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	<title>Comments on: Hints from (Bed Bug) Helloise: your bedbug-opinions on hanging Space Bags, Space Bag Totes</title>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except when they come open or wear out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except when they come open or wear out.</p>
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		<title>By: itchyastoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>itchyastoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought a few of the actual space bags. While I wouldn't do the tote (because of the cloth issue previously mentioned) the actual space saver bags themselves don't have any cloth on them. All plastic. :-)  Yeah, and definitely more condusive to long term storage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought a few of the actual space bags. While I wouldn&#8217;t do the tote (because of the cloth issue previously mentioned) the actual space saver bags themselves don&#8217;t have any cloth on them. All plastic. <img src='http://bedbugger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Yeah, and definitely more condusive to long term storage.</p>
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		<title>By: nobugsonme</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobugsonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 05:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hope!

Re: the space bag hanging models:  another Bedbugger uses them and when he has one he wants for daily use, the zips the zipper (which is more secure than a ziploc one--I've never seen them gap or open) but does not suck out the air.  I am going to give this a shot.  I would still  like to know if things come out unwrinkled in the hanging ones, as Space Bag claims.

I wondered that about the space totes too.  But I think I'd rather slip the tote into an XL ziploc to keep the cloth clean, and then it's great to have something small.  (Space is a premium here in NYC.)  But your fears are well-founded.  The ziplocs do not always seal and must be checked.

Personally, the rubbermaid and other totes I've found have not been almost sealed--the edges have gaps, and taping them seems like a hassle to me.  If you can get better ones, that's great, but I don't trust the ones I've seen without a bag inside.  You're right that folding in a box with paper can prevent wrinkles, so that seems like a possiblity with the right box.

Bugalina-- the double zip sounds better. Did you find these next to the XLs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hope!</p>
<p>Re: the space bag hanging models:  another Bedbugger uses them and when he has one he wants for daily use, the zips the zipper (which is more secure than a ziploc one&#8211;I&#8217;ve never seen them gap or open) but does not suck out the air.  I am going to give this a shot.  I would still  like to know if things come out unwrinkled in the hanging ones, as Space Bag claims.</p>
<p>I wondered that about the space totes too.  But I think I&#8217;d rather slip the tote into an XL ziploc to keep the cloth clean, and then it&#8217;s great to have something small.  (Space is a premium here in NYC.)  But your fears are well-founded.  The ziplocs do not always seal and must be checked.</p>
<p>Personally, the rubbermaid and other totes I&#8217;ve found have not been almost sealed&#8211;the edges have gaps, and taping them seems like a hassle to me.  If you can get better ones, that&#8217;s great, but I don&#8217;t trust the ones I&#8217;ve seen without a bag inside.  You&#8217;re right that folding in a box with paper can prevent wrinkles, so that seems like a possiblity with the right box.</p>
<p>Bugalina&#8211; the double zip sounds better. Did you find these next to the XLs?</p>
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		<title>By: hopelessnomo'</title>
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		<dc:creator>hopelessnomo'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 03:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and personally, I wouldn't use those space bag totes--they have cloth outside, so no matter how well sealed the inner plastic bag is... they have potentially infestable cloth right outside!  Close, very close to your stuff when you open to remove something, and not wipeable like plastic.

Now that I've rained on your enthusiasm... sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and personally, I wouldn&#8217;t use those space bag totes&#8211;they have cloth outside, so no matter how well sealed the inner plastic bag is&#8230; they have potentially infestable cloth right outside!  Close, very close to your stuff when you open to remove something, and not wipeable like plastic.</p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;ve rained on your enthusiasm&#8230; sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Bugalina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bugalina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 03:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found the ZIPLOCS in Large..With Double Zippers...these are much better...easier to handle than the XL and the double zipper makes for an easier close...I agree with the above comment about the single zippers ones  being difficult to close....Seems like the plastic bag industry is making new and improved products for "you know what"..deb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found the ZIPLOCS in Large..With Double Zippers&#8230;these are much better&#8230;easier to handle than the XL and the double zipper makes for an easier close&#8230;I agree with the above comment about the single zippers ones  being difficult to close&#8230;.Seems like the plastic bag industry is making new and improved products for &#8220;you know what&#8221;..deb</p>
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		<title>By: hopelessnomo'</title>
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		<dc:creator>hopelessnomo'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 02:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Space bags seem a hassle for everyday use?   

I don't use dry-cleaned clothes but if it were me, I think I'd fold each garment carefully (one or two folds if possible) with a few sheets of tissue paper beneath and/or inside the garment and then put it in a flat plastic bin.  (Perhaps leave in the cleaner's plastic sheathing too.)  My so-far-favorite plastic bins are those Rubbermaid blue roughnecks that have soft plastic lids that mold closely around the bin's edges and the handles have only two small holes that are easily taped. (Target.)  I followed someone else's advice and bought plastic shelves for the bins.  The longer the bin, the less folding I'd imagine; however, not sure if flat, long bins are available.

The tissue underneath the folds of clothes is something you see in stores sometimes and I've packed clothes like that for travelling.   (Is it only in movies that I've seen the old-fashioned cleaner's boxes?)

I'm not sure if I'm explaining this well but folding with tissue is what they do with antique garments and textiles, unless they use muslin instead of tissue...  Probably not necessary to be so concerned about small creases if you buy a steam iron?  Might be easier to give items a quick steam for any small wrinkles than to mash them up in those space bags.  

Oh, and I dislike the XL ziploc bags because ensuring that they're really thoroughly closed is a pain and I've twice found them mysteriously open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Space bags seem a hassle for everyday use?   </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t use dry-cleaned clothes but if it were me, I think I&#8217;d fold each garment carefully (one or two folds if possible) with a few sheets of tissue paper beneath and/or inside the garment and then put it in a flat plastic bin.  (Perhaps leave in the cleaner&#8217;s plastic sheathing too.)  My so-far-favorite plastic bins are those Rubbermaid blue roughnecks that have soft plastic lids that mold closely around the bin&#8217;s edges and the handles have only two small holes that are easily taped. (Target.)  I followed someone else&#8217;s advice and bought plastic shelves for the bins.  The longer the bin, the less folding I&#8217;d imagine; however, not sure if flat, long bins are available.</p>
<p>The tissue underneath the folds of clothes is something you see in stores sometimes and I&#8217;ve packed clothes like that for travelling.   (Is it only in movies that I&#8217;ve seen the old-fashioned cleaner&#8217;s boxes?)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;m explaining this well but folding with tissue is what they do with antique garments and textiles, unless they use muslin instead of tissue&#8230;  Probably not necessary to be so concerned about small creases if you buy a steam iron?  Might be easier to give items a quick steam for any small wrinkles than to mash them up in those space bags.  </p>
<p>Oh, and I dislike the XL ziploc bags because ensuring that they&#8217;re really thoroughly closed is a pain and I&#8217;ve twice found them mysteriously open.</p>
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