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		<title>By: abdi</title>
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		<dc:creator>abdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey everyoen u are not alone we got em too this si becoming a serious problem in north america and especially where i live in edmonton ab canada we have sprayed 5 times! already adn counting we have anohter spray due this week man i hate these things fuck bed bugs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey everyoen u are not alone we got em too this si becoming a serious problem in north america and especially where i live in edmonton ab canada we have sprayed 5 times! already adn counting we have anohter spray due this week man i hate these things fuck bed bugs</p>
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		<title>By: Bedbuggery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bedbuggery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If bed bugs are still present in the home, they should also seek professional medical advice about whether it is safe for them to return home.&quot;

I agree entirely with nobugsonme on this matter and am not suggesting that someone forego sound medical advice for my own. 

That being said I have found that I have a blood infection that my doctor believes may be pacific lyme&#039;s disease (a less common strain that occurs in the pacific northwest) which was the likely cause of my ongoing allergic attacks after removal from the bugs.

I will be posting results from my western blot test in this thread:http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/i-dont-believe-that-bedbugs-dont-carry-disease.

Also, this type of infection can cause chronic urticaria, which would behave very much like &quot;phantom bites&quot; if anyone develops symptoms like  sore joints or a fever following bedbug exposure I would recommend speaking with a doctor about a blood test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If bed bugs are still present in the home, they should also seek professional medical advice about whether it is safe for them to return home.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree entirely with nobugsonme on this matter and am not suggesting that someone forego sound medical advice for my own. </p>
<p>That being said I have found that I have a blood infection that my doctor believes may be pacific lyme&#8217;s disease (a less common strain that occurs in the pacific northwest) which was the likely cause of my ongoing allergic attacks after removal from the bugs.</p>
<p>I will be posting results from my western blot test in this thread:http://bedbugger.com/forum/topic/i-dont-believe-that-bedbugs-dont-carry-disease.</p>
<p>Also, this type of infection can cause chronic urticaria, which would behave very much like &#8220;phantom bites&#8221; if anyone develops symptoms like  sore joints or a fever following bedbug exposure I would recommend speaking with a doctor about a blood test.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anyone else who has experienced potential asphyxiation or respiratory failure as result of bedbugs- don’t listen to conventional advice, be prepared with antihistamines for possible resurgence.&quot;

Anyone who has experienced a life-threatening reaction to bed bugs should definitely get a good doctor&#039;s advice about being prepared for such a thing to happen again.

