Comments on: More on the New York City schools and bed bugs http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/ bed bug news, information, activism, and support Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:03:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: NY Daily News: bed bug epidemic attacks New York City http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-8149 NY Daily News: bed bug epidemic attacks New York City Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:04:36 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-8149 [...] had identified a total of 95 live bed bugs. (The story is gone, so you will have to read about it here.) Though it’s interesting to know that only an additional 7 schools have discovered bed bugs [...] [...] had identified a total of 95 live bed bugs. (The story is gone, so you will have to read about it here.) Though it’s interesting to know that only an additional 7 schools have discovered bed bugs [...]

]]> By: nobugsonme http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1385 nobugsonme Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:19:37 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1385 Just to piggyback on WMSK's comment: ome people charge per visit, some for a warrantied period (say 2 months), and some per hour (!) Just to piggyback on WMSK’s comment: ome people charge per visit, some for a warrantied period (say 2 months), and some per hour (!)

]]> By: wantmyskinback http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1384 wantmyskinback Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:16:17 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1384 regarding the estimate for extermination, when i was seeking a pco initially, i found people in queens and long island who would have done my entire apartment for $275 and would have used similar products as pestaway. so i am not surprised at these quotes. i wouldn't focus on the amounts quoted, but on the fact that the schools are now paying attention, finally! to some extent. regarding the estimate for extermination, when i was seeking a pco initially, i found people in queens and long island who would have done my entire apartment for $275 and would have used similar products as pestaway. so i am not surprised at these quotes. i wouldn’t focus on the amounts quoted, but on the fact that the schools are now paying attention, finally! to some extent.

]]> By: Bugalina http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1388 Bugalina Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:26:56 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1388 When I grew up on the South Side of Chicago, in the 1950's I must have been exposed to all kinds of things that people now think will bring them certain, and immediate death. Our foolishness as an overly paranoid society is going to result in massive bed bug infestations. I grew up eatting pesticide sprayed veggies, and going to schools whose boiler rooms were covered with abestos, and I am certain the walls were painted with lead based paint. I just can't imagine how bed bug infestations in public schools are going to be remedied. I feel sorry for all concerned. When I grew up on the South Side of Chicago, in the 1950’s I must have been exposed to all kinds of things that people now think will bring them certain, and immediate death. Our foolishness as an overly paranoid society is going to result in massive bed bug infestations. I grew up eatting pesticide sprayed veggies, and going to schools whose boiler rooms were covered with abestos, and I am certain the walls were painted with lead based paint. I just can’t imagine how bed bug infestations in public schools are going to be remedied. I feel sorry for all concerned.

]]> By: nobugsonme http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1387 nobugsonme Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:59:18 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1387 JLGK, I appreciate that NYCBoE has to worry about the health effects of pesticides and dusts, and I hope some good entomologists and PCOs are being consulted. I also hope they can legalize safer treatments like Thermapure if this is practical for larger buildings (may not be) is currently illegal in NYC. Perhaps other options can be worked out. However, what you say does not excuse the fact that the city schools are NOT actively educating parents about the presence of bed bugs in the schools in general. District 30, as the article states, did so ONLY because parents at those schools lobbied for this. I am with Councilmember Michael Gianaris who is trying to get all schools where bed bugs have been sighted to warn all parents, not just the family of the child the bug was found "on" (as is the rule, unless individual schools choose to do more). You're right that it may not be a full infesatation in each school, but come on, all 95 bed bugs found in city schools did not just happen to ride in on someone that morning. Even if the kids are bringing them in, chances are they're bringing more in, and not just the one that was found on someone one day. Some of the bugs have got to have set up shop in the schools. And I do recall early last spring, before the bed bug hype was at the state it is now in the media, a network news segment on schools where parents were finding what they believed to be bed bug bites on their kids. Kids should be inspected for bites by their parents, even if their teacher has not caught a bed bug on them. There's no reason to panic, but all parents should be alerted to be aware and look out for this. JLGK, I appreciate that NYCBoE has to worry about the health effects of pesticides and dusts, and I hope some good entomologists and PCOs are being consulted. I also hope they can legalize safer treatments like Thermapure if this is practical for larger buildings (may not be) is currently illegal in NYC. Perhaps other options can be worked out.

However, what you say does not excuse the fact that the city schools are NOT actively educating parents about the presence of bed bugs in the schools in general. District 30, as the article states, did so ONLY because parents at those schools lobbied for this.

I am with Councilmember Michael Gianaris who is trying to get all schools where bed bugs have been sighted to warn all parents, not just the family of the child the bug was found “on” (as is the rule, unless individual schools choose to do more). You’re right that it may not be a full infesatation in each school, but come on, all 95 bed bugs found in city schools did not just happen to ride in on someone that morning. Even if the kids are bringing them in, chances are they’re bringing more in, and not just the one that was found on someone one day. Some of the bugs have got to have set up shop in the schools.

