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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/01/24/share-your-tales-of-bed-bug-woe-2/#comment-1009</link>
		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, there's a new "Share your tales" thread which will get more traffic.  &lt;a href="http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/01/ask-your-bed-bug-questions-share-your-tales-of-bed-bug-woe-here/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Please go here to reply instead.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, there&#8217;s a new &#8220;Share your tales&#8221; thread which will get more traffic.  <a href="http://bedbugger.com/2007/02/01/ask-your-bed-bug-questions-share-your-tales-of-bed-bug-woe-here/" rel="nofollow">Please go here to reply instead.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Buggylicious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buggylicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 04:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Jess: just as you were , I am now having trouble at work. It's tough to focus knowing that when I leave the little office oasis of semi bug freedom, I will come home to a baggied up bedroom, sleep on a rock hard encased pillow, with one measley blanket and sheet, that gets washed almost daily. And I perspire from the vinyl mattress (besides being perimenipausal! can't determine what is worse). So I added a layer between the vinyl and the sheet, for some comfort, but as you and the others know, there is no comfort while fighting. I have in my mind about a month to go with the exterminator spraying every 2 to 3 weeks. I dread putting my clothes back, almost as much as I dread wearing them from out of a ziplocked bag. My closet has been caulked, and sprayed, but there is something about the thought of leaving my things dangling on hangers or loose on shelves with out protection. Something seemy and gross about it now that I've had bugs (albeit invisible) i n my bedroom. It's like, when will I be able to feel "free".  How are you doing, emotionally, mentally? I know you are bug free and I'm thrilled, really I 'm so happy for you but...how do you get through your day when you are invited to the movies or need to go in a taxi cab, etc? By the way, I was in Chicago for the first time this past fall, and stayed at THE HARD ROCK (of all places). Still it was fun. BEAUTIFUL city. Saw Jerry Springer walk by! No kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Jess: just as you were , I am now having trouble at work. It&#8217;s tough to focus knowing that when I leave the little office oasis of semi bug freedom, I will come home to a baggied up bedroom, sleep on a rock hard encased pillow, with one measley blanket and sheet, that gets washed almost daily. And I perspire from the vinyl mattress (besides being perimenipausal! can&#8217;t determine what is worse). So I added a layer between the vinyl and the sheet, for some comfort, but as you and the others know, there is no comfort while fighting. I have in my mind about a month to go with the exterminator spraying every 2 to 3 weeks. I dread putting my clothes back, almost as much as I dread wearing them from out of a ziplocked bag. My closet has been caulked, and sprayed, but there is something about the thought of leaving my things dangling on hangers or loose on shelves with out protection. Something seemy and gross about it now that I&#8217;ve had bugs (albeit invisible) i n my bedroom. It&#8217;s like, when will I be able to feel &#8220;free&#8221;.  How are you doing, emotionally, mentally? I know you are bug free and I&#8217;m thrilled, really I &#8216;m so happy for you but&#8230;how do you get through your day when you are invited to the movies or need to go in a taxi cab, etc? By the way, I was in Chicago for the first time this past fall, and stayed at THE HARD ROCK (of all places). Still it was fun. BEAUTIFUL city. Saw Jerry Springer walk by! No kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: Buggylicious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buggylicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 04:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been sleeping in tight-ish, long sleeved shirts and loose pj bottoms. Just trying to keep covered to avoid getting bitten on my shoulders and chest (their favorite places). It's working... I think. I did get some bites on the back of my neck (the only place they had left). But at least it wasn't my face. I'm getting ready for my 4th spraying (3rd one in the last 7 weeks, and 4th one since end of November). I have never seen a bug. And hope I never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been sleeping in tight-ish, long sleeved shirts and loose pj bottoms. Just trying to keep covered to avoid getting bitten on my shoulders and chest (their favorite places). It&#8217;s working&#8230; I think. I did get some bites on the back of my neck (the only place they had left). But at least it wasn&#8217;t my face. I&#8217;m getting ready for my 4th spraying (3rd one in the last 7 weeks, and 4th one since end of November). I have never seen a bug. And hope I never will.</p>
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		<title>By: buggedinbrooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>buggedinbrooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Treehavn,

it takes 10-14 days for the eggs to hatch, and no, the chemicals don't kill the eggs.
so yes, you will have new, as well as a few old bugs running around after the first spraying.
a good PCO should spray every 14 days, I feel that maybe every 10 days is best.

you say you have them also in the toilet area...do you keep dirty laundry in a hamper in there? dirty laundry should be kept in a extra large zip lock bag, till it's washed on hot, and dryed or over an hour. then put into a "clean" zip lock bag.
I have one "dirty" and one "clean" ziplock bag, and just reuse a small amount of clothes.
now your bathroom needs to be treated with spraying, and be carful, they might be in your closets too.

please read the FAQ at the top of the page for a lot of extra help and advice.