If bed bugs are still present in the home, they should also seek professional medical advice about whether it is safe for them to return home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anyone else who has experienced potential asphyxiation or respiratory failure as result of bedbugs- don’t listen to conventional advice, be prepared with antihistamines for possible resurgence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone who has experienced a life-threatening reaction to bed bugs should definitely get a good doctor&#8217;s advice about being prepared for such a thing to happen again.</p>
<p>If bed bugs are still present in the home, they should also seek professional medical advice about whether it is safe for them to return home.</p>
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		<title>By: Bedbuggery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bedbuggery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>upon seeing a doctor who has no experience w/ BB&#039;s, was told that an allergic response cannot happen (or is not known) unless the antigens or offending proteins are present. Was also told that following an allergic response one can have a buildup of histamine et. al that will make a person more sensitive in the presence of other possible allergens. This means that because of BB bite&#039;s people may develop a sensitivity to other things if I am to understand properly.  
Anyone else who has experienced potential asphyxiation or respiratory failure as result of bedbugs- don&#039;t listen to conventional advice, be prepared with antihistamines for possible resurgence. Maybe this is a subject for a valuable new  thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>upon seeing a doctor who has no experience w/ BB&#8217;s, was told that an allergic response cannot happen (or is not known) unless the antigens or offending proteins are present. Was also told that following an allergic response one can have a buildup of histamine et. al that will make a person more sensitive in the presence of other possible allergens. This means that because of BB bite&#8217;s people may develop a sensitivity to other things if I am to understand properly.<br />
Anyone else who has experienced potential asphyxiation or respiratory failure as result of bedbugs- don&#8217;t listen to conventional advice, be prepared with antihistamines for possible resurgence. Maybe this is a subject for a valuable new  thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Bedbuggery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bedbuggery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK here&#039;s an update on my situation w/ bedbugs and allergies- I believe it&#039;s been sometime since I have been bit. The past week I have been sleeping in a trailor that I know to be &#039;clean&#039; and I don&#039;t bring shoes, bags, or anything else into this sleaping space. Yet I&#039;ve been having severe allergic reactions repeatedly that seem to onset in the evenings and behave eratically w/ out warning. I&#039;m wondering if I am going through some kind systemic illness or if the bug-Antigen protiens are continually being worked out of my skin and I&#039;m reacting. If this is the case, then it would be quite possible that these protiens are hanging around in all of our skins causing subsequent Urticaria/ phantom bites every time we aggrevate them or our bodies attemp to metabolize them. Will be going to see the doctor and keep everyone posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK here&#8217;s an update on my situation w/ bedbugs and allergies- I believe it&#8217;s been sometime since I have been bit. The past week I have been sleeping in a trailor that I know to be &#8216;clean&#8217; and I don&#8217;t bring shoes, bags, or anything else into this sleaping space. Yet I&#8217;ve been having severe allergic reactions repeatedly that seem to onset in the evenings and behave eratically w/ out warning. I&#8217;m wondering if I am going through some kind systemic illness or if the bug-Antigen protiens are continually being worked out of my skin and I&#8217;m reacting. If this is the case, then it would be quite possible that these protiens are hanging around in all of our skins causing subsequent Urticaria/ phantom bites every time we aggrevate them or our bodies attemp to metabolize them. Will be going to see the doctor and keep everyone posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Bedbuggery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bedbuggery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  seem to have experienced both the phantom &quot;bites&quot; as well as the real bites intermittenly. I think that there are many different things going on here, including rehashing old bites, both adult and nymph bites, as well as urticaria. I actually discovered urticaria before I knew I had bugs. One thing about it is that you can actually create welts or &#039;wheels&#039; by scratching or even brushing against your skin. It also makes my skin feel prickley like a bunch of little pinprick, which makes me itchy and then if I scratch I can actually produce welts that look like bites in a row that follow my scratching paths. There is one characteristic about being bit that makes me unique which is that I have had allergic reactions. one of the first times I was bit by adults right on the jugular and I woke up with symptoms of anaphylaxis, and went to the bathroom and vomited followed by weekness, fever, and was sick with what I concluded was the result of brain-swelling all of the next day.  I never went to a doctor because I&#039;m poor, and it took me about 6mos. to find a bug suctioned to my leg and I finally figured out what my problem was. I thought I had tuberculoses or mold allergies. SO when I&#039;m bit I tend to know it, and when it&#039;s urticaria or old bites, I don&#039;t feel like death. I know that I still have bugs and am working on it, but i also have been experiencing phantom bites. Also, my allergy sensitivities tend to build up a tolerance like drugs, If I go a long time w/ out being bit, I tend to get pretty sick the next time it happens even if it&#039;s only a couple of small bites. I hope that you can all use this info, and also find comfort in the fact that although bed bugs suck (literally) and I affetionally refer to them as a stuff STD or possesion transmitted  infestation (PTI)  atleast you can find comfort in the fact that it has never been life threatening, and that youhave money for a doctor, let alone pest control. I am using silicon dioxide mixed with pyrethrins, a product called &quot;results&quot; bug powder. seems to have been helping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  seem to have experienced both the phantom &#8220;bites&#8221; as well as the real bites intermittenly. I think that there are many different things going on here, including rehashing old bites, both adult and nymph bites, as well as urticaria. I actually discovered urticaria before I knew I had bugs. One thing about it is that you can actually create welts or &#8216;wheels&#8217; by scratching or even brushing against your skin. It also makes my skin feel prickley like a bunch of little pinprick, which makes me itchy and then if I scratch I can actually produce welts that look like bites in a row that follow my scratching paths. There is one characteristic about being bit that makes me unique which is that I have had allergic reactions. one of the first times I was bit by adults right on the jugular and I woke up with symptoms of anaphylaxis, and went to the bathroom and vomited followed by weekness, fever, and was sick with what I concluded was the result of brain-swelling all of the next day.  I never went to a doctor because I&#8217;m poor, and it took me about 6mos. to find a bug suctioned to my leg and I finally figured out what my problem was. I thought I had tuberculoses or mold allergies. SO when I&#8217;m bit I tend to know it, and when it&#8217;s urticaria or old bites, I don&#8217;t feel like death. I know that I still have bugs and am working on it, but i also have been experiencing phantom bites. Also, my allergy sensitivities tend to build up a tolerance like drugs, If I go a long time w/ out being bit, I tend to get pretty sick the next time it happens even if it&#8217;s only a couple of small bites. I hope that you can all use this info, and also find comfort in the fact that although bed bugs suck (literally) and I affetionally refer to them as a stuff STD or possesion transmitted  infestation (PTI)  atleast you can find comfort in the fact that it has never been life threatening, and that youhave money for a doctor, let alone pest control. I am using silicon dioxide mixed with pyrethrins, a product called &#8220;results&#8221; bug powder. seems to have been helping.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kihun, 