And I do recall early last spring, before the bed bug hype was at the state it is now in the media, a network news segment on schools where parents were finding what they believed to be bed bug bites on their kids. Kids should be inspected for bites by their parents, even if their teacher has not caught a bed bug on them. There’s no reason to panic, but all parents should be alerted to be aware and look out for this.

]]> By: JLGK http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1386 JLGK Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:46:29 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1386 Keep in mind that NYC has a law (Local Law 37) phasing out the use of certain pesticides on city owned and operated properties. The City Council voted to phase out all "Danger" label (Toxicity Category I), all known, likely, and possible carcinogens, and all developmental toxins, especially in schools. This leaves the BOE with few choices. Can't use DE because of asthma rates. And they can't just spray the schools with pesticides, because 1. they have never confirmed an active (reproducing) bed bug infestation and 2. you just can't endanger kids' health like that. Go ahead and do it at home if you choose, but many people see the pesticide as the bigger risk and do not want their children involuntarily exposed. NYC BOE has worked for a long time to reduce pesticide risks in their schools. The city is trying to figure out what to do about bed bugs and how to approach it. Right now there are many legal and ethical issues. Once summer arrives, I think the problem will explode and hopefully there will be protocols in place to help deal with bed bugs in schools. The rest of the country (world?) is waiting to see what NYC will do. Keep in mind that NYC has a law (Local Law 37) phasing out the use of certain pesticides on city owned and operated properties. The City Council voted to phase out all “Danger” label (Toxicity Category I), all known, likely, and possible carcinogens, and all developmental toxins, especially in schools. This leaves the BOE with few choices. Can’t use DE because of asthma rates. And they can’t just spray the schools with pesticides, because 1. they have never confirmed an active (reproducing) bed bug infestation and 2. you just can’t endanger kids’ health like that. Go ahead and do it at home if you choose, but many people see the pesticide as the bigger risk and do not want their children involuntarily exposed. NYC BOE has worked for a long time to reduce pesticide risks in their schools. The city is trying to figure out what to do about bed bugs and how to approach it. Right now there are many legal and ethical issues. Once summer arrives, I think the problem will explode and hopefully there will be protocols in place to help deal with bed bugs in schools. The rest of the country (world?) is waiting to see what NYC will do.

]]> By: buggedinbrooklyn http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1389 buggedinbrooklyn Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:12:17 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1389 ...and the beginings of the invasion begin. (oh, hello all. yes, I'm back. my brief vacation from this site was from my last tramatic event from them nasty bedbugs...I'll send Jess an email as to that story. I'll also briefly post someplace here what I may have to do to regain some sanity.) again, like I've said in the past, the more they want to down play the problem the more the city is alowing the invading bugs to spread. ....and spread they will to each and all homes and schools, and fire houses, police stations, doctor's offices, hospitals, drug stores, shoe stores, luggage stores, food markets, train stations, taxis, restaurants, NYC HOTELS, public toilets, CITY HALL, office buildings, APT buildings, and lets not forget, YOUR HOME too...even if you already killed off your bedbug infestation, you'll get them again from your neighbor or co-worker, or the guy next to you on the train to work. yes, we will get them again, and again, and again, untill the city officials start to get involved with a "real" plan to help get rid of them for good. (and let's not forget that bedbugs are already biting at a movie theater near you) the scorge is comming to everyone's household soon. it's just a matter of time. no one is safe, and the more the public is misinformed from newspapers and city officials , the faster you'll get them in your house...and get them again, for those who already got rid of thier first invasion. start saving money now as the price of treatments will only go up by the time you get your next invasion. oh, and you will get invaded again people...you can't stop them from comming into your home. you know you can't. I know I'm mad. I know I'm pissed off. I also know that crap like this just gets me too upset to even speak. but I can't help but feeling that I need to scream from the highest building in NYC so all can hear me....THE BUGS ARE COMMING!!!! THE BUGS ARE COMMING!!!! woops, sorry, they are already here. buggedinbrooklyn …and the beginings of the invasion begin.

(oh, hello all. yes, I’m back.
my brief vacation from this site was from my last tramatic event from them nasty bedbugs…I’ll send Jess an email as to that story.
I’ll also briefly post someplace here what I may have to do to regain some sanity.)

again, like I’ve said in the past, the more they want to down play the problem the more the city is alowing the invading bugs to spread.
….and spread they will to each and all homes and schools, and fire houses, police stations, doctor’s offices, hospitals, drug stores, shoe stores, luggage stores, food markets, train stations, taxis, restaurants, NYC HOTELS, public toilets, CITY HALL, office buildings, APT buildings, and lets not forget, YOUR HOME too…even if you already killed off your bedbug infestation, you’ll get them again from your neighbor or co-worker, or the guy next to you on the train to work.
yes, we will get them again, and again, and again, untill the city officials start to get involved with a “real” plan to help get rid of them for good.
(and let’s not forget that bedbugs are already biting at a movie theater near you)

the scorge is comming to everyone’s household soon. it’s just a matter of time.
no one is safe, and the more the public is misinformed from newspapers and city officials , the faster you’ll get them in your house…and get them again, for those who already got rid of thier first invasion.

start saving money now as the price of treatments will only go up by the time you get your next invasion. oh, and you will get invaded again people…you can’t stop them from comming into your home. you know you can’t.

