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	<title>Comments on: an honest PCO, a clever move</title>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/01/an-honest-pco-a-clever-move/#comment-6364</link>
		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI James,
This is probably the post you were thinking of?  I am pretty skeptical about freezing or heating using mother nature.  In the case mentioned above, the person reported success.  Of course, we did not get a three-month follow-up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI James,<br />
This is probably the post you were thinking of?  I am pretty skeptical about freezing or heating using mother nature.  In the case mentioned above, the person reported success.  Of course, we did not get a three-month follow-up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Buggles</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/01/an-honest-pco-a-clever-move/#comment-6363</link>
		<dc:creator>James Buggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said, I can't speak to this issue. Just pointing out that it was damn cold last winter. You did once write about someone who tried this manuever in New York. You were more optimistic back then. I agree it doesn't seem wise. Vikane is the way to go if cost effective. Otherwise, discard and start over. Or perhaps pay for your own PCO and then move. That might be the cheapest solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, I can&#8217;t speak to this issue. Just pointing out that it was damn cold last winter. You did once write about someone who tried this manuever in New York. You were more optimistic back then. I agree it doesn&#8217;t seem wise. Vikane is the way to go if cost effective. Otherwise, discard and start over. Or perhaps pay for your own PCO and then move. That might be the cheapest solution.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/01/an-honest-pco-a-clever-move/#comment-6361</link>
		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I know is &lt;a href="http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/17/faq-where-can-i-read-about-bed-bug-lawsuits-can-you-help-me-find-a-lawyer/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;

And you might find some of the &lt;a href="http://bedbugger.com/faqs/legalissues/" rel="nofollow"&gt;tenant organizing information&lt;/a&gt; useful.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know is <a href="http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/17/faq-where-can-i-read-about-bed-bug-lawsuits-can-you-help-me-find-a-lawyer/" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
<p>And you might find some of the <a href="http://bedbugger.com/faqs/legalissues/" rel="nofollow">tenant organizing information</a> useful.</p>
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		<title>By: freaked</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/01/an-honest-pco-a-clever-move/#comment-6360</link>
		<dc:creator>freaked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, maybe you can get readers a discount? 

seriously- have you ever heard of a class action suit against a multi-residence building where the owners have been completely negligent? or has anyone tried small claims for reimbursement of expenses/ lost wages etc.?

apparently one apartment in my building has had 2-3 professional treatments but the landlord wouldn't pay for the last one. when others have complained about bed bugs in their apartment, management has denied that they exist. in mine, however, the landlord called my roommate after he put an old mattress on the street and they said there were "thousands" of bedbugs swarming on it- but they didn't treat the apartment. my roommate didn't think it was bedbugs because he'd never been bitten. it infuriates me that they could've been addressing the problem for a few months and seem to just want to ignore it. 

i realize you're not lawyers here but i'm curious if you know of any precedents- other than the case in new york where the infestation was extremely severe and the tenant withheld rent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, maybe you can get readers a discount? </p>
<p>seriously- have you ever heard of a class action suit against a multi-residence building where the owners have been completely negligent? or has anyone tried small claims for reimbursement of expenses/ lost wages etc.?</p>
<p>apparently one apartment in my building has had 2-3 professional treatments but the landlord wouldn&#8217;t pay for the last one. when others have complained about bed bugs in their apartment, management has denied that they exist. in mine, however, the landlord called my roommate after he put an old mattress on the street and they said there were &#8220;thousands&#8221; of bedbugs swarming on it- but they didn&#8217;t treat the apartment. my roommate didn&#8217;t think it was bedbugs because he&#8217;d never been bitten. it infuriates me that they could&#8217;ve been addressing the problem for a few months and seem to just want to ignore it. </p>
<p>i realize you&#8217;re not lawyers here but i&#8217;m curious if you know of any precedents- other than the case in new york where the infestation was extremely severe and the tenant withheld rent.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/01/an-honest-pco-a-clever-move/#comment-6359</link>
		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great bed idea, Freaked.  I will start recommending that.  It's a bargain at only $3300.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great bed idea, Freaked.  I will start recommending that.  It&#8217;s a bargain at only $3300.</p>
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		<title>By: freaked</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/01/an-honest-pco-a-clever-move/#comment-6358</link>
		<dc:creator>freaked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, well, i decided it would be best to move to water front property in the arctic to try to insure freezing temperatures but it might not happen there either. 
or i found &lt;a href="http://www.mooncostumes.com/item/3609ref=google2&#038;gclid=CPetvP6uI4CFRGCGgodOD5gDQ" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.
:)
i actually wrapped my feet in tape last night but it didn't catch anything. one has to try to maintain a sense of humor, not always easy though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, well, i decided it would be best to move to water front property in the arctic to try to insure freezing temperatures but it might not happen there either.<br />
or i found <a href="http://www.mooncostumes.com/item/3609ref=google2&#038;gclid=CPetvP6uI4CFRGCGgodOD5gDQ" rel="nofollow">this</a>.<br />
 <img src='http://bedbugger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
i actually wrapped my feet in tape last night but it didn&#8217;t catch anything. one has to try to maintain a sense of humor, not always easy though.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's my point, James--you need solid freezing temperatures for weeks on end in order for people to have any confidence with "leaving stuff out".  Temperatures that fluctuate are no good, and I would not rely on them.  So when the OP is hoping to wait until it gets cold enough to kill her bed bugs outside, I say, I would not hold my breath.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s my point, James&#8211;you need solid freezing temperatures for weeks on end in order for people to have any confidence with &#8220;leaving stuff out&#8221;.  Temperatures that fluctuate are no good, and I would not rely on them.  So when the OP is hoping to wait until it gets cold enough to kill her bed bugs outside, I say, I would not hold my breath.  <img src='http://bedbugger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: James Buggles</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/03/01/an-honest-pco-a-clever-move/#comment-6354</link>
		<dc:creator>James Buggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct, but as &lt;a href="http://home.att.net/~ny_climo/NY2007.gif" rel="nofollow"&gt;this chart&lt;/a&gt; shows it never got above 40 in February and temperatures often fell into the teens. That's what I remember.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct, but as <a href="http://home.att.net/~ny_climo/NY2007.gif" rel="nofollow">this chart</a> shows it never got above 40 in February and temperatures often fell into the teens. That&#8217;s what I remember.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sub-zero for weeks on end, without any warming up, though, am I right?  
It was also in the 60s for the first half of the season, more or less through the first week of January...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sub-zero for weeks on end, without any warming up, though, am I right?<br />
It was also in the 60s for the first half of the season, more or less through the first week of January&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Buggles</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Buggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't speak to this issue, but last year was quite cold in New York with many sub-freezing days. NoBugs, you must work at home. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak to this issue, but last year was quite cold in New York with many sub-freezing days. NoBugs, you must work at home. <img src='http://bedbugger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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