Good pest control pros can find and get rid of bird mites.  (I would choose a company big enough to have a consulting entomologist, so they can figure out what kind of mites you have.)  

Bird mites do sound quite awful but we are told they are treatable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kihun, </p>
<p>Good pest control pros can find and get rid of bird mites.  (I would choose a company big enough to have a consulting entomologist, so they can figure out what kind of mites you have.)  </p>
<p>Bird mites do sound quite awful but we are told they are treatable.</p>
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		<title>By: Kihun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kihun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those feeling invisible bites and have bite marks, what you may be experience are biting mites, with the common ones being bird mites and rat mites.  They are virtually microscopic and may appear as a spec if that so they are very hard to find.  A person&#039;s home and car can be easily infested and they are extremely hard to get rid of.  You&#039;ll fee itchy crawling sensations, as well as pin-prick stings from time to time.  You also may notice ppl around you starting to itch alot when they are around you.  Everyone knows about bedbugs and dust mites but not too much about biting mites.  For more info about these relatively unknown critters, check out www.birdmites.org.  Infestations will truly drive ppl insane!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those feeling invisible bites and have bite marks, what you may be experience are biting mites, with the common ones being bird mites and rat mites.  They are virtually microscopic and may appear as a spec if that so they are very hard to find.  A person&#8217;s home and car can be easily infested and they are extremely hard to get rid of.  You&#8217;ll fee itchy crawling sensations, as well as pin-prick stings from time to time.  You also may notice ppl around you starting to itch alot when they are around you.  Everyone knows about bedbugs and dust mites but not too much about biting mites.  For more info about these relatively unknown critters, check out <a href="http://www.birdmites.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.birdmites.org</a>.  Infestations will truly drive ppl insane!</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desiree,

Kelly left her comment over 16 months ago.  I recommend asking in the forums for recommendations:

http://bedbugger.com/forum/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desiree,</p>
<p>Kelly left her comment over 16 months ago.  I recommend asking in the forums for recommendations:</p>
<p><a href="http://bedbugger.com/forum/" rel="nofollow">http://bedbugger.com/forum/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Desiree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desiree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly:

I see that you&#039;re in Santa Monica, Ca.  I&#039;m in Long Beach.  I can&#039;t find a PCO that seems to know what they are dealing with and feel completely alone with this problem.  May I ask which PCO you are using?  I&#039;m losing my mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly:</p>
<p>I see that you&#8217;re in Santa Monica, Ca.  I&#8217;m in Long Beach.  I can&#8217;t find a PCO that seems to know what they are dealing with and feel completely alone with this problem.  May I ask which PCO you are using?  I&#8217;m losing my mind!</p>
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