I know I’m mad. I know I’m pissed off. I also know that crap like this just gets me too upset to even speak.

but I can’t help but feeling that I need to scream from the highest building in NYC so all can hear me….THE BUGS ARE COMMING!!!! THE BUGS ARE COMMING!!!!

woops, sorry, they are already here.

buggedinbrooklyn

]]> By: parakeets http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1390 parakeets Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:51:43 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1390 Did you notice the price they quoted for extermination ($250-$475) didn't say if it was "per room" and/or "per visit"? All adjacent rooms should be treated (including those rooms in a nearby apartment, if applicable), and the treatment usually has to be done for 3 times, sometimes more. Is anyone in the schools also looking at the bites the kids have? A bedbug doesn't have to be crawling on a student for him to be covered with bedbug bites. A woman on Boston tv had bedbug bites on her face, they were so bad in her housing complex, and was still being told "they didn't have a bedbug infestation." Schools, of all segements of our society, should be commited to the welfare of our children! This is our children we are talking about, not just the school building and grounds. This is not a facilities problem, this is a child abuse problem. I have had bedbugs and I would never want to see any child suffer from them, ever. Protect our children. I am sick and tired of one more news story that begins referring to the nursery rhyme and ends with bedbug "facts" that are a spin on "Don't panic." I want stories to start screaming: "This is a scourge. Just wait until you get them in YOUR house. They are extremely difficult to treat. They can cost you a lot of time and money to treat, and treatment isn't guaranteed. Bedbugs spread very easily. There are no new bedbug treatments forseen on the horizon. You will not be able to sleep because you know they will bite you and your children. You can throw out many of your possessions but still have bedbugs. You will go through some tough times where you might even doubt your sanity. Buying new furniture won't help. Moving to a different apartment won't help. 'Spraying' won't help. You who are about to be infested by bedbugs, we salute you!" Did you notice the price they quoted for extermination ($250-$475) didn’t say if it was “per room” and/or “per visit”? All adjacent rooms should be treated (including those rooms in a nearby apartment, if applicable), and the treatment usually has to be done for 3 times, sometimes more. Is anyone in the schools also looking at the bites the kids have? A bedbug doesn’t have to be crawling on a student for him to be covered with bedbug bites. A woman on Boston tv had bedbug bites on her face, they were so bad in her housing complex, and was still being told “they didn’t have a bedbug infestation.” Schools, of all segements of our society, should be commited to the welfare of our children! This is our children we are talking about, not just the school building and grounds. This is not a facilities problem, this is a child abuse problem. I have had bedbugs and I would never want to see any child suffer from them, ever. Protect our children.

I am sick and tired of one more news story that begins referring to the nursery rhyme and ends with bedbug “facts” that are a spin on “Don’t panic.” I want stories to start screaming: “This is a scourge. Just wait until you get them in YOUR house. They are extremely difficult to treat. They can cost you a lot of time and money to treat, and treatment isn’t guaranteed. Bedbugs spread very easily. There are no new bedbug treatments forseen on the horizon. You will not be able to sleep because you know they will bite you and your children. You can throw out many of your possessions but still have bedbugs. You will go through some tough times where you might even doubt your sanity. Buying new furniture won’t help. Moving to a different apartment won’t help. ‘Spraying’ won’t help. You who are about to be infested by bedbugs, we salute you!”

]]> By: Bugalina http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1391 Bugalina Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:13:11 +0000 http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/15/more-on-the-new-york-city-schools-and-bed-bugs/#comment-1391 Its all about denial...a pass the buck mentality. If they knew the nature of bed bugs they would realize how wrong they are. Children, sitting for long periods of time, employees sitting for long periods of time, are perfect candidates for a bed bug meal...then after eatting ( which they only do once a week on average ) the bugs go find a nice crack or crevice to harbor in...Oh, and what about all those papers stacked up..does anyone remember their kids classrooms !! all that electronic equipment and all those pocketbooks and briefcases, So many harborages, and lots of blood. Take your time Ms. Feinberg because you will be talking about an infestation..just wait until the weather warms up... Its all about denial…a pass the buck mentality. If they knew the nature of bed bugs they would realize how wrong they are. Children, sitting for long periods of time, employees sitting for long periods of time, are perfect candidates for a bed bug meal…then after eatting ( which they only do once a week on average ) the bugs go find a nice crack or crevice to harbor in…Oh, and what about all those papers stacked up..does anyone remember their kids classrooms !! all that electronic equipment and all those pocketbooks and briefcases, So many harborages, and lots of blood. Take your time Ms. Feinberg because you will be talking about an infestation..just wait until the weather warms up…

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