I'm sure the bites have gotten less since the first spraying...it takes time as well as more sprayings from your PCO.
I'm at 2 months and I'm not bug free yet.

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UPDATE:
well it's been almost two weeks since I even had time to sleep on my couch to test it for bugs. I've been mostly at my lady's house since the death of my father, so I can't say how bug free my bedroom is as well...but it should be close to bug free. the couch has been an obstical from the begining.
there were days that would go by, that I never got bit. as a result, I felt it getting better by alot.
now I'm not sure.
well last night was the big night to test the couch for bugs. I was expecting to get 1 or 2 new bites as they must be starving from not having a good meal for the past 10-14 days.
let's just say that I didn't even fall asleep, and jumped up just 5 mins after laying down. killing one ultra small one on my hand. turning on the living room light to see if I'm just crazy, or if it was a real bug, I now notice a larger adult cralling across my shirt.
WTF!!!!
them starving bastards can't even wait for me to goto sleap? now I can't sleep at all!!!
so now my finger has a bite, my left arm has a large welt like bite too.
I'm sure that it was far more then just the two bugs having lunch on me last night. yet it only shows how bad it can get when they don't feed.
I will need to just redo my couch again, tomorrow. trying to sleep on the couch might be hard at first, maybe I'll just sit and watch some TV to have them come out.

oh, that larger adult...sprayed Bedlam on him. while he stoped running on the spot, he still twitched a bit. even after 5 mins, he would still twitch if I touched him. as wet with bug spray as could be, he was still alive!!!!
one spray of Kleen Free and he was dead.
no more Bedlam for me, it just don't kill fast enough or good enough...maybe it works on nymphs better. but who sprays things they can't see. if it doesn't kill things I CAN see, then what's the point.
sadly, I'm down to 1 can of D-Force to spray my couch with it.
no need to do more dusting, but I could use more Kleen Free and D-Force.
my dad's arangements wiped me out, and I still borrowed over $8,000
man, talk about bad timming.
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Tree, it gets better even if you have a few set backs.
the trick is to keep fighting, and let time and the chemicals do the dirty work for ya.
good luck and keep asking questions.

buggedinbrooklyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Treehavn,</p>
<p>it takes 10-14 days for the eggs to hatch, and no, the chemicals don&#8217;t kill the eggs.<br />
so yes, you will have new, as well as a few old bugs running around after the first spraying.<br />
a good PCO should spray every 14 days, I feel that maybe every 10 days is best.</p>
<p>you say you have them also in the toilet area&#8230;do you keep dirty laundry in a hamper in there? dirty laundry should be kept in a extra large zip lock bag, till it&#8217;s washed on hot, and dryed or over an hour. then put into a &#8220;clean&#8221; zip lock bag.<br />
I have one &#8220;dirty&#8221; and one &#8220;clean&#8221; ziplock bag, and just reuse a small amount of clothes.<br />
now your bathroom needs to be treated with spraying, and be carful, they might be in your closets too.</p>
<p>please read the FAQ at the top of the page for a lot of extra help and advice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the bites have gotten less since the first spraying&#8230;it takes time as well as more sprayings from your PCO.<br />
I&#8217;m at 2 months and I&#8217;m not bug free yet.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
UPDATE:<br />
well it&#8217;s been almost two weeks since I even had time to sleep on my couch to test it for bugs. I&#8217;ve been mostly at my lady&#8217;s house since the death of my father, so I can&#8217;t say how bug free my bedroom is as well&#8230;but it should be close to bug free. the couch has been an obstical from the begining.<br />
there were days that would go by, that I never got bit. as a result, I felt it getting better by alot.<br />
now I&#8217;m not sure.<br />
well last night was the big night to test the couch for bugs. I was expecting to get 1 or 2 new bites as they must be starving from not having a good meal for the past 10-14 days.<br />
let&#8217;s just say that I didn&#8217;t even fall asleep, and jumped up just 5 mins after laying down. killing one ultra small one on my hand. turning on the living room light to see if I&#8217;m just crazy, or if it was a real bug, I now notice a larger adult cralling across my shirt.<br />
WTF!!!!<br />
them starving bastards can&#8217;t even wait for me to goto sleap? now I can&#8217;t sleep at all!!!<br />
so now my finger has a bite, my left arm has a large welt like bite too.<br />
I&#8217;m sure that it was far more then just the two bugs having lunch on me last night. yet it only shows how bad it can get when they don&#8217;t feed.<br />
I will need to just redo my couch again, tomorrow. trying to sleep on the couch might be hard at first, maybe I&#8217;ll just sit and watch some TV to have them come out.</p>
<p>oh, that larger adult&#8230;sprayed Bedlam on him. while he stoped running on the spot, he still twitched a bit. even after 5 mins, he would still twitch if I touched him. as wet with bug spray as could be, he was still alive!!!!<br />
one spray of Kleen Free and he was dead.<br />
no more Bedlam for me, it just don&#8217;t kill fast enough or good enough&#8230;maybe it works on nymphs better. but who sprays things they can&#8217;t see. if it doesn&#8217;t kill things I CAN see, then what&#8217;s the point.<br />
sadly, I&#8217;m down to 1 can of D-Force to spray my couch with it.<br />
no need to do more dusting, but I could use more Kleen Free and D-Force.<br />
my dad&#8217;s arangements wiped me out, and I still borrowed over $8,000<br />
man, talk about bad timming.<br />
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<p>Tree, it gets better even if you have a few set backs.<br />
the trick is to keep fighting, and let time and the chemicals do the dirty work for ya.<br />
good luck and keep asking questions.</p>
<p>buggedinbrooklyn</p>
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		<title>By: treehavn</title>
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		<dc:creator>treehavn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a query which doesn't appear to be answered elsewhere on the site (it's hard to tell, there's a lot of information on here). Can anyone give me advice about how their bedbug infestations reacting to the PCO treatment? I see it says it takes 12-14 days to begin working on here (our bloke is coming back to respray after 3 weeks, standard procedure for that company) and it's been a week since the first spray. I've found a few full-grown bugs in the bedroom acting pretty groggy (easy to find and kill), but now we seem to have a second batch of younger (I presume) bugs in the toilet area. Any advice/personal experiences you can share on this one? Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a query which doesn&#8217;t appear to be answered elsewhere on the site (it&#8217;s hard to tell, there&#8217;s a lot of information on here). Can anyone give me advice about how their bedbug infestations reacting to the PCO treatment? I see it says it takes 12-14 days to begin working on here (our bloke is coming back to respray after 3 weeks, standard procedure for that company) and it&#8217;s been a week since the first spray. I&#8217;ve found a few full-grown bugs in the bedroom acting pretty groggy (easy to find and kill), but now we seem to have a second batch of younger (I presume) bugs in the toilet area. Any advice/personal experiences you can share on this one? Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Bugalina</title>
		<link>http://bedbugger.com/2007/01/24/share-your-tales-of-bed-bug-woe-2/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>Bugalina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is an entomologist Dini Miller, Virginia Tech.....you can google her. She told me that she has graduate students who work with her and they put their arms into boxes to feed the  bugs....email her and ask her if any of her volunteers have experienced a delayed reaction time.When I spoke to her she was very nice ...Bugalina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is an entomologist Dini Miller, Virginia Tech&#8230;..you can google her. She told me that she has graduate students who work with her and they put their arms into boxes to feed the  bugs&#8230;.email her and ask her if any of her volunteers have experienced a delayed reaction time.When I spoke to her she was very nice &#8230;Bugalina</p>
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		<title>By: S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there, I am responding to Doug's question from the previous thread. He cited sources saying that it can take up to 9 days for "lesions to appear." As in, 9 days after being bitten, your bites could finally surface.

At first pass, this seems unlikely. But I just came back from my second trip somewhere since having bedbugs, and an odd pattern has emerged.

Just so you know, I was insanely cautious when packing for both these trips. My backpack went in the dryer for an hour, my clothes were all freshly cleaned and in ziplocs, my shoes and gadgets were sprayed with Kleen Free, etc.

I was at my parents' house in Florida for 2 weeks over the holidays. On the fourth day, I found a bite on my leg. (Of course, I totally freaked out). But no other bites appeared on that trip, and they haven't noticed anything in their house.

Then, I just came back from New York, staying with my sister for a long weekend. On the fourth day I found a bite on my leg and another (tiny, potential) bite on my hand. I know it's too soon to tell if she has them (ie, if I brought them with me), but regardless, I am wondering if this Day 4 thing is worth exploring.

