.pctonline.com/news/news.asp?ID=6145" rel="nofollow">methoprene is promising</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Work at Sheffield University by Richard Naylor using the juvenile hormone analogue (S)-methoprene had produced good results. Better known for its activity with Pharaoh ants, this IGR offers a way forward. Recognizing the length of time it requires to achieve control, its use combined with a residual spray, such as bendiocarb, proved a talking point, especially as the IGR may heighten bed bug susceptibility to the conventional insecticide.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: hopelessnomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hopelessnomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting question, Entomologuy, sent me looking.  I found references here to someone whose infestation was treated, in part, with Starycide (triflumuron) in a European country and it seems that a triflumuron product, a dust, was mentioned in a draft of the first edition of the Australian CoP, so it&#039;s possible they&#039;re used for bedbugs in other countries?

I&#039;m not sure I understand the fine distinctions between the chitin inhibitors and juvenile analogs, so I hope someone will elaborate.  And, is there an issue with bedbugs not &quot;sharing&quot; because they&#039;re not properly social insects or does it not matter?

Also, just fyi, there&#039;s a new study on methoprene being presented at ICUP by Richard Naylor: http://www.icup2008.com/prel_progr.htm  (We know Naylor here because of his laundry temperature experiments.)  Anyway, I thought methoprene (but not hydroprene; they&#039;re both juvenoids I just learned) was found effective against bedbugs in the 70s. I hope this new study sheds more light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question, Entomologuy, sent me looking.  I found references here to someone whose infestation was treated, in part, with Starycide (triflumuron) in a European country and it seems that a triflumuron product, a dust, was mentioned in a draft of the first edition of the Australian CoP, so it&#8217;s possible they&#8217;re used for bedbugs in other countries?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I understand the fine distinctions between the chitin inhibitors and juvenile analogs, so I hope someone will elaborate.  And, is there an issue with bedbugs not &#8220;sharing&#8221; because they&#8217;re not properly social insects or does it not matter?</p>
<p>Also, just fyi, there&#8217;s a new study on methoprene being presented at ICUP by Richard Naylor: <a href="http://www.icup2008.com/prel_progr.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.icup2008.com/prel_progr.htm</a>  (We know Naylor here because of his laundry temperature experiments.)  Anyway, I thought methoprene (but not hydroprene; they&#8217;re both juvenoids I just learned) was found effective against bedbugs in the 70s. I hope this new study sheds more light.</p>
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		<title>By: Entomologuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entomologuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pyriproxifen has shown some real promise.  I&#039;ve heard the same disappointing news regarding Gentrol IGR from fellow PCOs at a seminar in Portland just a few months ago, and Michael F. Potter, one of the speakers, covered resistance issues as well (though I don&#039;t remember if he discussed IGRs or just insecticides).

Gentrol doesn&#039;t prevent nymphs from reaching the adult stage, it just inteferes with their development so that when nymphs reach the adult stage, they are not reproductively viable.  Hence the distortions in the exoskeleton.

I would like to know if any research has been done regarding the use of chitin inhibitors on bedbugs.  Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pyriproxifen has shown some real promise.  I&#8217;ve heard the same disappointing news regarding Gentrol IGR from fellow PCOs at a seminar in Portland just a few months ago, and Michael F. Potter, one of the speakers, covered resistance issues as well (though I don&#8217;t remember if he discussed IGRs or just insecticides).</p>
<p>Gentrol doesn&#8217;t prevent nymphs from reaching the adult stage, it just inteferes with their development so that when nymphs reach the adult stage, they are not reproductively viable.  Hence the distortions in the exoskeleton.</p>
<p>I would like to know if any research has been done regarding the use of chitin inhibitors on bedbugs.  Anyone?</p>
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