Might I be reacting to bites four days after they happened? There have been other times when I am almost certain when I was bit (ie, saw a live bug) and the bite appeared almost right away. 

But with these smaller or more questionable bites (ie less itchy, no swelling) I am wondering if they are just showing up to the party really, really late.

Any ideas or similar experience?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, I am responding to Doug&#8217;s question from the previous thread. He cited sources saying that it can take up to 9 days for &#8220;lesions to appear.&#8221; As in, 9 days after being bitten, your bites could finally surface.</p>
<p>At first pass, this seems unlikely. But I just came back from my second trip somewhere since having bedbugs, and an odd pattern has emerged.</p>
<p>Just so you know, I was insanely cautious when packing for both these trips. My backpack went in the dryer for an hour, my clothes were all freshly cleaned and in ziplocs, my shoes and gadgets were sprayed with Kleen Free, etc.</p>
<p>I was at my parents&#8217; house in Florida for 2 weeks over the holidays. On the fourth day, I found a bite on my leg. (Of course, I totally freaked out). But no other bites appeared on that trip, and they haven&#8217;t noticed anything in their house.</p>
<p>Then, I just came back from New York, staying with my sister for a long weekend. On the fourth day I found a bite on my leg and another (tiny, potential) bite on my hand. I know it&#8217;s too soon to tell if she has them (ie, if I brought them with me), but regardless, I am wondering if this Day 4 thing is worth exploring.</p>
<p>Might I be reacting to bites four days after they happened? There have been other times when I am almost certain when I was bit (ie, saw a live bug) and the bite appeared almost right away. </p>
<p>But with these smaller or more questionable bites (ie less itchy, no swelling) I am wondering if they are just showing up to the party really, really late.</p>
<p>Any ideas or similar experience?</p>
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		<title>By: Bugalina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bugalina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very funny...A BB retirement home..I would be the one  with a vacuum hose attached to my wheelchair...like a human ...roomba..I am already worried that someone in the storage facility has put their infested stuff in there and the bugs could crawl into some things like the unwrapped antique chairs or tables I put in their..I am trying to come up with something..but please do supplement your exterminations...for me, I felt more in control..and my PCOs weren't very helpful..have you read the FAQs carefully?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very funny&#8230;A BB retirement home..I would be the one  with a vacuum hose attached to my wheelchair&#8230;like a human &#8230;roomba..I am already worried that someone in the storage facility has put their infested stuff in there and the bugs could crawl into some things like the unwrapped antique chairs or tables I put in their..I am trying to come up with something..but please do supplement your exterminations&#8230;for me, I felt more in control..and my PCOs weren&#8217;t very helpful..have you read the FAQs carefully?</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nightshirt, 
I deleted in the last comment where you were speculating about my name.  I'm just Nobugs.  From your nickname, I assume you want anonymity too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nightshirt,<br />
I deleted in the last comment where you were speculating about my name.  I&#8217;m just Nobugs.  From your nickname, I assume you want anonymity too?</p>
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		<title>By: nightshirt</title>
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		<dc:creator>nightshirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you both.  so kind.  im so happy to hear about your successes.  there is a god!

i am ordering stuff (chemicals) this weekend from home.

bugalina - therefore if you have been here since last april you have until about december to get your stuff out?  i would do a bad at a time, after washing and drying procedure.  also, furniture wise i would spray them at the time intervals a pco does while they are still in storage?  never too soon to start figuring it out.

(deleted)  its funny ispend so much time of these sites and im at work.  cant keep away or stop reading stuff.  takes hours out of my day.  obsessed, to say the least.

i wonder if they have a bb retirement home, like the actors retirement home where you can go b/c exterminating them took all your money? (LOL - a joke).  but they really are a head trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you both.  so kind.  im so happy to hear about your successes.  there is a god!</p>
<p>i am ordering stuff (chemicals) this weekend from home.</p>
<p>bugalina - therefore if you have been here since last april you have until about december to get your stuff out?  i would do a bad at a time, after washing and drying procedure.  also, furniture wise i would spray them at the time intervals a pco does while they are still in storage?  never too soon to start figuring it out.</p>
<p>(deleted)  its funny ispend so much time of these sites and im at work.  cant keep away or stop reading stuff.  takes hours out of my day.  obsessed, to say the least.</p>
<p>i wonder if they have a bb retirement home, like the actors retirement home where you can go b/c exterminating them took all your money? (LOL - a joke).  but they really are a head trip.</p>
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